Please enlighten me, how many known copies of Arthur Willis?

Thanks

Mark

9 minutes ago, dave pinch said:

the whole label appear to be 70s creations chris........ the 60s diehards could be using AW as a frizbee as we speak

Hi Dave,with a few exceptions I think I've always fallen into the 60s die hard mentality,sad as it is lol. Chris. 

2 minutes ago, Wheelsville1 said:

Hi Dave,with a few exceptions I think I've always fallen into the 60s die hard mentality,sad as it is lol. Chris. 

we like what we like mate and thats it

5 minutes ago, dave pinch said:

we like what we like mate and thats it

Totally agree Dave,say hi to your BRI from me as I haven't seen you guys in quite a while. 

Got to say i'm amazed it's anything past 1970, but if that's where the evidence points.... Must be like one of those r&b things that sound like an early 60s cut but are actually 70s releases. Who the dickens would of bought AW in 1975?!

We know hardly anyone did but who were they targeting?!

1 hour ago, dave pinch said:

whatever happened to this copy..started as a high buy it now i think

https://www.popsike.com/NORTHERN-SOUL-HOLY-GRAIL-Arthur-Willis-Soulful-Dynamics-MARS-TOUR/182391660424.html

If memory serves, this one was a bogus listing. The record never existed and was not listed by an honest seller. 

45 minutes ago, corbett80 said:

We know hardly anyone did but who were they targeting?!

Difficult question to answer without Arthur himself to say. What I do know is that the studio where it was recorded advertised in local papers that anyone could come in with songs, record them, get them pressed and handed over to you to market for a flat fee. How exactly Carl Queen came to release this and the other three soul/funk records on his label I don't know. Carl himself told me that he didn't market them and he didn't even remember Arthur. Rickey Andrews told me he went in with his own musicians and recorded four songs. Two came out on Queen's label, and he put the other two out himself some years later on his own RWA label - he had to buy the tapes from the studio to do that second 45.  So, when we think of record labels operating within the music industry, this operation was not your traditional "let's service radio, try for a hit and make lots of money". This was more of a vanity operation where they made money on the studio side and let the artist figure out the rest.

Where Rickey Andrews had his own musicians from his nightclub experience, the studio would also have session musicians on hand to either work up the music if it wasn't charted out, or just to read the charts and record. They recorded some talent show winners this way as well. So the "target" in this case, as it were, may have just been Arthur Willis's dream to record and get on the radio - there's no evidence he got any radio play either. Unless and until he is found (I along with quite a few others have looked), there are questions here for which we may never have answers

3 hours ago, Agent45 said:

I have no idea at this point, Steve. 

Apologies, didn't see that your post was 10 years ago LOL. 

 £10k ... not worth any thing near that, it may be rare for a reason its not very good, just my opinion......

On 21/03/2019 at 13:42, dave pinch said:

the whole label appear to be 70s creations chris........ the 60s diehards could be using AW as a frizbee as we speak

Lol, That's an interesting thought Dave. 

On 21/03/2019 at 01:28, Agent45 said:

Circa '75, give or take.

If you look at 45 cat on the Internet, listing for the label, it states ATTEIRAM (Marietta, Georgia spelt backwards) Publishing Co. made its debut in 1971, and it looks like the Arthur Willis was the 1st release ?

36 minutes ago, HILL868 said:

If you look at 45 cat on the Internet, listing for the label, it states ATTEIRAM (Marietta, Georgia spelt backwards) Publishing Co. made its debut in 1971, and it looks like the Arthur Willis was the 1st release ?

thats a very good point.. and i think youre bang on the money

9 hours ago, dave pinch said:

thats a very good point.. and i think youre bang on the money

10 hours ago, HILL868 said:

If you look at 45 cat on the Internet, listing for the label, it states ATTEIRAM (Marietta, Georgia spelt backwards) Publishing Co. made its debut in 1971, and it looks like the Arthur Willis was the 1st release ?

 

Nadine Brown recorded in the same studios "Leave Me Alone" after she moved from Florida