Everything posted by Chalky
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Liz Verdi
Who first played Liz Verdi? Was a bit of an oldie by the 90s.
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Billy Ocean red light, Northern soul?
Ady was playing Carla out long before the anniversary 45 came out. He was doing other nighters as well as 100 Club back then. It would be one of the other 100 Club residents who had it as well if they did. But if not, Ady was definitely playing it out a couple of years at least. Was playing it at Yarmouth weekenders as well if memory serves. Ady always gets some mileage out off records before they are anniversary releases, especially the quality of Carla. Kurt Harris, I had one of the first few to turn up after Ady had been spinning it.
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Out of Sights on Boddie! SORTED!
What do you want to pay? Have one in NM condition, played juts a couple of times.
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Billy Ocean red light, Northern soul?
Kurt Harris was played a long time before you were about. Carla Thomas was first played by Ady, long time before the anniversary 45 came out and if I remember rightly one or two others were given cuts to play long time before it came out on the 45.
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News: The One~Derful Admirations
The One~Derful Admirations View full article
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The One~Derful Admirations
Much of what we know of the group The Admirations is already “out there” but scattered across the internet. I decided to pull together what we know of the group into one article. The groups discography and gaps in their story was discussed at length on Soul Source, instigated in particular by Timmy Leonard (R.I.P.) from Brussels and other members of Soul Source contributing. Robert Pruter was a valuable source as was Secret Stash who had access to One-Derful masters and the associated labels of Mar-V-Lus, Toddlin’ Town. M-Pac, Mida and Halo. In the early 1900s immigrants, mainly Italians settled in an area around Goose Island on the Near North Side of Chicago. It was an industrial area, steel and gas works, low paid and dirty. The area was known as ‘Little Sicily’ due to the large number of Italians but it would also be known as ‘Little Hell’, due to the industry and the crime that blighted its in habitants, not just Italians but Irish and Swedish. It was described as “the most dangerous neighbourhood in the city” by the Chicago Tribune. (1960s Cabrini Green) During the war the Chicago Housing Authority decided to raze ‘Little Hell’ to the ground and pave the way for a new housing development to be named Frances Cabrini Homes after the first American canonized by the Catholic Church, Mother Frances Cabrini. But in the end urban redevelopment provided no cure for the problems. Many of the houses were built with limited budgets leading to poor quality housing and a future lack of investment and maintenance. Overcrowding, dirty streets and dark alleys exacerbated the problems and crime of the projects. The inhabitants, largely a mix of Italians, Irish, African Americans and Puerto Ricans were often the poorest led to a new wave of crime and poverty which the authorities had no answer to, exacerbated by overcrowding, dirty streets and dark alleys. By the 1960s racial segregation overtook and the area. By 1990 the authorities in Chicago, like they did with ‘Little Hell’ decided the answer to the problems would be to raze the area to the ground and start again. Despite the problems of the area, it would produce some highly notable people, in particular musicians. Major Lance, Curtis Mayfield, Jerry Butler & Terry Callier to name a few. (photo courtesy of Robert Pruter) One such group of singers originating from the Cabrini Green Housing Complex in the mid 1960s was The Admirations. Consisting originally of siblings Ralph, Bruce, Kenneth & Yvonne Childs. By 1966 Yvonne would leave the group and Sherman ‘Red’ Myles and Walter Smith would join the three male siblings who remained. The group would be managed by Herbert Butler and Tommie Johnson of The Players vocal group. They were all still in High School. The Admirations debuted on the tiny Paree label with ‘My Admiration for You’, written by Kenneth and Bruce Childs in probably July 1967. The flip however, written and produced by the Otis Hayes and Jimmy Jones, ‘Heaven Is In Your Arms’ is actually the Young Folk. Arthur McThune is on lead ably backed by Miss Madeline. (Strickland), Patrice Suggs and Marlene Lee. All indications would suggest both sides were recorded at the One-Derful’s Tone Recordings studio. Alvin Cash’s Mar-V-Lus release ‘Different Strokes for Different Folks’ would suffer a mis-press and actually play ‘Heaven Is In Your Arms’. (a record initially due to release in July 1967). The fact that this mis-press mix-up happened at the pressing plant is not just your more common template mix-up. This mix-up happened at the lacquer stage as the template used to press that Alvin Cash & the Registers 45 features the correct matrix '3235' (and not the Paree '117 B' one) for their ‘Diff'rent Strokes for Different Folks’. A very first batch of pressings in error indicating a close release date setting the Paree by June 1967 or thereabouts. According to Larry Blasingaine, The Young Folk were supposed to release ‘Heaven Is In Your Arms’ on Mar-V-Lus but as we have already ascertained it ended up on