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  1. Neckender posted an article in Articles
    For those avid collectors of rare soul vinyl, the mail order list of SoulBowl (proprietor, John Anderson) should have a special place in their heart, because for the last 50 years it has been at the forefront of vinyl digging for those rare soul imports that we hold so deep in our hearts. Soul Bowl is to present a connoisseurs room at this forthcoming Prestatyn weekender and has lined up some of it's previous primary customers, including Colin Curtis, Richard Searling, Soul Sam etc. to play something engaging. To promote this room and also shed a little light on the Soul Bowl set up, I've managed to get a small introduction from John and then a few words about my experience as a collector, including finding records on the weekly list, or in person at the warehouse. For those who have never had the fortuity to have experienced Soul Bowl's mail order business, or for those who did, but would like a reminder of what went on in those early years of the rare soul scene, I've also posted up some old sales lists. I hope you find them as interesting and amazing as I did JA intro: Mark has asked me to write a few words about my 48 years or so of selling records.my first deal came about from my time trawling shops on glasgow. There was a camera shop that had tons of 50’s/60’s uk singles they had bought as a load. I was in there one day and they saidwe got a lot more in a room behind a false wall in the basement. There were four titles in quantity–miracles on fontana/both marvelettes on fontana/eddie holland-jamie. I bought them for 3 old pence and sold them to reddinton’s records in birmingham for 6 old pence-i was on my way! My second deal was a load of 10,000-us singles i bought blind-took out the soul and managed to offload the rest to an office supply shop in glasgow. My third bigger deal was going to the states and i hand picked 60,000-soul singles and shipped back sea freight and when my mum and dad saw the truck turning up at our second floor council house they thought the floor would collapse with all the weight! I didn’t have these records for long,word got out and that was the start of our time in the record business proper. I’ve been on the road in the states most years for 4 or 5 months so after close to 50 years you forget a lot of the deals you made.the only year we added up the invoices was 1977 and that year we shipped in one million singles.our major problem was space in king’slynn we had 4 places in town. An old church, a barn and a huge double garage, but we were always running out of places to put the next load. The great thing about those days was we learnt as we went along and there were no price guides which really mean nothing as prices change all the time, also collectors had very little money and we would end up with piles of bounced cheques! All very different from today. Mark has also asked me to mention a couple of record deals we made back in the day. two that come to mind are the time i went to cincinnati to buy a load of 200,000 singles. They were in the basement of a one stop that had closed down–ceiling to floor-they were mainly promo copies.the one stop would mail out a few and then through the rest in the basement from the late 50’s to ‘67. I couldn’t really see much as there was no power-so it was a gamble and we made the deal.i had them shipped but had no idea what we had until the truck’s turned up in king’s lynn. I opened the first box and inside were 50 copies of the invitations-ski-ing in the snow. We ended up with thousands of obscure mid west/west coast soul records as well as demos on major labels. I could write pages about these deals but the second one i’ll mention was in the uk. I used to swap loads with a friend of mine paul who ran stalls on bradford market.he had picked up a load from me and a few weeks later he called me up and said we’ve just got in a big load from the west coast. I went there with gary cape––it was mainly west coast labels in quantity–mirwood/pzazz/highland etc etc––they came from record merchandisers in los angeles. I just remembered that when i still lived in scotland i got the train down to bradford and went to paul’s house to look at the records in his garage––there was 50 copies of the salvadors on wise world in there–wish i had them today!!!!! From a collectors perspective: In the early 7ts I was already a devoted follower of Northern Soul, even at the tender age of 14yrs. The Torch allnighter was the place to go and my older brother, Ant, was a regular attendee. He had a reasonable collection of imports and gave me the go-ahead to play them when I wanted to. Becoming more interested in vinyl I would peruse a weekly list that my brother was receiving; the list was called Groove City and was basically a couple of A4 pages with about 200 records for sale, mainly Ric Tic, Motown and various Detroit labels on offer. Trying to remember what was on those lists 43 yrs ago is a real struggle, but i do remember that a regular record that you could buy, was Sam Ward 'sister lee' Groove City for 75p. This it turned out was the prototype soul list to SoulBowl. Eventually, i got signed up to the SoulBowl list in my own name and became a regular buyer, an addiction to this day that ive never been able to restrain. The mail order business was essentially run by husband and wife team, John and Marissa Anderson, with support from a Northern Soul dj, Poke. One of the real attractions of the list was the Pound