I bought this on 45 about 10 years ago on ebay. I remember exchanging messages with the seller he thought Donald Albert and Curtis Anderson were the same person.

Don't remember ever selling it so it should be tucked away in a box somewhere. I have the sound file I recorded and it is identical to the Curtis Anderson 45. Not sure about this but think it was on Runaway same as the 12" but label was yellow and green.

Anyone remember selling this or has any info?

Alan

Donald Alpert was from Detroit I thought. Seem to recall he was on The Cracksteppin album.

Sold my 12" on Runaway , never seen a 7".

Sold my 12" on Runaway , never seen a 7".

I dont believe it was on a 45,certainly never seen or heard of one. I think it was pressed up specifically aimed at the UK Modern soul scene of the day on the back of the Curtis Anderson version which was massive at the time.Rod Dearlove stocked them at the time at Voices From The Shadows. It definately appeared after the Curtis Anderson version was discovered and popularised. Its not identical either,not the same backing track or vocally. The Curtis Anderson is far superior to my ears and nothing to do with rareity either,it just is. Steve G is correct about the "Cracksteppin" connection as well. I used to have a 45 of " What Are We Gonna Do With This Feeling" which was by Kelli Evans & Donald Albert...hope this helps,

best, Ivor Jones

As previously stated , pressed up EXCLUSIVELY for the Uk market

I'm sure there was/is no 7" - but I'd love to be proved wrong - can you dig it out fella?

As previously stated , pressed up EXCLUSIVELY for the Uk market

There is one more thing....dunno if anyone else ever noticed but the vast majority of these indie 12" that appeared around the same time and mainly being sold through Rod Dearlove`s "Voices" set up nearly all had the same font/lettering on the different labels... Didnt all this stuff appear through a contact in America called Richard Carrington....? Its a long time ago now. Lets see if it exits on 45 now... Im not gonna say it doesn`t though,we`ve been proved wrong before !

There is one more thing....dunno if anyone else ever noticed but the vast majority of these indie 12" that appeared around the same time and mainly being sold through Rod Dearlove`s "Voices" set up nearly all had the same font/lettering on the different labels... Didnt all this stuff appear through a contact in America called Richard Carrington....? Its a long time ago now. Lets see if it exits on 45 now... Im not gonna say it doesn`t though,we`ve been proved wrong before !

There is one more thing....dunno if anyone else ever noticed but the vast majority of these indie 12" that appeared around the same time and mainly being sold through Rod Dearlove`s "Voices" set up nearly all had the same font/lettering on the different labels... Didnt all this stuff appear through a contact in America called Richard Carrington....? Its a long time ago now. Lets see if it exits on 45 now... Im not gonna say it doesn`t though,we`ve been proved wrong before !

Richard lives in St Helens nowadays....there's a big conversation in there that I'm opting out of haha.

I used to stock Voices stuff was never offered a Donald Albert 7" but am not saying that there isn't one, just that I've never seen one sold or offered in all these years.

Richard lives in St Helens nowadays....there's a big conversation in there that I'm opting out of haha.

...... quite right too .... don't ask most of the artists whose tracks appeared on those 12"ers what they think of him.

I'm sure there was/is no 7" - but I'd love to be proved wrong - can you dig it out fella?

Nowadays I'm not even sure of me own name but I have only ever bought a handful of 12" and I don't have Donald Albert. I have boxes of records stashed in cupboards all over the house so it's not gonna be a long slog but when I get a bit of time I'll have a look through.

Alan

The 45 format of DH does not and never excised !!

Anyway throw this into the melting pot or discard it as non fiction or fiction - whatever.

It was strongly rumoured back then - that Donald Albert was Curtis Anderson's brother in law.

And Curtis Anderson was in fact Curtis Hairston.

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The 45 format of DH does not and never excised !!

Anyway throw this into the melting pot or discard it as non fiction or fiction - whatever.

It was strongly rumoured back then - that Donald Albert was Curtis Anderson's brother in law.

And Curtis Anderson was in fact Curtis Hairston.

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I thought Curtis Anderson was Curtis (How Can I Tell Her?)

The 45 format of DH does not and never excised !!

Anyway throw this into the melting pot or discard it as non fiction or fiction - whatever.

It was strongly rumoured back then - that Donald Albert was Curtis Anderson's brother in law.

And Curtis Anderson was in fact Curtis Hairston.

.

I'm not having the Curtis Hairston bit Nick - vocally too far apart.

I thought Curtis Anderson was Curtis (How Can I Tell Her?)

Afternoon Barry -

another rumour that remains at lose and unproven . The artist known as Curtis released 2 x 45 different versions on Charm City and a 12 version during 1979 of HCITH.

Was he Anderson/Albert or Hairston.

I am in agreement that the last surname of Hairston is and was too vocally weak.

But hey ho and back to the melting pot !!

Nick.

Afternoon Barry -

another rumour that remains at lose and unproven . The artist known as Curtis released 2 x 45 different versions on Charm City and a 12 version during 1979 of HCITH.

Was he Anderson/Albert or Hairston.

I am in agreement that the last surname of Hairston is and was too vocally weak.

But hey ho and back to the melting pot !!

Nick.

Have a good birthday mate?

Bad head?

Bad head?

Yes !!

It's full of rock and rounded boulders.

.

another rumour that remains at lose and unproven . The artist known as Curtis released 2 x 45 different versions on Charm City and a 12 version during 1979 of HCITH.