the Alvin Cash mis-press and instead ‘Joey’ was released by the Young Folk with Miss Madeline on lead and the guys singing background. ‘Heaven Is In Your Arms’ would find favour in the 70s on the Northern Soul scene in the UK in the 70s via Deejay ‘Soul Sam’ at Cleethorpes. For their second release the Admirations joined George and Ernie Leaner’s One-Derful label. Launched in 1962 when McKinley Mitchell brought George Leaner the song ‘The Town I Live In’ which became the first release on One-Derful. An A&R and production team was formed with Monk Higgins, Andre Williams & Jimmy Jones at the forefront. The label also had a studio, Tone Recordings and was based in the One-Derful building at 1827 S. Michigan Avenue. Distribution was handled by United Distribution, formed by George & Eddie in 1950 and was located in the same building. The label would do well and sister labels Midas, M-Pac, Mar-V-Lus and Halo were soon added. The Admirations ‘Wait Till I get To Know You’ was released in September 1967 and featured Ralph Childs on lead vocals. It gained a mention in Record World on the 7th October as a Hot New Release. Co-produced by Teddy Bear (real name Theodore McRae) and Eddie Silvers, written by Ralph Childs, Walter Smith and Sherman Myles. Local radio station WVON-AM listed the 45 in its top 20 in December ’67. It received a mention in Record World in the October 7th 1967 edition and in Billboard on the 23rd December of that year. With two presses at least for this release, with differing label designs, again it must have sold reasonably well locally. The groups final outing on One-Derful was in January 1968. ‘All For You’ which was written by Walter Smith, Ralph Childs and Sherman Myles Eddie Silvers no longer involved with the group by this stage, instead it was co-produced by Teddy Bear and Po-Jo. I’m not sure who Po-Jo is? The flip the superb ‘Don’t Leave Me’ was written by written by Bruce and Kenneth Childs and Sherman Myles. This side found huge favour on the UK Northern Soul scene. There was one other release by the group on the tiny Peaches label produced by Eddie Silvers and Gordon Keith (he of Steeltown Records fame). ‘You Left Me’ b/w ‘I Want To Be Free’. Released twice, once as the Aspirations and as the Admirations. The year of release is subject to some debate with the general consensus giving the Aspirations in 1967 and The Admirations release as 1968. There is however a school of thought both were released in 1968 with ‘You Left Me’ with the lead vocals being taken by Kenneth Childs possibly being an answer recording to the One-Derful outing ‘Don’t Leave Me’. Others have the Aspirations and the Admirations releases on Peaches as 1967 before the group signed with One-Derful. Whatever the year, someone had faith in the release. The only outing on the label, it gained two presses as The Aspirations, once with Peaches down the Right of the label and once down the left and then a further press as The Admirations. It did virtually nothing with any of the releases and has remained incredibly rare. The 45 found favour in the UK on the Rare Soul scene in the late ‘70s early ‘80s and now commands a four-figure valuation. Gus Taylor was the bassist for the group and in conversations we had he stated that he wrote ‘I Want To be Free’ but received no credit or any royalties, not that many royalties would have been forthcoming due to lack of sales. All the releases by the Admirations found favour in the UK and now around the world and all are highly collectable. In 1968 the demise of One-Derful also saw the demise of The Admirations. Walter Smith would transfer to Tilden High School on Chicago’s South Side where he would form ‘Walter & The Admerations’ alongside Clifford Frazier (lead), Keith Donaldson (bass), Brad Donaldson (baritone) and David Donaldson (tenor). The group would be managed by Ted Daniels. (Walter & The Admerations) The groups first outing was on Leo Austell and Hillery Johnson’s LA-Cindy label. Entitled ‘Life of Tears b/w Man Oh Man (What Have I Done). The release again did nothing and remined incredibly rare to this day commanding a price well into four figures. ‘Life Of Tears’ would receive turntable action via Pat Brady at the famed Wigan Casino in the UK in the late 70s. The flip would be a huge turntable hit for UK DJ Mark ‘Butch’ Dobson in the mid 1980s. After graduation from High School and with the war in Vietnam still raging the group would have a change of name to the Green Berets with releases on Chicago’s Uni label. Members would later record as Velvet Hammer on the Soozi label with another track finding favour in the UK Soul scene, ‘Happy’. DISCOGRAPHY June 1967 The Admirations - PAREE My Admiration For You b/w Heaven Is In Your Arms (The flip is members of The Young Folk) SEPTEMBER 1967 The Admirations – ONE-DERFUL Wait Till I Get To Know You b/w Instrumental JANUARY 1968 The Admirations - ONE-DERFUL All For You b/w Don’t Leave Me JULY(?) 1967 or 1968 (?) The Aspirations - PEACHES You Left Me b/w I Want To Be Free (PEACHES logo to the RIGHT first then repress with the logo to the LEFT FEBRUARY(?) 1968 The Admirations - PEACHES You Left Me b/w I Want To Be Free Photos courtesy of Robert Pruter. Label scans courtesy of Alan Kitchener, Paul David, Andy Dennison, Keamus Setna and Harry Morgan. Cover photo: The Admirations, taken with Herb Kent, WVON Deejay, wielding the sword on Sherman Myles neck. This was a promotional photo when the group had just released ‘Wait Till I Get to Know You.’
