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Millionaires Never For Me Odd looking Copy

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  • Gene-r
    Gene-r

    Looks to me like a legit 70s reissue.  "You're The One" by Ronnie Walker was reissued using exactly the same label design and the original stampers.

  • Chris L
    Chris L

    I think there even 2 UK release an early Black Mercury and a later "super styrene" silver one (yuk) but that dark blue US one is a legitimate re-issue. 

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Looks legit to me. Maybe it's just rare on U.S.? Must admit I don't think I've seen many over the years.......

Ian D :)

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13 minutes ago, Ian Dewhirst said:

Looks legit to me. Maybe it's just rare on U.S.? Must admit I don't think I've seen many over the years.......

Ian D :)

Whats really odd is that the copyright verbage around the edge is almost, if not totally, identical to UK releases from the same period

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Looks to me like a legit 70s reissue.  "You're The One" by Ronnie Walker was reissued using exactly the same label design and the original stampers.

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20 hours ago, Kegsy said:

Never seen one like this before, is it a true U.S. copy or just made in the U.S. for somewhere else ?.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Never-For-Me-The-Millionaires-northern-soul-/182130156692?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

I never saw those in USA.  Surely they were made in USA for sale in another country.  The US label never used that design.

Well "Never For Me" was big here in the UK in the early 70's ... so I'd guess they were pressed up & all immediately shipped across here.

This is my Ronnie Walker, a 1970s legitimate re-release and my Canadian Madeline Bell, original release. Quite similar

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39 minutes ago, Roburt said:

Well "Never For Me" was big here in the UK in the early 70's ... so I'd guess they were pressed up & all immediately shipped across here.

It got a UK Mercury release in the early seventies so why would they do that ?

1 hour ago, Kegsy said:

It got a UK Mercury release in the early seventies so why would they do that ?

I think there even 2 UK release an early Black Mercury and a later "super styrene" silver one (yuk) but that dark blue US one is a legitimate re-issue. 

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24 minutes ago, Chris L said:

I think there even 2 UK release an early Black Mercury and a later "super styrene" silver one (yuk) but that dark blue US one is a legitimate re-issue. 

Indeed there was old boy, the question is a legitimate re-issue for where, when and why.

and a very similar layout to the Cat's Eye's Life UK release.....or reissue? I thought it was legit for sure.

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From 1972 onwards Philips USA used this label layout: as others have mentioned it was standardised with the European, British and Canadian labels, including the quasi-legal copyright wording along the top. There's never been a formal standard wording for this in any territory so it would 'apply' anywhere.

The Millionaires 45 mentioned in the original post looks like a completely legit post-1972 reissue. The typesetting of the overprinted text (title, artist, writer credit and catalogue number) is consistent with the US Philips-Mercury factories. Why someone would pay £88 for it is a mystery. 

The last US Philips 45 listed on 45 Cat is L.J. Johnson "Your Magic Put A Spell On Me", an Ian Levine/Danny Leake project from 1976.

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48 minutes ago, garethx said:

From 1972 onwards Philips USA used this label layout: as others have mentioned it was standardised with the European, British and Canadian labels, including the quasi-legal copyright wording along the top. There's never been a formal standard wording for this in any territory so it would 'apply' anywhere.

The Millionaires 45 mentioned in the original post looks like a completely legit post-1972 reissue. The typesetting of the overprinted text (title, artist, writer credit and catalogue number) is consistent with the US Philips-Mercury factories. Why someone would pay £88 for it is a mystery. 

The last US Philips 45 listed on 45 Cat is L.J. Johnson "Your Magic Put A Spell On Me", an Ian Levine/Danny Leake project from 1976.

So, you are saying that from 1973 on, the Philips records issued for sale in the US market all looked exactly like the Canadian and European ones?  I stopped looking for records in USA in early 1972, so that explains why I never saw those.  And if I did see a few in USA when accompanying my British visiting friends on the few scattered post 1972 record scrounging days, I'd have not looked closely at one, thinking it was a foreign post 1972 issue.  I own only a handful of post 1972 records, in any case.

The 5,000 Volts above was pressed at Columbia. By the time Phonogram acquired Philips-Mercury their own pressing plants had gone.

I have the same Philips Millionaires  press and always wondered what the back ground was to the pressing.

It does look odd  especially when you put it alongside the USA first press.

Thanks for the info guys.

Frank

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:ohmy: repressed it should be clearly stamped if Philips.  There are also white demos with red quality !?canadian? ! But if not stamped forget it.:thumbup:

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