Hi there,

just wondered if the following is an original-anyone any idea?

4a087992a0ee990

https://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHNNY-VANELLI-Seven-Days-Of-Loving-You-TOP-60s-Northern-Soul-rarity-HEAR-/320995170098?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item4abccd9732

thanks,

Carl.

As far as I know this has never been booted. I have the same copy, but I don't think it's worth as much as that is priced at.

I may be wrong though so I would wait for others to answer before you take any intended action.

Steve

was booted on a green label. one on ebay looks kosher tho.

was booted on a green label. one on ebay looks kosher tho.

yes definitley booted,

Careful because both the boot and the original are styrene. They look very. very similar. The boot has PB scratched into the run off.

Careful because both the boot and the original are styrene. They look very. very similar. The boot has PB scratched into the run off.

Pete , what/who is the PB 'cause doesn't this appear on loads of boots ??

Cheers

Swifty

Careful because both the boot and the original are styrene. They look very. very similar. The boot has PB scratched into the run off.

That and the paper label are the only way to tell the difference!! Be careful with this one if you cant see the run out groove as some people try to erase the "PB" out of the run out as that is the big give away.................

Theres about 6 titles that have have the Pb Salvadors, George Blackwell ect

Also, have to be wary, at that price, where seller doesn't vouch for it being an original and states:-

ALL RECORDS ARE ORIGINAL PRESSINGS UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED

Pete , what/who is the PB 'cause doesn't this appear on loads of boots ??

Cheers

Swifty

The "PB" I believe were the initials of the guy who did the boots Mr Manship did tell me the story and the guys name He is your man on this one!!

Edited October 11, 201212 yr by mrtag

Theres about 6 titles that have have the Pb Salvadors, George Blackwell ect

Cheers Ted , I've told myself a million times to stop exagerating

Swifty

Matrix details are within an earlier thread...the scan in the advert looks to be of an original copy...smooth, well-affixed label and decent print quality.

As far as I know this has never been booted. I have the same copy, but I don't think it's worth as much as that is priced at.

I may be wrong though so I would wait for others to answer before you take any intended action.

Steve

Craig Moerer auctioned a VG- copy recently which went for almost double that price:

Have a look [here]

Flogged a boot a couple of month back - £27.00

Thanks, as I said I wasn't sure and wanted the enquirer to wait for more info.

As they say live and learn! :-)

Here's a teaser then. I paid approx' £15 for this on ebay about 3 years ago. It has the matrix number 'PR 256' scratched into the dead wax, but no 'PB' anywhere and no scratched out marks?

was I lucky to get an original cheap, or is this a boot?.

Edited October 11, 201212 yr by Steve Luigi

I'm no expert, but the run out grooves look quite wide in that scan and in my limited experience wide run out grooves tend to indicate a 70's press rather than an original.

I'm no expert, but the run out grooves look quite wide in that scan and in my limited experience wide run out grooves tend to indicate a 70's press rather than an original.

So that would indicate that the lack of 'PB' on these doesn't necessarily mean that it's not a boot? Making it even harder to distinguish the original copies from the legit ones.

Just as an update, the auction has ended now with no buyer by the looks.

Edited October 11, 201212 yr by Steve Luigi

im suprised no-one brought that copy, defo looked right and in nice condition as stated a vg- copy sold for near £300.00 last week on ebay

as craig moerer stated first copy he had auctioned on ebay, not an easy 45, sounds great played out loud.............

happy soulin

russ

wouldn't the MR matrix give it away if it was a boot - like the Soul Patrol for instance?

wouldn't the MR matrix give it away if it was a boot - like the Soul Patrol for instance?

Mine doesn't have 'MR' on either??

Sold mine about 12 years ago, so memory hazy, but I thought the bhe boots did, won't it be in the late 90's to 100 in the MR matrix?

I sold one a two or three years back - presumed it was a boot - got about £10-£20 for it I think - isn't there something different about the dash between the pre and the vue on the boot I seem to remember? or the shade of green?

Mine doesn't have 'MR' on either??

wouldn't the MR matrix give it away if it was a boot

The machine-stamped 'MR' denotes the Monarch pressing plant, and is therefore not on all styrene records.

The original Johnny Vanelli was not manufactured at Monarch, so no MR.

no, but the boots of both the Soul Patrol and Johnny V were weren't they - like a lot of the boots at that time?

I bought an original off ebay about 4 years ago for less than £70 off a UK seller. He forgot to mention it was cracked! So sent it back.

Edited October 16, 201212 yr by Pete S

Theres about 6 titles that have have the Pb Salvadors, George Blackwell ect

also the gto's.......think it was a new york fella who done these back in the day....more like counterfeits than boots as they are hard to tell ....except for p.b.....as ever could be a bit wrong ,but not wrong if ya know what l mean tezza

no, but the boots of both the Soul Patrol and Johnny V were weren't they - like a lot of the boots at that time?

The JohnnyV bootlegs/counterfeits were on styrene not vinyl...but were not manufactured at Monarch...hence no MR stamp or Delta number.

my mistake! I thought all of those styrene boots were Monarch. Just shows what I know/knew! good I stopped collecting eh?