Special page. Since there wasn't a great deal of money in a young person's pocket at that time, being able to buy a decent original Northern 45 for a Quid was just what us budding collectors needed. Most weeks, another excellent section of the list contained a record that had been hitherto 'big' at the major allnighters, which had now been discovered in some quantity and was now for sale at a fraction of the price it had been previously. This would usually be the talking point for many of the collectors in the Wigan record bar, or at our local 'soul pub' the Antelope. See if you can spot any of these records on the sample lists at the end of this article. Obviously, most of the records on the weekly list were rarities and therefore you needed to phone as early as possible to reserve. For most of us, that meant running down to the phone box at the end of the street and dialing the ten digit number, usually getting the engaged tone for at least the first twenty tries. When you finally got through, you heard the dulcet, Scottish inaugural greeting, 'SoulBowl' Pushing your coins into the phone box, hoping and praying that your most wanted records were still available, you were able to put in your order. Being able to secure any records from your wish list would set the tone for that day and sometimes for days after. I remember one day in particular, when i was able to reserve five top notch sounds and i ran back up the street, punching the air like I'd just scored in the cup final. As the years passed and my interest in the the obscure 45 became more intense, I began to send Soul Bowl my wants list, or casually ask about an particular record during a phone order. Eventually, John said those magic words: why don't you come down to the warehouse and have a look around for yourself. This was music to my ears and for the next few days I prepared for the visit, putting together my list of things to look for and simultaneously finding as much cash that i could muster. The visit was a record collectors dream, over a million soul 45s in one barn, racked out in label/alphabetical order. FInding so many great records in one place and at great prices. It was so good that i decided to stay for an extra day and make a weekend of it. Records that i bought included Montclairs hey you, Bob & Fred Ill be on my way, revells trent town, sonatas hotline, webs dynamic, paul sindab, voltaires bacone, willie mason kalama, four andantes modo, wendell watts kiss a good thing etc. etc. I came away with over 200 hand-picked records and i remember John saying to me, 'im glad you came, as nobody else wants these kind of records' At that period of the scene, he was right; there wasn't really many collectors looking for obscurities. On consecutive visits to the warehouse, like many of the djs that ive talked to who took trips there, John had a box of specially selected 45s just for my consideration. Inside those boxes there was always something significantly good, unknown and rare. Some of the titles that came from these visits were: Saints Wigwam, Sensations demanding man, Poets J2, George Pepp, Appointments Delite, Love is alright acetate, Hank Hodge eye for an eye. On one occasion i asked John about a record by the Imperial Cs on Phil la Soul, which has appeared on the main sales list the week before; "what's it like", I asked? John's reply was, "give it a play", as it didn't sell and was still in the sales box. Price was £8 and the rest is history! Countless other collectors will have similar memories to these that I've described and it would be great to hear about them too. It's hard to describe the impact Soul Bowl has had on the world of Soul collecting, but it is immense. I haven't even touched upon the stories of their UK wholesale operation, or their substantial sales overseas (including the legendary Japanese lists) and maybe someone else can expand upon these anecdotes following this article. For me, Soul Bowl was the lodestar in discovering the beauty and diversity of American Soul music. click thumbnails for full view
  2. You can ask Billy Jackson yourself, as i know a few people on here have his details. I got the intrumental of the Walter Wilson from Billy sometime in the early 9ts. That is a Virtue 7inch.
  3. Completely different production and even more important doesn't have the organ etc. that makes the Green Grunchons it's poor relative.
  4. After browsing this topic, it would seem that some of those lists of 9ts tunes are chronologically inacurate eg.bobby hutton-come see, delettes, keni lewis-whats her name, eddie wilson-toast, majorie black-sue, ravennettes, jimmy frazier, marvin gaye-love starved, troy dodds, tommy frontera,rhonda davis, joseph moore, timmie williams, terry callier, fortson & scott, blue jays, etc. (i didn't bother to include any records listed from the strange ramblings of sooty) I know the original thread stated 'records that reminded him of the 9ts' But personally, these records don't remind me of the 9ts; they remind me of the time when they were first played, either in the 7ts or 8ts. It's a bit like someone coming onto the scene in the 8ts and hearing for the first time, tony clarke's landslide and then saying a decade or so later, that it reminded him of the 8ts. Most records that have been heard on the scene over the last 50 years have a chronological occasion when they were first played/become popular and the people at those 'newies events' bear whitness to those new discoveries and carry that information with them for future reference.
