I've got a 7inch "Jobete Music Company Inc" acetate of Marvin Gaye's "This Love Starved Heart of Mine." How much is this worth? Are there other copies of it? I know it's been a big, well known track, but haven't heard of another acetate... Anyone seen one?

Could you provide us with a scan of this ?

Edited September 6, 201312 yr by tlscapital

I'm unable to do scans. Don't plan on selling it anyway, just curious if there are others.

I'm unable to do scans. Don't plan on selling it anyway, just curious if there are others.

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Take photo with your iPhone?

I'm unable to do scans. Don't plan on selling it anyway, just curious if there are others.

Well, the idea of showing it is to first have a glance at his 'authenticity' before going anywhere else.

Edited September 7, 201312 yr by tlscapital

Just curious, what's on the flip of the acetate? Or is it one-sided only?

Well, the idea of showing it is to first have a glance at his 'authenticity' before going anywhere else.

Well maybe Thomas doesn't want to post a photo up ? I don't think I would either under the circumstances without having it doctored....

Thomas- if it is genuine( and I sincerely hope it is for you), then it'll be worth a lot of money....

Got to be hideously rare. If its the proper thing....

Yours sincerely,

Ivor

Without a picture of it there's no point asking about it.  I could make you a Jobete acetate in a week.  So could anyone else.

I found it, with about 20 others, clearing out my Father's attic. He said he got them from a friend of his who worked for the company and got them out of the Donovan building. So are there no other known ones? That was my main question here. I don't really care what it's worth since I'm not getting rid of it, but I'm 95% sure its genuine considering the source and the others with it. I'll see what I can do in regards to a scan/picture.. Don't have an iPhone so can't do that method.

I found it, with about 20 others, clearing out my Father's attic. He said he got them from a friend of his who worked for the company and got them out of the Donovan building. So are there no other known ones? That was my main question here. I don't really care what it's worth since I'm not getting rid of it, but I'm 95% sure its genuine considering the source and the others with it. I'll see what I can do in regards to a scan/picture.. Don't have an iPhone so can't do that method.

Wow ! I can't be the only one thinking I wish I could find things like that in my loft !

Just out of interest, what other artists/ titles are in the bunch you have Thomas?

I found it, with about 20 others, clearing out my Father's attic. He said he got them from a friend of his who worked for the company and got them out of the Donovan building. So are there no other known ones? That was my main question here. I don't really care what it's worth since I'm not getting rid of it, but I'm 95% sure its genuine considering the source and the others with it. I'll see what I can do in regards to a scan/picture.. Don't have an iPhone so can't do that method.

 

No there are several, I've had half a dozen myself so the actual figure must run into 3 figures.  They are usually white labels, with the title  typed on, and the words Jobete Music.

This was Alan Pollard's Carolyn Crawford acetate which I sold a couple of years back.

I found it, with about 20 others, clearing out my Father's attic. He said he got them from a friend of his who worked for the company and got them out of the Donovan building. So are there no other known ones? That was my main question here. I don't really care what it's worth since I'm not getting rid of it, but I'm 95% sure its genuine considering the source and the others with it. I'll see what I can do in regards to a scan/picture.. Don't have an iPhone so can't do that method.

The provenance certainly sounds good

 

As already said if authenticity is kosher then there are folks who would snap your hand off for it

 

Nice find Thomas

No there are several, I've had half a dozen myself so the actual figure must run into 3 figures.  They are usually white labels, with the title  typed on, and the words Jobete Music.

This was Alan Pollard's Carolyn Crawford acetate which I sold a couple of years back.

Nice sleeve writing, that. :-)

I would like the MG from a collectors perspective, naturally enough, and doubtless it has some 'historical' significance or whatever you wanna call it. Nonetheless, as LSH was issued - assuming its not a different cut - I'm not sure I'd want to pay a great deal for it. (Originals etc... now that would be a whole different ball game).

Great find though Thomas and just my humble opinion obviously.

I now have that Carolyn Crawford Pete, plus a couple of unissued Velvelettes, Marvin's lonely lover and a couple of Temps too. Love em!

Edited September 8, 201312 yr by PhilT

I found it, with about 20 others, clearing out my Father's attic. He said he got them from a friend of his who worked for the company and got them out of the Donovan building. So are there no other known ones? That was my main question here. I don't really care what it's worth since I'm not getting rid of it, but I'm 95% sure its genuine considering the source and the others with it. I'll see what I can do in regards to a scan/picture.. Don't have an iPhone so can't do that method.

I suppose a full listing is not a possible ?

The music from that cut originally came from a tape made by Rod Shard (in 1981) off of a tape I made (in 1978) directly off a Jobete Music acetate (while screening songs for "From The Vaults").  It was a typical mid sixties Jobete acetate, with a faded cream-white, blank label, with "Jobete Music Co." typed on it in black ink, and the song title in red ink.  There was no artist name. 

