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Chuck Cockerham - A Brief Interview

Chuck Cockerham Interview (albeit A Very Brief One).

After following up on a few leads I finally got to speak with the man behind the voice of one of the most iconic crossover records of all time, “Have I Got A Right” released on the Bell records subsidiary label Mala, the one and only Mr Chuck Cockerham. A very nice guy who agreed to briefly answer one or two of the questions that I wished to put to him. He is reputedly working with another party regarding the compiling of memoirs for a future publication and therefore only agreed to offer up limited information to some of my questions the results of which are as follows:

Charles Harold Cockerham pronounced as ‘Cockeram’ with a silent ‘H’ was born in Durham, North Carolina during 1945 and being later raised in the city of Greensboro, NC. He initially began singing in his School choir which was instrumental in him forming his own Doowop group by the name of the Objectives during the early 1960’s. From 1963 to 1965 they worked regularly, culminating in the release of their solitary 45 single on Stan Lewis’s Jewel label, “Oh My Love (Come Back To Me)/Love Went Away” (Jewel 751). The Objectives later broke up following the death of Chuck’s best friend and the group’s first tenor, at this point Chuck temporarily retired from performing but later made a brief return when starting a rock group, a scenario which Chuck chose not to divulge any further information upon. 

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In 1969 Chuck was invited to join the vocal group Bill Pinkney And The Original Drifters, the group he was to perform and record with for the rest of his performing career.

 

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Also in 1969 and just prior to joining the Original Drifters Chuck was to record his now legendary solitary solo, Mala 45. Through a chance meeting with Fred Tanner and his fellow producer Johnny Coffman, Chuck recorded the now high desirable and respected Fred Tanner penned “Have I Got A Right” backed with Hey There”. Chuck remembers that the song did receive some airplay throughout the Carolina’s upon it’s release, albeit somewhat limited. “Have I Got A Right/Hey There” was recorded at one off studio session with Chuck never ever performing the songs again.

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Now enjoying life as a retired performing artist, Chuck is fully aware of the huge popularity and price tag Interviewof his Mala 45 throughout the UK and indeed the rest of the world’s rare soul collector’s scene. With regards to the later, group version by The Nomads, Chuck is also aware of that but was not involved with it in any shape or form as has sometimes been reputedly mentioned. So there you have it, the sum total of what Mr Chuck Cockerham was prepare to divulge to me during our brief conversation.

Words By David Welding

With Acknowledgements to: Charles Cockerham.

 

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Circa 1986, I swapped my copy of Chuck Cockerham on Mala for 2 cassette tapes of unissued Motown and some Northern tracks ( value about £2) with Dave Withers on an indoor market stall ( Afleck's Palace) Manchester.

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Hi Chalky, nice post.

The Photo for the group. It's the same as on discogs BUT now has names on it.

Do you know where those names came from? Did Chuck 'assign' them to the Photo during the interview? or did they come from somewhere else.? 

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4 hours ago, Owd Codger said:

Circa 1986, I swapped my copy of Chuck Cockerham on Mala for 2 cassette tapes of unissued Motown and some Northern tracks ( value about £2) with Dave Withers on an indoor market stall ( Alfeck's Palace) Manchester.

Dave never mentioned that to me.

I found a copy in a shop in Asheville N.C. sometime in late 80's or early 90's which I sold to Richard Searling for £8. Sounded like something he could play at Parkers.

Me and Alex Jones went back to Asheville shop maybe mid 90's as there were a lot of albums in there and we figured we may get a deal for buying a lot [which we did],

45s on show hadn't really changed but as we were pulling out albums I leaned against what I thought was a wall and fell into a room full of 60's promos. $3 each and tons of good stuff.

 

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1 hour ago, Modernsoulsucks said:

Dave never mentioned that to me.

Maybe not, probably my trade was unimportant to him, but my connection to this 45 dates from around 1970-72 so it was very personal  item to me and I know it's history  (i.e.  years loving the record but unable to persuade my friend to swap, and years later getting possession of his copy) and what I eventually did with it (Very Reluctantly too). This was before the record gained recognition I presume.......as to when the NS scene discovered it I do not know, but my friend ( a member of this web site) had it around 1970-74 period.

I can tell you that , when trading it, I asked Dave Withers did he know it , and suggested to him to play it there and then.. He replied that he didn't, and it was obvious after a few bars, he approved. He was either a magnificent poker player, or he genuinely didn't know it. There would probably be no reason for him to remember it....to me , it is imprinted on my memory.

I was sad to let it go but at the time, as a lapsed Motown collector, was thrilled to get this tape of Motown unissued ( Suspicion, Love starved heart, Keep Steppin;, After the rain etc ).

 

 

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Can't exactly remember when I traded it, but  somewhere around1986-87  would probably cover it I think.

From first hearing it, and occasionally borrowing it, in about 1971-72, I eventually got it in a batch of 45s my friend sold me...that would be around 1985/6......

So, after loving the record, and wanting it for years....I traded it within months . 

I guess we've all got similar tales

 

 

 

 

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Just been speaking to my friend who seems to think he got the Chuck Cockerham in a Soul Pack from Global Records on Chepstow Street, Manchester. 

He also recalls getting Collette Kelly "City of Fools" in a pack from there too.

 

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4 minutes ago, Owd Codger said:

Just been speaking to my friend who seems to think he got the Chuck Cockerham in a Soul Pack from Global Records on Chepstow Street, Manchester. 

He also recalls getting Collette Kelly "City of Fools" in a pack from there too.

 

Chuck Cockerham would have never gone in a Soul Pack when I was at Global. One-offs were never put in packs, Ed Balbier was paranoid (probably justified) about rarities slipping out that he would sometimes check a box before it was sold. Collette Kelly quite likely as there was thousands of blue Volt and yellow Stax titles in the mid 70s.

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7 minutes ago, Owd Codger said:

Well, I spoke to him and it was an immediate recall.

But it was around 1971 or so, so who knows for certain.  I'll take his word for it

 

Before my time so not guilty.

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His job allowed him time to trawl through market stalls etc looking for imports.. I expected him to say Shudehill or High Street Market stalls.

He immediately recalled...Soul pack / Global.

Not to worry

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12 hours ago, Owd Codger said:

Maybe not, probably my trade was unimportant to him, but my connection to this 45 dates from around 1970-72 so it was very personal  item to me and I know it's history  (i.e.  years loving the record but unable to persuade my friend to swap, and years later getting possession of his copy) and what I eventually did with it (Very Reluctantly too). This was before the record gained recognition I presume.......as to when the NS scene discovered it I do not know, but my friend ( a member of this web site) had it around 1970-74 period.

I can tell you that , when trading it, I asked Dave Withers did he know it , and suggested to him to play it there and then.. He replied that he didn't, and it was obvious after a few bars, he approved. He was either a magnificent poker player, or he genuinely didn't know it. There would probably be no reason for him to remember it....to me , it is imprinted on my memory.

I was sad to let it go but at the time, as a lapsed Motown collector, was thrilled to get this tape of Motown unissued ( Suspicion, Love starved heart, Keep Steppin;, After the rain etc ).

 

 

Interesting read’ I bet you wish you kept it as the price is astronomical these days 

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8 hours ago, Owd Codger said:

Just been speaking to my friend who seems to think he got the Chuck Cockerham in a Soul Pack from Global Records on Chepstow Street, Manchester. 

He also recalls getting Collette Kelly "City of Fools" in a pack from there too.

 

Soul packs from Global Records always had interesting 45s I once got Martha Starr Loves only Solution’ which wasn’t well known at the time ‘ happy days 

 

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