  5. Well remembered steve. Sales tape went down to ady C and he got it from me. Actually ady said that he wanted it for his collection and then played it as a c/u later. I was amazed to see it go big (actually massive) Not my cup of tea though. Good to see ady turn it into a monster.
  6. This 45 came out twice with different flips. Today, most folk want the side 'earthquake' an R&B sound.
  7. No not a VIP unreleased acetate, but a Gordy unreleased acetate. The label information has a G and then a number. I assume it was done at the same time as her other Gordy releases; "here you come" and "back in my loving arms" Has the date on the label as JUL 9th, 64. and pressed at RCA custom records.
  8. Joel, just a better, clear sounding version (as i remember it)
  9. Deep soul classic, written by donald height and joe webb, collected by the Japanese. Appeared on many Japanese wants lists during the 8ts.
  10. Yes, chalky is correct. I bought it in the late 8ts. It has a decent Northen flipside too. Nothing wrong with the 45; almost mint. Both sides are written by William Powell and arranged by Miles Grayson. Tim B thought it was unreleased and was playing a dub of it about 8 yrs ago. Ady should pay more attention, as ive played it at the 100 club (recently too) Judging by this thread and many others, the Northern Scene is one giant game of Chinese Whispers!
  11. dave, a write-up that Frank Elson would be proud of. Great stuff !!
  12. FOR SALE ON BEHALF OF KEB DARGE: JOHN LEACH-PUT THAT WOMAN DOWN-LAWN DJ COPY £400 (OR NEAREST OFFER) Looks in exc. shape, but has some background noise. Sound clip available. cheers, mark
  13. I found a Virtue acetate of the peanut duck some years back, so there are at least two copies now.
  14. Robb, the 'we gotta go' Autographs 718 is a Jan-Cris publication. Arranged and written by George Clements; produced by Herman Griffith. The inst. side is classed as Northern; used to get some action in the clubs here during the 7ts.
  15. Only used to be a cheapie because for years the masses weren't interested in records like this: hense it had a low value. It is actually quite hard to find and because more collectors today are looking for this type of record the price now reflects is rarity.
  16. Neckender replied to a post in a topic in Look At Your Box
    Actually, the first person to find this was tim ashibende, as he was the first to vist rosemary mccoy and buy records. He played the 'switch around' while he was there and firstly, didn't consider it was Northern and secondly, didn't think it was up to scratch. I think I have to concur with him on that.
  17. Previously released as Cresa Watson-salvation-Charay 90.
  18. The Rita Lee is a re-issue done in the 7ts, after Brad gave the label owner some advice about which songs to press up for Northern demand.
  19. This record was a Tim Ashibende discovery around 1981 or 1982. He sold it to Gary Rushbrooke who covered it up and became a big favourite within a year. Couldn't see it getting any attention during the 7ts, as it was too slow and definitely not a Mecca play.
  20. Here's a nice story concerning the Phonetics 45 on Trudel. Circa 1981, myself and tim ashibende arrived back from a US record trip with a bunch of 45s, which included a couple of hundred unknowns (unknown to us, that is) In there was a copy of the phonetics "dont love get you down" Not a bad record we thought, but not a record that was going to shake the Northen soul scene as it was then. Over the next couple of years we picked up a few other copies of that title and tried to flog them to various collectors. Dean Anderson was one such collector who showed an interest in a copy and I duly took it to various allniters where Dean frequented, hoping that he would relieve me of the 45. On various occasions, (luckily for me, as you will later understand) I was not able to get Dean to part with his money. One day later as I was sorting through the box of unknowns, I noticed that the copy that had been destined for Dean had a different flip side to the copy that I had kept previously. It had the title "just a boys dream" and had the release number, Trudel 1007/1008. Upon playing it and to my great surprise, I found that it was Richard S's old eddie holman c/u. I couldn't believe my luck and also couldn't wait to tell Dean what he had missed out on. Dean took the information in his stride and wished me well with the record. One thing it did remind me to do and that's always check out the flip side of every record that I buy.
  21. Frank, the appointments-steppin closer-dart is a much better recording than the red coach release. Backing track is much more powerful; definitely the one get. Anyone else with me on this proposition?
  22. Wouldn't have been played before the Stafford era; doesn't have the right sound that we were looking for. I remember going up to Scotland and hearing Colin playing it, covered up! I was surprised that it was covered up because it was a well-known record in collectors circles during the 7ts. Colin got a good reaction from the dancers up there when he played it, whereas I got an almost empty dance floor when I played the likes of mello souls, tommy ridgley, appointments, diane lewis, jesse davis etc.

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