What are your top ten RnB records that have crossed over to be Northern Soul floor fillers?

I guess mine are:

I Can't Please You - Jimmy Robins

I Can't Get Enough - Johnny Sayles

Sweeter Than The Day Before - The Valentinos

What Good Am I - Mickey Champion

Sippin' Sorrow - Pearl Woods

My Baby Likes To Boogaloo - Don Gardner

If You Don't Come - Patience Valentine

The Champion - Willie Mitchell

It's Your Voodoo Working - Charles Sheffield

I'm A Big Man - Big Daddy Rogers

How much change would I get from £1000 for that little lot?

Catch that teardrop - 5 Royales (well this one probably owes its style to doo-wop maybe). Huge record everywhere and loved by all those who dont like RnB . First played by Hoss about ten years ago apparently.

I wouldnt have put the Valentinos in there to be honest but what do I know?

Shane

I was told Lonnie Lester - You can go is RnB.

To me its just Northern Soul, par excellance.

Same with Larry Davies - I've been hurt

Is Diamond Joe - How to pick a winner RnB?? If so I love it long time Jonny

If You Don't Come - Patience Valentine

Aw please tell me you don't really like this-it makes my skin crawl. The vocal is the scariest thing ever..I can make my 7 year old daughter do ANYTHING if I threaten her with a few bars of this record

I wouldnt have put the Valentinos in there to be honest but what do I know? 

Shane

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You wouldn't put it in because you don't feel it is RnB or it's not a top ten?

Edited June 16, 200520 yr by Rbman

If You Don't Come - Patience Valentine

Aw please tell me you don't really like this-it makes my skin crawl.  The vocal is the scariest thing ever..I can make my 7 year old daughter do ANYTHING if I threaten her with a few bars of this record

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great record Reg. Brilliant lyrics too.

I like the bit where she threatens to leave her man for another man who is 6ft tall

Shane

If You Don't Come - Patience Valentine

Aw please tell me you don't really like this-it makes my skin crawl.  The vocal is the scariest thing ever..I can make my 7 year old daughter do ANYTHING if I threaten her with a few bars of this record

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I guess you don't want to sell me your copy then as it's such a powerful weapon

You wouldn't but it in because you don't feel it is RnB or it's not a top ten?

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I don't consider it to be RnB to be honest. I consider it to be solid group Northern.

IMO of course.

good thread though mate.

Shane

I guess you don't want to sell me your copy then as it's such a powerful weapon

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It isn't mine- but if I can ever sneak it out of the house it's yours for a tenner I can always play her the cd...

seven day fool - Etta James

Second class lover - Jean Dushon

These have had big room plays I am sure

Shane

What are your top ten RnB records that have crossed over to be Northern Soul floor fillers?

I guess mine are:

I Can't Please You - Jimmy Robins

I Can't Get Enough - Johnny Sayles

Sweeter Than The Day Before - The Valentinos

What Good Am I - Mickey Champion

Sippin' Sorrow - Pearl Woods

My Baby Likes To Boogaloo - Don Gardner

If You Don't Come - Patience Valentine

The Champion - Willie Mitchell

It's Your Voodoo Working - Charles Sheffield

I'm A Big Man - Big Daddy Rogers

How much change would I get from £1000 for that little lot?

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I don't get this. The following records were classed as Northern before anyone had associated the term R & B with this scene:

I Can't Please You - Jimmy Robins

I Can't Get Enough - Johnny Sayles

Sweeter Than The Day Before - The Valentinos

What Good Am I - Mickey Champion

The Champion - Willie Mitchell

The Valentinos is about as out-and-out northern as you can get. The Champion, r & b?

Load of bollocks...

I was pretty much thinking the same Pete, generaly speaking we could say that all the records we listen to is r&b but didnt we adopt these records on our scene many years ago and label them northern soul ?

I'm shakin-Little Willie John

Wade in the Water-Little Sonny

Love aint nothin-Johnny Nash

baby don't you weep-Wilson Pickett/Fred Bridges

Let him be your boy-Wilson Pickett

Raining Teardrops_The Rockmasters...or maybe that's a bit doo wop??

I'm shakin-Little Willie John

Wade in the Water-Little Sonny

Love aint nothin-Johnny Nash

baby don't you weep-Wilson Pickett/Fred Bridges

Let him be your boy-Wilson Pickett

Raining Teardrops_The Rockmasters...or maybe that's a bit doo wop??

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wilson pickett.....one of the worst records to be played out imo. even worse than sugar dumpling and loving by the pound which are really awful imo.

