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A ONE TIME OPPORTUNITY..........................................

Way back in the summer of 1975 I had the good fortune one night to be on stage at the Wigan Casino club; even more fortunate in that I was also

one of the DJ's at the Casino.

The Casino was everyone's weekly destination - the pinnacle of northern soul. At the height of its popularity thousands flocked to the doors of the club every Saturday night and tonight was no exception!

Packed to the rafters the music boomed out on the heaving sweating dancers who gyrated and spun like dervishes. The beat of the backing tracks was echoed by the almighty coming together of 1000 sweaty palms in unison. This was Northern Soul!

In the gloom of this crazy scene the DJ sat solemn in his high alter observing the effects of every platter he selected. Then his next choice was

something very special, the announcement came "No Dean Courtney tonight I am going to spin the original version of I'll Always Need You"

Slight pause while everybody took a breath, the collectors in the down stairs bar knew something was afoot and strained their ears to catch what was coming next.

Then in an ear splitting second the opening bars of the song - sung by.......Len Barry! This was an original version much heavier and more pronounced that the version by Dean Courtney, almost tailor made for the scene...........

Did I imagine it; did all of us imagine it?

Why because it was never heard again on the scene, the best thing we had ever heard disappeared before our very eyes......or was I hallucinating?

Was the whole of Wigan on one huge mind bending trip that night?

Had we all had too much of Dave Mitchell?

This became a curse for me as the next ten years I looked for this elusive

album that it was played from. I was told by respected and knowledgeable parties that it had been released in the UK only, but nobody had ever seen the album sleeve......and on and on. Over the years some of the biggest names on the scene said, yes they agreed with the story.

The story became a legend in time and ranks alongside the elusive "vocal" of 6x6, eventually as it happens over time the legend went into a period of denial. "It just doesn't exist said one collector" backed by a number of nodding heads it almost became the pursuit of the Holy Grail!

Then in 2006, some four weeks ago a lonely figure sent out on a pilgrimage from Melton Mowbray in pursuit of a legend. This was no ordinary figure this was a man with an enormous amount of knowledge in the cataloguing of the Northern Soul phenomena.

Destined to meet John Madera, the guy who produced the Len Barry album

The hands sweated the hair stood up on the back of his neck as our intrepid traveller steps forward and places the stylus upon the acetate of this legendary studio album. Boom........its back, found after 30 years in the wilderness.

With a full history of the production and jaw dropping details of the backing artists.....wait for it.....the Tymes and the Sweet Three, our man arrives back in the UK.

With an additional four tracks never before heard on our shores the album motors through a full consultation process (2 bank managers, one intrepid traveller and one DJ) yes me!

And with a final turbo boost it makes its way to Sheffield, and yes guess what

first play at SAMANTHA'S NITER this Easter....just like the old day's.......see you there!!!!

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correct.

unfashionable. dated. cheesy.out of place. uninspiring.

the only positive is that we now have another version of a quirky oldie.

just like that 'faith and understanding' thing that gets played.

i am sure it will work wonders with the oldies crowd though.

Shane

Shane , before you were born ....and I know thats not a prerequisit, knew about this /oldies /do you know about......... NOT getting at you but the info on the LP ..........IS old hat.Then again what do I know I think the rarest LP is by Lou Johnson.........

ATB Stevie z

sorry mate "I'm In Love" is an unknown track whistling.gif

i was only actually commenting on the others but thanks for picking me up on that Joe

sorry mate "I'm In Love" is an unknown track whistling.gif

Shane define quirky??????????

No even better half the stuff that you lot bleat about as newies have all either been aired or played on the scene years ago, so there all fucking oldies mate...................

good oldies and bad oldies. some date quicker than others. some attach themselves to another era with much more ease than others.

this one should be forgotten about if we are talking about taking things forward, keeping it exciting and cool.

only my opinons.

and stevie z, much as i hate to say this......you have lost me again

Shane

Mmmm strange thread this ive know of a copy very near sunny barnsley that was picked up for peanuts 18 months ago, no cover but bonefide brunswick label...i thought the cover had been lost so thats an education for me that there arnt any.

when i first started reading the thread i was actually unaware of its supposed rarity and wondered what the fuss was all about, but then its not the first copy ive seen over the years either so when you come across a couple without even looking for it ...is it that rare???...im asking a question here not trying to belittle anyone.

how many do we know were pressed?

on another note not long ago a person asked me if i could pick a tune that was the epitome of Northern soul what would it be.........1.2.3 len barry i replied..one of the finest recordings ever its got everything a record should be...i still get goose bumps when it gets aired

Geeoooordie

correct.

unfashionable. dated. cheesy.out of place. uninspiring.

the only positive is that we now have another version of a quirky oldie.

just like that 'faith and understanding' thing that gets played.

i am sure it will work wonders with the oldies crowd though.

Shane

One last point from me.............

TODAY WOULDN'T EXIST WITHOUT YESTERDAY

YESTERDAY IS HISTORY - YOUR HISTORY - OUR HISTORY

KNOWLEDGE OF YESTERDAY IS KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY

TODAY EXISTS BECAUSE OF YESTERDAYS HISTORY

WERE YOU AROUND YESTERDAY? whistling.gif

One last point from me.............

TODAY WOULDN'T EXIST WITHOUT YESTERDAY

YESTERDAY IS HISTORY - YOUR HISTORY - OUR HISTORY

KNOWLEDGE OF YESTERDAY IS KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY

TODAY EXISTS BECAUSE OF YESTERDAYS HISTORY

WERE YOU AROUND YESTERDAY? whistling.gif

Does that really matter :lol:

out dated pap of a record IMO :lol:

No even better half the stuff that you lot bleat about as newies have all either been aired or played on the scene years ago, so there all fucking oldies mate...................

