Chalky

There is a boot on a look a like label too. Scan of flip which has the credits, same for the side in question too

I think that's a boot...not sure but should have producer and arranger details on the label.

Tim's site totally secure, email him if you have any concerns. And I've already said it is sold out. Softback out in November.

The hardback version has sold out. A soft back one will be available sometime in November. Have to say it looks superb, extremely well compiled, a mine of information.

Temptations did a great version. Marvin & Tammi too

you would need some history of sales to set a value. one freak 1300 sale doesn't make it the value when all before have only been 300 and less

Dean is joined this week for much fun and frolics on the airwaves by Andy Dyson, Pete Crampton and myself for two hours of some great music and banter.

They would have picked it up much cheaper if they had asked on here or Facebook.

Tommy Dodson One Day Love

https://luthervandrossearlyyears.wordpress.com/2011/07/06/luther-1976-cotillion-records/

He did sing lead vocals for Mascara but the group he was in before going solo was Change. He was also in Luther of course

Personally, I thought it was extremely well written. Rather than an out and out tale of the scene it blends excellently with what was happening in real life. I find if you have to critical about something that at least be constructive or as me nan used to say if you can't say owt good shut thee gob 😜 The Detroit book btw was a brilliant piece of literature.

I agree.

Technics all well and good but even second hand ones are not cheap. For home I use Stanton t-92s, half the price but a good solid dependable deck. It isn't as though they are gonna be hammered by incompetent Djs. I've had one deck about 7 years, still in great nick, bought a second deck a couple of years ago as well. But all down to personal preference and of course your budget.

Probably because it isn’t forgotten maybe?

It can be whatever you want it to be 😉

Rita by a country mile, powerhouse northern soul and as good as it gets. Betty version I love, more soulful, but it is a totally different record and not the dancer that Rita is.

Well they must have been having the kids young back then as most were just kids themselves, it was a youth scene then. I can’t recall seeing kids until the returnees returned to the scene late 90s early 00s. I remember one regular place I went, Alfreton leisure centre, they banned the kids as they were getting in the way and were annoying. Kids at venues where alcohol, drugs and other is rife should be a no no for any parent. If you are having kids they should come first, not your night out.

I don’t think anyone is dissuading new blood nor denying them the classics. But there is 100s of post Wigan classics thatbrarely get heard. All most are advocating, well me anyway is some imagination and flare. They are all new to the youngsters and there is far more to this scene than Wigan. So why not embrace it all instead of focusing on a few years only?

I posted a quote once from 1969 from one of the old boys of 1966, dismayed at the newies and the change from a mod, motown, chess, R&B and some then brit pop sound to a type we now know as northern soul. Same arguments in the late 60 as you got in the late 70s (northern, modern funk etc) to the 90s newies vs oldies and so on, all down to what some perceive as unnecessary change. What we got in our burgeoning youth is never as good as we supposedly get wiser. the sense of the unknown and maybe a bit of fear is replaced by a comfort zone and knowing what to expect. We don’t all like change (some relish it) but change doesn’t mean it died. I do understand where younare coming from but think “died” is the wrong analogy. i don’t like what we have now. It should be one of the best times with the very best of everything that went before and more. But what we have in reality is the opposite, an inward, backward looking retro scene, devoid of imagination, flair and characters.

Northern Soul has never died, it has just evolved. It might not be now how we remember it from our youth but but what is. The scene wasn’t the same in 1969 as it was in 1966, it wasn’t the same in 73 as it was in 71 and so on, it grew, it evolved, tastes changed just like fashion, might not be for the better but it didn’t die.

But the format does matter and to say it diesn’t is a bit silly, even baby boy is saying that about the soul scene. For a lot of venues it is actually stressed in promotion that it is original vinyl only.

But that something different will be well known to those who do the upfront side of the scene and if you frequent those venues it won’t be any different. Same for crossover venues which invariably play the bulk of records places like Thorne were featuring. I go to those venues, not the two you mention but the ones I do (not as often as I once did) offer nothing different except the fact they are not classics sounds. Maybe this topic should be merged with tn3bstate of the scene topic.

Oh and no one has private messaged me yet with one boot playing dj or boot promoting promoter? If we wish to improve the scene lets out them and let eveyone know who to avoid?

I think mostvoldies venues are more interested in numbers throug the door. It si only the other aspects of the scene that care first about the music, secondly attendances. We will never have it like we once did, thats the problem for many of us, especially those who want to hear something different. Very few new records, the majority of what there is are from the vaults and on cd which the scene frowns upon. The only thing essentially different is the oldies crowd aren't playing them. The something different crowd including those mentioned are playing very little if nothing new. Still plenty of good nights out there but lets at the very least be honest about what we are going out to listen to.