Was he Anderson/Albert or Hairston.

Curtis on CHARM CITY is the same person as Curtis Anderson on BROWN BAG. That's 100%.

Curtis released 6 45s on CHARM CITY (including two different issues of "How Can I Tell Her").

Yes !!

It's full of rock and rounded boulders.

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...spot on, I'm pleased for you mate

Curtis on CHARM CITY is the same person as Curtis Anderson on BROWN BAG. That's 100%.

Curtis released 6 45s on CHARM CITY (including two different issues of "How Can I Tell Her").

Wasn't Curtis (Anderson) HCILH a famous radio DJ too?

Peter

Curtis on CHARM CITY is the same person as Curtis Anderson on BROWN BAG. That's 100%.

Curtis released 6 45s on CHARM CITY (including two different issues of "How Can I Tell Her").

What were his other releases Sebastian?

The only other thing I have on Charm City is She Devil - 'She Devil' an old (but cool) funk spin of Searlings.

Wasn't Curtis (Anderson) HCILH a famous radio DJ too?

Peter

Yes on WWIN Baltimore. There's a picture of him on the cover of old Blackbeat No 14. Had pix of She Devil and others on the label as well.,....SPoke to him AFTER How can I tell her but before he did Hardest PArt,

Yes on WWIN Baltimore. There's a picture of him on the cover of old Blackbeat No 14. Had pix of She Devil and others on the label as well.,....SPoke to him AFTER How can I tell her but before he did Hardest PArt,

I used to get Blackbeat but must have missed 14 - anyone got a scan?

Yes on WWIN Baltimore. There's a picture of him on the cover of old Blackbeat No 14. Had pix of She Devil and others on the label as well.,....SPoke to him AFTER How can I tell her but before he did Hardest PArt,

That's interesting Steve. Incidentally I would have thought that Hardest Part was an earlier record than How Can I Tell Here - soundwise I mean.

Peter

What were his other releases Sebastian?

CHARM CITY 1879 - Curtis - How Can I Tell Her / I Remember

CHARM CITY 1932 - Curtis — How Can I Tell Her (without sound effects) / I Remember

CHARM CITY 1011 - Curtis — Precious One / No Good In Me Without You

CHARM CITY 1113 - Curtis — The Girl Who Needs Me / Lovin' Back Guarantee

CHARM CITY 1115 - Curtis — Ain't That Tuff / Precious One

More info here:

https://www.dcsoulrecordings.com/index.php?id=27

CHARM CITY 1879 - Curtis - How Can I Tell Her / I Remember

CHARM CITY 1932 - Curtis — How Can I Tell Her (without sound effects) / I Remember

CHARM CITY 1011 - Curtis — Precious One / No Good In Me Without You

CHARM CITY 1113 - Curtis — The Girl Who Needs Me / Lovin' Back Guarantee

CHARM CITY 1115 - Curtis — Ain't That Tuff / Precious One

More info here:

https://www.dcsoulrec...index.php?id=27

Ta for that Sebastian.

That's interesting Steve. Incidentally I would have thought that Hardest Part was an earlier record than How Can I Tell Here - soundwise I mean.

Peter

Hi Pete, hardest PArt was 84/5, How Can I tell her was 79.....ATB Steve

Incidentally I would have thought that Hardest Part was an earlier record than How Can I Tell Here - soundwise I mean.

Really? Always thought that Hardest Part sounds much later than How Can I tell her. Infact I think soundwise there's only a few years between Curtis Anderson and Donald Albert, maybe 2 or 3.

As previously stated , pressed up EXCLUSIVELY for the Uk market

One more thing....i have this theory that the label name for the Donald Albert release refers to the action they took when asked to pay royalties.....I wonder ?

And on that note, its time for dinner !

Edited October 7, 201212 yr by Ivor Jones

Wasn't Curtis (Anderson) HCILH a famous radio DJ too?

Peter

An article about Curtis / Curtis Anderson ............

An article about Curtis / Curtis Anderson ............

Cheers for that Roburt - I've seen another article previously but not that one. Liked the bit about how the record was a platform for some local musicians and it was "placed locally". I guess they never knew - or would even understand at the time, how it would become so big over here in the early 80's.

Thanks

Peter

Edited October 7, 201212 yr by Peter99

From the date of the article & the reference in it to "How Can I Tell Her" having been in local record shops for 3 weeks, it seems that it was released around the 10th October 1979.

When David Ruffin came to these shores early 90's, I asked him if he had done a version of "The Hardest Part".He smiled and then sang the song,so beggers, there maybe his version in the can somewhere.

Interesting thread and also noticed a Hardest Part 45 (Curtis Anderson) sold for £500 on ebay this afternoon, so still some interest in it for sure.

No idea if the Curtis Anderson who played in the band that backed up Jimmy Briscoe (see end of attached article) is the same Curtis A who made "How Can I Tell Her" ... BUT ... it seems strange to me that there would be 2 C.A's involved on the Baltimore music scene at the same time (the HCITH guy mainly being a local radio stn DJ in 72) .................

... mind you if there were 2 different guys of that name on the Balto scene, that may have been the reason his record was released as just by Curtis. However, it could just as easily have been to hide the fact that the track was by a top Baltimore radio DJ and thus improve its chances of getting air play on other radio stns.

Edited October 8, 201212 yr by Roburt

Donald Albert is also L J Reynolds cousin