Every single one! :lol:whistling.gif

One last point from me.............

TODAY WOULDN'T EXIST WITHOUT YESTERDAY

YESTERDAY IS HISTORY - YOUR HISTORY - OUR HISTORY

KNOWLEDGE OF YESTERDAY IS KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY

TODAY EXISTS BECAUSE OF YESTERDAYS HISTORY

WERE YOU AROUND YESTERDAY? whistling.gif

:lol::lol:

my weakness should not be your strength. :lol:

its still old fashioned john whether you agree or not.

Shane

good oldies and bad oldies. some date quicker than others. some attach themselves to another era with much more ease than others.

this one should be forgotten about if we are talking about taking things forward, keeping it exciting and cool.

only my opinons.

and stevie z, much as i hate to say this......you have lost me again

Shane

Hi Shane known about what is discussed on this thread many years ago.. like to move things forward...although cannot deny others that only recently know about things ...that happened many many years ago Been there etc

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One last point from me.............

TODAY WOULDN'T EXIST WITHOUT YESTERDAY

YESTERDAY IS HISTORY - YOUR HISTORY - OUR HISTORY

KNOWLEDGE OF YESTERDAY IS KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY

TODAY EXISTS BECAUSE OF YESTERDAYS HISTORY

WERE YOU AROUND YESTERDAY? whistling.gif

But what about your Autumn of Tomorrow? :lol:

(Sorry... couldn't resist :lol: )

This just gets dafter now we are talking about cabaret.............

Cabaret it certainly isn't, so its going to get played again................ whistling.gif

I'm not saying that it is carbaret. It obviously isn't. But there are certain features that push it in that direction and make me at leat not too keen on paying it attention. Len Barry's 123 has been mentioned more than once on this thread. Unlike 123, 'I'll always need you ' doesn't quite make it into the file under soul category in my book.Could have been sung my Cliff Richard quite easily.

I'm surprised someone said Lov Lov Love wasn't played at the Wheel. It was played in Northants when the Wheel was going so was possibly played there first. It was incredibly common in 1969 as it was the flip of the follow up to a number one hit so there were oads of copies. In those days most people played both sides of a record so hundreds of people would have known it, i don't think anyone would claim to be the first. It's Bobby Hebb for me, though I love most of Len's stuff. i don't really go for either version of I'll Always Need You, too poppy like Moses Smith!

I'm surprised someone said Lov Lov Love wasn't played at the Wheel. It was played in Northants when the Wheel was going so was possibly played there first. It was incredibly common in 1969.

Love Love Love has been issued at least twice in the UK. Once as the B side to a Satisfied Mind and then in 72 to cash in on the burgeoning northern scene. Sunny was the B side to this.

Incidentally, love Goldmine or hate em, both Len Barry tracks and the amazing version of WYSLMT by Bunny Sigler are on the recent CD, The Northern Soul of Philadelphia. The sound quality is brilliant unusually for Goldmine, and the tracks featured are nothing short of inspired. Possibly the best ever Goldmine compilation.

Good sleeve notes by Tim Brown as well.

The Bunny Sigler, if played, must surely become a monster.

Heard the Len Barry trax in question for the first time over the weekend thru JM's mailshot. Was eagerly hoping for something magical, especially the Love love love but alas found that Len's vocals were IMHO strained in comparison to Bobby Hebbs rendition. I found the backing tracks very good on all versions but would have to say that overall the Dean Courtney, BH and Joey H versions are more to my liking - not that I wouldn't dance to Lens rendition and yes 123 is pure class so I have nothing against LB.

Talking of love love love whats the opinions of William Bonney's cut - altho I love it I do realise it is a very poppy thing.

I'm surprised someone said Lov Lov Love wasn't played at the Wheel. It was played in Northants when the Wheel was going so was possibly played there first. It was incredibly common in 1969 as it was the flip of the follow up to a number one hit so there were oads of copies. In those days most people played both sides of a record so hundreds of people would have known it, i don't think anyone would claim to be the first. It's Bobby Hebb for me, though I love most of Len's stuff. i don't really go for either version of I'll Always Need You, too poppy like Moses Smith!

I'd bet anything it was played at The Wheel. I certainly heard it when I first got onto the scene, which was in the latter days of the Wheel. It was a well known record.

As for Len Barry, good to hear so much postive feeling towards his stuff. Always thought that It's a crying shame was a fab little groover.

Well done John V for creating maximum interest in a recent purchase thats the way to do it.

Sadly Len's hype doesnt match up to DC's offering. Now that is a rock solid northern classic no arguements. Never actually owned a copy myself so that must say something. What number is it in Kev's Top 500 book?

Stevie Z - see Shades #31 for article on Lou Johnson & his album.

Tony Rounce - love reading your memories of the early days & the Mecca.

its all good fun innit - derek

Len's best is 'I Struck It Rich' and 'Like A Baby' is good too. 1-2-3 is great of course but I've heard it too much in my life.

Whoops, I should say this is Ady not Ken, we get our log-ins mixed occasionally.

Love Love Love has been issued at least twice in the UK. Once as the B side to a Satisfied Mind and then in 72 to cash in on the burgeoning northern scene. Sunny was the B side to this.

Anyone agree that the '72 re-issue was a slightly different mix? Handclaps sounded odd if memory serves...

Could be my memory playing tricks again :shades:

Just listened to the Bunny Sigler nonsense & I`m sorry but it`s whimsical syrupy pap.

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