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Dean Anderson's Sound of Soul, Thursday 8pm.
DEAN ANDERSON presents THE SOUND OF SOUL™ **LIVE CHAT EVERY WEEK** 24TH APRIL 2025 8 - 10PM At long last Stuart Raith is back in the studio, just wait for this!!
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Billy Ocean red light, Northern soul?
😂
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Billy Ocean red light, Northern soul?
I wasn’t referring to anything you said mate. I was there at Cleethorpes too mate. If I remember rightly Adam may also have played it one Sunday night.
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Billy Ocean red light, Northern soul?
Some rewriting of history going on here but I’d expect nothing less 🙄
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Cindy field ends of the earth ?
There was a free program, can’t remember the name where you could alter the vocal but leave the backing untouched. This one deffo Tony Middleton messed about with.
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Dean Anderson's Sound of Soul, Thursday 8pm.
Dean Anderson presents The Sound of Soul ™ 17th April 2025 8pm till 10pm Dean and Gez are joined bye two of the busiest in the North West Simon Ingham and Baz Maleady.
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Otis Redding Loving By The Pound Acetate
Don’t think I’ve seen a mirasound acetate that colour, usually blue? As said the felt tip writing isn’t right.
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Otis Redding Loving By The Pound Acetate
Discogs info Mira Sound Recording Studios 145 W. 47th St. New York, NY
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Otis Redding Loving By The Pound Acetate
Label doesn't look right to me, especially round the top
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Discogs! I’m having problems.
Ok here on an iMac
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John Manship Auction results 16th April 2025.
Not sure why there is debate about the best Under My Thumb on a site for soul music, might have been massive in the mid 70s but all the versions are crap.
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News: Northern Connections #39 - Ditalians, K & S Studio & Saxony - Latest Issue From Kenb
Excellent reading as always Ken. I had a conversation with Paul Trefzger some years ago via email, I will see if I can find then and look if they have anything to add.
