Mick Holdsworth

The ones I could see are fake labels stuck over the plain white boot (presumably) - They'e mostly from the same "if it suits your needs" seller

If you mean the Multi-coloured vinyl copy, it hasn't been booted (at least not in the seventies or eighties) although as with any record, you have to be careful of Ink Jet / colour copy labels gobbed onto an outta site or whatever

Label "looks"the same, but, as said above, the 64784 matrix and the much smaller runout with is orig. ORIG And the Boot has the Aug 76 martix of 100272 with much bigger runout BOOT Also the left / bottom line runs out too short on the boot Cheers Mick

Just from the image, the extra large runout gives it away. But the delta dates it to Aug 76

Boot - the delta 100272 (see second question) puts it Aug 1976 - Even without that, the large runout gives it away. Cheers Mick Edit ... Sorry, didn't realise there were two threads running on this, and question had been answered on that thread

Anyone got a sound file of the Cressa Watson version ?

This one's on YouTube ... Cheers Mick

Can't find a scan (just his other song, "Everytime"), but here is a full sound file ... https://www.wefunkradio.com/song/play/664_ag/buddy+mcknight/keep+it+from+me If you want the mp3, just let me know Cheers Mick

It was CK who did it - I haven't a clue who the vocalist was, but assumed it was a local singer Chris got in. much like the Tina Lewis a few years later. When I first heard it I asked him about it, and he said, toungue in cheek, it was Ric Tic 113. So bearing that in mind, I don't think there was any doubt he'd just knocked it up. I seem to remember this being around a bit before the Ric Tic revue of '83, but the release on Slow Fizz was much later, about '86 or so. Cheers Mick

That is the right order, but there was an awful lot of "crossovers" where both Solid Red and Red with writing alternated and were both used for many single releases. There was a similar mixed changeover from Red with writing and Grey. If you look at 45cat site / Us Columbia and jump to page 110 and just clicking through the pages you'll see the labels gradually changing. https://www.45cat.com/label/columbia-us/110 The last grey label I could find was on page 135 https://www.45cat.com/label/columbia-us/135 Cheers Mick

White for the Demo, and Red for the Issue (Blue & Purple (Or Pink) are 70's boots)

Sorry, just checked, The Collectibles has the long intro AND the sax break, with Synthesized background, and times in at 4:09 The Long into WITHOUT Sax is on both Red Vinyl Orig and Yesteryear Reiss - these time in at 3:43 (as printed on Red Vinyl label) (The labels on the Yesteryear and Collectibles are presumably typos, just carried forward from a standard version.) Both of the other variations are on different LPs (have ammended orig post) Cheers Mick

This is the Original long intro version, exactly the same as Red vinyl US, but on US Motown Yesteryear ... https://motownsound.co.uk/search/Stoned_Love There's also a Long Intro version with a light synthesizer backgound over the song, although this also has an extra Sax break (US Collectibles 45) ... and also a version without the Long intro but with a Sax break in middle .... and also a version with Long intro and No Sax (again with synthesizer) both on LPs. That covers all 4 possible variations. Cheers Mick

Still need both "Boston" & "Detroit" Cheers

It most certainly is. Thanks for that. Now then , where do I get one ?

The other side of this boot is "Shop Around" which was originally on DB 7340 They have just transposed the 3 and 4, so as it appears to be correct font (and just carried it through to the "Stop" side)

I think so, there's a couple on Discogs at the moment for £250 (both M / M- issues V3). All the black copies I could see are either described as V1 or undefined, and all the white ones are either V3 or undefined, so issues of probably V3 probably are harder to find, hence the £250 The V4 is listed as a demo in Discogs, with handclapping, but that distinction is unclear, so that could be either version, and we now know from Kegsey is that his V2 is the same as V3. Yep, you're right of course, the term "Mix" should be read as Version, or Take (I've reverted to V )

Does anyone know if The Groove - Love It's Getting Better, was ever issued on 20th Century (ie a black commercial label). I've only ever seen 20th Century demos and the later Wand promos and releases. Cheers Mick

So it would appear that your "2" and V3 are the same. I also can't really tell the difference in handclaps either. One thing I have just noticed that in Version 1 at about 1:30 there is a line "Yes I Did, Yes, I Did". In version 3 it is just "Yes I Did". There are other subtle differences, but they're hard to discribe. To me at least the overall mix of Version 1 is a little softer than 3, which may be why the handclaps don't seem as prominent. Of couse this may be down to the way each YouTube track was recorded, rather than an inherrent difference in the mastered recordings. Would be interested to get to the bottom of it. Hope John does have some info on this.

Ok, so that theory is down the pan. Just for reference, as far as I can make out, these are the two versions. This is the version WITHOUT the extra vocals - This is version 1 This is version with vocals right at the beginning - Version 3

From the listings above, I see that 3 is an issue and 4 is a demo, but are they the same Mix ? I wonder if it's that 1 and 2 are the same as each other, just issue / demo, and the alternate version appears as both 3 and 4, again just issue / demo ? Mix 1 appears to be an issue, so what is your "2" copy. is it a demo ?

There is also reference to a '4' version too (Just looked at listings on Discogs and there are 3 copies, Versions 1, 3 and 4. Heres what the sellers say ... Lou Courtney - I Watched You Slowly Slip Away / I'll Cry If I Want To (7") Media Condition: Very Good Plus (VG+) Sleeve Condition: Very Good Plus (VG+) nice demo with 35055-4 in the dead wax with clapping in the background.Clean labels on both sides few light marks on the vinyl dont effect sound Lou Courtney - I Watched You Slowly Slip Away / I'll Cry If I Want To (7") Media Condition: Near Mint (NM or M-) Sleeve Condition: Generic 1ST MIX PHW-35055-1. Actual item for sale scan here. https://www.avidvinyl.com/pic/23062010_3248.JPG Lou Courtney - I Watched You Slowly Slip Away / I'll Cry If I Want To (7") Media Condition: Near Mint (NM or M-) Sleeve Condition: Generic Mix 35055 - 3 Lou Courtney vocal on intro + added hand claps + stronger sax break. Cheers Mick

Thanks Lars, that's probably the case with me. I never went as far as entering an amount - Will test it out next time I see one. Cheers Mick

John, I don't remember the pressing you refer to, but have a "supposedly" different take (just pm'd you)

I've noticed a few time recently, looking at US listings which use this Global shipping, that some items tell you there is £0.00 extra customs to pay, even when the item is at $70 / $80 / $90. I was watching one a few days back (unfortunately I can't remember what it was) and up until the end it was showing zero customs, but when the item finished at just over $100, the customs was shown. Is it a glitch in the system where the excess is only shown AFTER the auction ends, or is it genuinely up to $100 customs free (unlikely). Or am I missing something. Cheers Mick