Chalky

Don't think the Golden World, Ric Tic ones are remotely legit.

Yep Motown did use the label name after purchase, prior to that nothing whatsoever to do with Motown.

I don't think they and much choice as Gordy acquired their contracts as well as the labels didn't he?

I don't think it matters one iota who plays it, if records like this can go mainstream there might be hope for the future. All decent records eventually have their day.

I wouldn't say it was right DJ just that at the time the crowd wasn't probably ready. Andy Dyson played it for quite some time but it never really took off, this was at packed all nighters at the time of Sheridan's, Lifeline, Soultown, the same crowd and more that frequents the venue Tezza is talking about. Like I said it was played by other DJ's and dropped for whatever reason, they moved on, other DJ's and the dancers eventually catch on, tastes change and mature with age

Has it? Who is playing it mainstream? Your right tis a great record no matter who is playing it.

yes but it was played at other venues by at least three DJ's prior to the last four years....can't believe same old argument!!

Happy New Year to all involved and all who use Soul Source. Have a great and soulful 2014.

Are they subsidiaries though? I know Gordy bought them but that was to close the competition. I've never really considered GW, Wingate, Ric Ric, the early Inferno etc anything to do with Motown. They were separate labels run by competitors and the motown musicians moonlighted for them which Gordy didn't like, imposing fines which the likes of Ed Wingate paid.

Same to you mate.

You are getting all too predictable Tezza

It is ridiculous to suggest an artist who has had commercial success should be ignored and I wasn't for a second suggesting such nor am I tainting such artists, far from it. I am suggesting as others have is that all-nighter music is for the rare and obscure not commercially successful records like "I Say A Little Prayer". Yes, I know some have slipped through the net but by and large I wouldn't expect to go to an all-nighter and listen to records that sold in their millions and are heard on commercial radio playlists every day. Something from Aretha from left field that failed to make the grade commercially, that would be deemed inspiring by some although I would guess not by many others as her less commercial stuff has and still is played by the more discerning soul fan/dj. Why a DJ would want to resort to commercial soul is beyond me, there's tons of decent northern out there. No wonder I am fast losing my interest in travelling anywhere. I can go to local club nights hand hear such records so why would I want to travel and spend a fortune expecting to hear the best this scene has to offer and then have to suffer commercial soul records?

https://topshelfoldies.org/tide_edit_records.htm

It would be late(ish) 80's George sold it, he might read this if not can ask. He also had first copy of George Pepp.

First played to my knowledge by George Sharp who sold it to Roger. There are a few other copies around I believe, know of at least two. Always believed Jimmy Williams the same guy just a different take, will have to compare again.

Nice, wouldn't mind a copy if anyone has one reasonable. See plenty of copies but not cheap.

Chances are the floor would be packed regardless, at the peak times at a nighter or soul night whatever is played will get a response if it is classic northern or club soul. It doesn't make it inspired DJing though just because you haven't heard it for sometime, something from totally left field would be inspired.

It's a ridiculous argument really, a messenger bag with 20 Lps is nothing and you could always buy one of the trolley bags. We should have a new years resolution to ban ovo topics, getting ridiculous. The vast majority of us know where we are going, what the DJ's will be playing and really couldn't care less what others think.

Mick was playing the Springers at early Lifelines.

If it is unissued then I and many like me don't have a problem with them, if there is an original format out here then it would be that that would take preference. Again you wouldn't get many booking s playing reissues by the OVO brigade.

I don't know anyone who believes the Stardust release to be legitimate unless they need justification to play it in one of their sets? I doubt you would get many bookings from the OVO brigade playing Stardust 45's.

It was confirmed by Sidney Barnes way back in the earl 2000's, would be 2002/3? when he was at the Dome, someone played it when it was still played as Patti Austin and his ears pricked up and said hey this is the Ad-Libs. It has since been released on a CD "The Ad-Libs The Blue Cat Years" complete with studio chatter whilst laying down the track and another alternate take.

Depends if you just want to buy just what you like or you wanna label collect. If the latter than chooses a label to get started with.

I would have thought if the acetate is New York/Detroit then I wouldn't have though it was the Apollas.

Any clues on the acetate? Where it was recorded etc?