Shane

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Let him be your boy-Wilson Pickett

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Let ME be your boy. Sorry

Freddie King - 100 years ?

Shane

Anna Bell Ceasar - Little Annie

Sherri Taylor - He's the one..

+ loads more

How much change would I get from £1000 for that little lot?

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None Martin, afraid to say they'd cost you more than that.

Let ME be your boy. Sorry

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Yes you are correct-one of my smaller errors

wilson pickett.....one of the worst records to be played out imo. even worse than sugar dumpling and loving by the pound which are really awful imo.

Shane

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Hurrah! I've been saying this for years and years and no one has ever agreed with me!!!

I'm shakin-Little Willie John

Wade in the Water-Little Sonny

Love aint nothin-Johnny Nash

baby don't you weep-Wilson Pickett/Fred Bridges

Let him be your boy-Wilson Pickett

Raining Teardrops_The Rockmasters...or maybe that's a bit doo wop??

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Rockmasters , do me a favour!,....you seem a bit confused!

It's SOUL.

Rockmasters , do me a favour!,....you seem a bit confused!

It's SOUL.

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If you say so.......

When an out and out RnB tune is good it is then called.....northern

Shane

Only recently heard this and can't get it out of my (limited) brain:

Dorothy Williams - Watchdog

Hippo.

P.S. Pete - another who agrees with you on Wilson Pickett, never got the appeal of that one at all!

Firstly as with all styles of music on this scene what may float one man's boat will often sink another and the R'n'B style is no different, you have to define R'n'B as some of the stuff played has no connection with the style at all, as i've said before a good bench mark record to possibly define the style already mentioned is 'Jimmy Robbins'.

Others that spring to mind are:- Hayes Cotton, Ray Agee, Dusty Wilson, Cookie Jackson, Little John, Marion James and numerous others, all in all these records deserve to be entered into the mix as long as the quality is there, however i think it all gets a little cloudy when the likes of Dean Barlow, Barbara Redd and Hopalong Cassidy and Co are given turntable action.....still as i say whatever floats your boat!

Regards - Mark Bicknell.

Firstly as with all styles of music on this scene what may float one man's boat will often sink another and the R'n'B style is no different, you have to define R'n'B as some of the stuff played has no connection with the style at all, as i've said before a good bench mark record to possibly define the style already mentioned is 'Jimmy Robbins'.

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True enough Mark, one mans meat and all that...must admit that my benchmark is probably Big Daddy Rogers (oops, another Big daddy ), that kind of crunching beat is ideal Northern IMHO. Some of the almost doo-wop/rock 'n roll stuff is just too early for me, but I'm trying not to write it all off like some people as there'll always be something that grabs you and says "I'm the exception to the rule..."

Hippo.

None Martin, afraid to say they'd cost you more than that.

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Having just totalled them up I think I would be lucky to get change from £1500

rockmasters floats my boat..but lets face it its doo wop

some of the tunes mentioned here have no resemblence to anything soulful.or R& B fer that matter

stop hiding behind the genre of soul and call it what it is fer gawds sake

ITS ROCK AND ROLL

rockmasters floats my boat..but lets face it its doo wop

some of the tunes mentioned here have no resemblence to anything soulful.or R& B fer that matter

stop hiding behind the genre of soul and call it what it is fer gawds sake

ITS ROCK AND ROLL

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Raining teardrops is Soul, forget the sleeve notes!

Raining teardrops is Soul, forget the sleeve notes!  

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Doo wop, doo wop ,doo wop.....

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Raining teardrops is Soul, forget the sleeve notes!  

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Indeed it is John, and some soul record it is AWESOOOOOME!!

One record I can't see the appeal of is...

Barbara Dane - I'm On My Way

pete and shane im shocked , i love that wilson picket track i do think its more of a mod track though good as a switch record to ska or visa versa .....

my fave r&b at the moment doubt if any would cross over though

roscoe sheton is it to late babe excello

sherri taylor lover motown

rose hargrove why am i losing you afco

johnnie jackson what you gonna do j-mer

chuck wright palm of your hand ember

ray scott feeling no pain decca

errol dixon i dont want direct

louis jordan what i say tangerine

fabulous playboys honky tonk woman apollo

sugar and sweet you dont have to cry s.s.j

I remember a Bobby Freeman record called the swim, i class this as northern soul, as it was played on the scene and adopted, could this also be rock & roll ? I think he used to have something to do with that scene, just curious

pete and shane im shocked , i love that wilson picket track i do think its more of a mod track though good as a switch record to ska or visa versa .....

my fave r&b  at the moment  doubt if any would cross over though 

roscoe sheton is it to late babe  excello

sherri taylor  lover motown

rose hargrove  why am i losing you  afco

johnnie jackson  what you gonna do  j-mer

chuck wright  palm of your hand  ember

ray scott feeling no pain  decca

errol dixon i dont want  direct

louis jordan  what i say  tangerine

fabulous playboys  honky tonk woman apollo

sugar and sweet  you dont have to cry  s.s.j

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Nice list Andy, but as you say not much hope of filling a northern night dance floor

Is that a sample of what will be played at Blocked on Saturday night?