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Rare Soul Collectors – Help Needed for a Book Project
Just in case some are having trouble here is the list, hope you don't mind Tommy, might make it easier for some? AKIM & THE TEDDY VAV PROD. Santa Claus is a black man Simtone Blue issue ASHFORD, NICK Dead end kids ABC ATLANTIC STARR Stand up A&M BALLARD, HANK How You Gonna Get Respect (When You Haven't Cut Your Process Yet) King BARNUM, H.B. Three rooms with running water Imperial BELL, ARCHIE & THE DRELLS A soldier's prayer Ovide BELL, ARCHIE & THE DRELLS Dog eat dog Ovide BEY, SLOAN Look at your brother Jonah BRICEREST, SONNY I am ashamed of you Azetta BROWN, OTIS & THE DELIGHTS Southside Chicago Ole CORNISH, CHUCK A tribute to Mohammed Ali White cliffs DILLARD, MOSES & TEX TOWN We gotta come together Shout DUHON, JAMES KELLY Pusher man Jude ROBERTA FL. & DONNY HAT. Be Real Black For Me Atlantic FOXX, INEZ & CHARLIE Fellows in Vietnam Dynamo Red issue GREENLEE, BABY DAVE We need love Steelcity GUY, BILLY Hug one another All Platinum HARRELL, VERNE Muhammad Ali Brunswick HAYES, BARNIE Tribute to a black woman Double soul HOLCOLM, MANUEL & HIS BAND This generation pt. 1 Diamond Jim IMPRESSIONS, THE Keep on pushing ABC JACKSON, JIM Welcome me home Sandbag KNIGHT BROTHERS Ghetto Joe Mercury THOMAS, LEON Love each other Flying Dutchman McDANIELS, EUGENE Tell me Mr. President Atlantic MIGHTY HANNIBAL Hymn No. 5 Shurfine MOONLIGHTERS, THE Right on brother Lamp NASH, JOHNNY Deep In The Heart Of HarlemGroove NU PAGE When the brothers come marching home Mowest PAUL, BILLY People power PIR RAWLS, LOU The politician MGM ROGERS, WILLIE Wake up Ronn Ronn issue SIMONE, NINA Why? (the king of love is dead) RCA SLY & THE FAMILY STONE Underdog Epic Yellow issue STARR, EDWIN Stop the war now Gordy Big font SYREETA Black maybe MoWest TAYLOR, BOBBY Queen of the ghetto Tommy THOMAS, TIMMY Cold, cold people Glades TRIPLETT TWINS, THE Black sensuous girl Jay Pee VAN DYKES, THE No man is a Island Mala HUE label JACKSON, HAROLD & JACK. BRO The freedom riders Edsel BRIMMER, CHARLES Black is beautiful Broadmoor HEAT, AUGUST He's A Black Man P1 Tarx HARLEM CHILDREN'S CHORUS Black Christmas Commonwealth COVAY, DON Rumble in the jungle Mercury BLACK BLOOD I Gotta Change My Name Black Blood ANDERSON, KIP Letter From My Darling Excello MEL AND TIM Mail Call Time Bamboo REVEALERS, THE They Had A Party At The Watergate Paramount GRANNUM, AL Why Is It? A & G Yellow issueROBINSON, SYLVIA Have You Had Any Lately? Stang JOYCELYN Soldier In Saigon Part One Knite Life ARMOUR, LAURENCE Throw The Guns In The RiverKarmoura POETS, THE Soul Brothers Holiday Veep Yellow issue BARNUM, H. B. I'm A Man Capitol CHARLES, SONNY Welfare Man A&M EMOTIONS, THE Black Christmas Volt BEVEL, CHARLES Black Santa Claus A&M EBONYS, THE Nation Time PIR CORNISH, CHUCK Blue Eye Brother And Soul Get Along (Part I) SSS BENTON, BROOK Soul Santa Cotillion MONITORS, THE Step By Step (Hand In Hand) Soul LEE, TOMMY & THE AUTOGRA Wake Up Young People Tri-spade SIDNEY, COUNT & HIS DUKES Soul Christmas Goldband WHATNAUTS, THE Message From A Black Man A&I STYLISTICS, THE Let the junkie bust the pusher Avco (First press,bef. dist. By All Plat) BROWN, JAMES Soul Power King WONDER, STEVIE You haven't done nothing Tamla
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Dean Anderson's Sound of Soul, Thursday 8pm.
Dean Anderson presents The Sound of Soul 10th April 2025 8pm until 10pm **LIVE CHAT EVERY WEEK** TONITE! IN THE STUDIO! Skegness soulful entrepreneur and showman David Raistrick
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SOUL LIBERATION 13th Anniv SOUL SAM
Looking forward to sharing the decks with Sam once again. It has been a good few years, Lifeline I think the last time. Some quality 60s and 70s, maybe the odd 80s track too, can’t wait.
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This is NS and they don’t even know it
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Parisians/traditions-Twinkle Little Star?
Yes I realise that too. I presume the backing vocals and bongos are easy enough to add to existing tapes? Guess we will never know for sure what really happened.
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Parisians/traditions-Twinkle Little Star?
I’ve not listened that closely on a decent system. There could be more than one take on the tapes as well. If it was re-recorded then they must have had some faith in the group to take them from Miami to Nashville.
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Johnny Earl - Motown track from the vaults
Should be able to copy the link at Ace.. https://www.acerecords.co.uk/docs/CDTOP_531/CDTOP_531-1-5.mp3