 

I'm sure that someone in UK taped it off Rod, or Dave Withers, and made some "new" acetates or studio demo copies.  Some years later, the original Motown/Jobete studio demos and acetates found their way into British hands through auctions or direct sales from people who took them out of the company's possession (In 1988 when the company was sold to Universal???). 

 

The original 1960s Motown/Jobete acetates and demos should be VERY valuable.  The early 1980s acetates/demos shouldn't be worth anywhere near those, but they are also dead rare, so I'd guess they'd get what people are willing to pay.  The fact that there was a legitimate? (or, at least mass release) later, with picture jacket (was it around 1990?), will hold down the value those 1981 pressings.

Edited September 8, 201312 yr by RobbK

The original 1960s Motown/Jobete acetates and demos should be VERY valuable.  The early 1980s acetates/demos shouldn't be worth anywhere near those, but they are also dead rare, so I'd guess they'd get what people are willing to pay.  The fact that there was a legitimate? (or, at least mass release) later, with picture jacket (was it around 1990?), will hold down the value those 1981 pressings.

From recollection wasn't the picture sleeve 45 cut as a limited Edition as a free bee at some US Motown promotional event back in the early 1990's?

There was a story doing the rounds that many of them were just discarded by the attendees at the time, as the folks weren't interested in the vinyl.

Or was this just urban myth?

The music from that cut originally came from a tape made by Rod Shard (in 1981) off of a tape I made (in 1978) directly off a Jobete Music acetate (while screening songs for "From The Vaults").  It was a typical mid sixties Jobete acetate, with a faded cream-white, blank label, with "Jobete Music Co." typed on it in black ink, and the song title in red ink.  There was no artist name. 

 

I'm sure that someone in UK taped it off Rod, or Dave Withers, and made some "new" acetates or studio demo copies.  Some years later, the original Motown/Jobete studio demos and acetates found their way into British hands through auctions or direct sales from people who took them out of the company's possession (In 1988 when the company was sold to Universal???). 

 

The original 1960s Motown/Jobete acetates and demos should be VERY valuable.  The early 1980s acetates/demos shouldn't be worth anywhere near those, but they are also dead rare, so I'd guess they'd get what people are willing to pay.  The fact that there was a legitimate? (or, at least mass release) later, with picture jacket (was it around 1990?), will hold down the value those 1981 pressings.

 

I got loads of these off a guy in Detroit in 1989/90. Some great stuff inc many unreleased tracks. I still have most of them.

From recollection wasn't the picture sleeve 45 cut as a limited Edition as a free bee at some US Motown promotional event back in the early 1990's?

There was a story doing the rounds that many of them were just discarded by the attendees at the time, as the folks weren't interested in the vinyl.

Or was this just urban myth?

 

No thats true.  

I got loads of these off a guy in Detroit in 1989/90. Some great stuff inc many unreleased tracks. I still have most of them.

 

I bought two off you, two brilliant ones.  MIdnight Johnny alt mix and Hattie Littles - ~Love heartache and misery or whatever it was called - it was a fantastic take, 100 times better than the one that came out on CD.  I only ever played it out once, then I sold it to Stuart T.  Wish I'd recorded it.

I got loads of these off a guy in Detroit in 1989/90. Some great stuff inc many unreleased tracks. I still have most of them.

 

Is that where the Blinky Edwards 'Til The End Of Time' came from?

 

Regards,

 

Dave

Is that where the Blinky Edwards 'Til The End Of Time' came from?

 

Regards,

 

Dave

 

It is. Sold that.

Edited September 10, 201312 yr by phild

I bought two off you, two brilliant ones.  MIdnight Johnny alt mix and Hattie Littles - ~Love heartache and misery or whatever it was called - it was a fantastic take, 100 times better than the one that came out on CD.  I only ever played it out once, then I sold it to Stuart T.  Wish I'd recorded it.

 

Love, Trouble, Heartache and Misery. That was back in 2000 (where does time go?).

 

I wish I'd recorded it too

I bought two off you, two brilliant ones.  MIdnight Johnny alt mix and Hattie Littles - ~Love heartache and misery or whatever it was called - it was a fantastic take, 100 times better than the one that came out on CD.  I only ever played it out once, then I sold it to Stuart T.  Wish I'd recorded it.

Wow, the best unreleased motown imo - the hattie littles. Always though the backing on the released version was a bit subdued for a motown cut, would love to hear that, or buy it better still.

Wow, the best unreleased motown imo - the hattie littles. Always though the backing on the released version was a bit subdued for a motown cut, would love to hear that, or buy it better still.

 

I played at Brighton at the Volks to no reaction whatsoever, and I'd played it to people like Mick Smith who didn't bat an eyelid so I thought maybe someone else could do a better job with it, think I sold it for 3 or 400 quid, I did record it but if it's anywhere it's on a minidisc and even if I found it, you can't record off a minidisc