I thought the idea of this thread was to list the big rnb tunes that crossed over to the northern dancefloor. It has become a thread about current rnb faves which wasnt the idea. :angry:

I like the idea of this thread and maybe it should be regimented in a similar style to the top ten northern guru's ?

Come on Rbman tell them the score

Shane

Nice list Andy, but as you say not much hope of filling a northern night dance floor

Is that a sample of what will be played at Blocked on Saturday night?

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hello mate

there in my play box yes, though not a plug for blocked

are you coming along then ?

free entry from 9 - 10

club soul , boogaloo , r&b and ska

sherlock holmes

station road westcliff

nearest station westcliff on sea

phil raines guesting

now thats a plug

now thats a plug 

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I thought the idea of this thread was to list the big rnb tunes that crossed over to the northern dancefloor. It has become a thread about current rnb faves which wasnt the idea.  :angry:

I like the idea of this thread and maybe it should be regimented in a similar style to the top ten northern guru's ?

Come on Rbman tell them the score 

Shane

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Good point Shane...so easy to go off thread

Well starting with my list how many would be in yours? I'm happy to remove "Sweeter...." but my ears and feet tell me that The Champion is RnB and not "Bollocks"

Question,what is R&B crossover or whatever you call it,i though it is all R&B,it dont make any sence,anything with any gritt!,in it is now R&B,I would prefere it be popcorn,and if anybody says im playing popcorn i would tell em`to f*****f no probblem,ie:soul stuff aint gonna get in the R&B charts again dont think so!,R&B is a mixture of music styles like soul,doo wapp,R&R,all black/race music

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Question,what is R&B crossover or whatever you call it,i though it is all R&B,it dont make any sence,anything with any gritt!in it is now R&B,I would prefere it be popcorn,and if anybody says im playing popcorn i would tell em`to f*****f no probblem,ie:soul stuff aint gonna get in the R&B charts again dont think so!,R&B is a mixture of music styles like soul,doo wapp,R&R,all black/race music

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Have you got a f*ckin space bar on your keyboard???

Good point Shane...so easy to go off thread

Well starting with my list how many would be in yours?  I'm happy to remove "Sweeter...."  but my ears and feet tell me that The Champion is RnB and not "Bollocks"

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I didn't say The Champion was bollocks, I said your assumption that it could be classed as R&B is bollocks, and it is!

Have you got a f*ckin space bar on your keyboard???

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ken has always been 'spaced' out

Try and be fair on him. His cat does all the typing for him whilst ken reads the TV Times.

Shane

ken has always been 'spaced' out 

the TV Times. 

Shane

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Is that still going??

Is that still going??

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no it finished years ago but ken still picks them up at car boots

Shane

ken has always been 'spaced' out 

Try and be fair on him. His cat does all the typing for him whilst ken reads the TV Times. 

Shane

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I didn't say The Champion was bollocks, I said your assumption that it could be classed as R&B is bollocks, and it is!

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..and I didn't say that The Champion was bollocks either.......and it is RnB so there!

Have you got a f*ckin space bar on your keyboard???

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I didn't

have the heart to ask him!

..and I didn't say that The Champion was bollocks either.......and it is RnB so there!

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pete and shane im shocked , i love that wilson picket track i do think its more of a mod track though good as a switch record to ska or visa versa .....

my fave r&b  at the moment  doubt if any would cross over though 

roscoe sheton is it to late babe  excello

sherri taylor  lover motown

rose hargrove  why am i losing you  afco

johnnie jackson  what you gonna do  j-mer

chuck wright  palm of your hand  ember

ray scott feeling no pain  decca

errol dixon i dont want  direct

louis jordan  what i say  tangerine

fabulous playboys  honky tonk woman apollo

sugar and sweet  you dont have to cry  s.s.j

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Oh no, that Wilson Pickett track is dire and shouldn't be played in mod clubs either. Glad to see someone listing that Ray Scott, my favourite of his, even better than Love Piled On Top Of Love, but not as good as Gladys Tyler, which is both RnB and soul, as is Mickie Champion.

So there!

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