Revisiting the awesome sounds of the Salsoul label and I am inquiring of any GOOD CDs out that I can get started with? Also, feel free to let me know of any essential vinyl!

Hi Maverick,

I know of a few Salsoul label tracks.

Eddie Holman - Make this a night to remember...Bside is good too!

Salsoul Orchestra - Nightcrawler..an instrumental

Double Exposure - Ten Per Cent

Double Exposure - Newsy Neighbours..I think is USA issue only

First Choice - Doctor Love...Bside is good

Lolleatta Holloway - Dreaming

Lolleatta Holloway - Hit and Run

I'm sure there must be others...over to you guys

Hi Maverick,

I know of a few Salsoul label tracks.

Eddie Holman - Make this a night to remember...Bside is good too!

Salsoul Orchestra - Nightcrawler..an instrumental

Double Exposure - Ten Per Cent

Double Exposure - Newsy Neighbours..I think is USA issue only

First Choice - Doctor Love...Bside is good

Lolleatta Holloway - Dreaming

Lolleatta Holloway - Hit and Run

I'm sure there must be others...over to you guys

Recommended ......

Logg " I Know You Will "

Skyy " First Time Around "

Jocelyn Brown " Make It Last Forever "

Loleatta Holloway " Catch Me On The Rebound "

Malc Burton

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Is Back On APRIL 21ST

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Edited March 6, 200718 yr by Malc Burton

Recommended ......

Logg " I Know You Will "

Totally agree!!! In fact, the entire Logg LP (reissued on CD in the mid-90s) is good from beginning to end and it is one of my all-time favorite albums.

Dancing Into The Stars - logg - salsoul

15682 refosoul

I'm a sucker for Leroy Burgess-related stuff and this is one of my fave tunes!

Everyman - double exposure - salsoul

15683 refosoul

Let's not forget this fine Double Exposure track.

There's lots of good Salsoul CDs. In fact, there's been a recent series released by a UK label (forgotton the name - sorry) and compiled by Ian Dewhirst. Salsoul: the Best of Salsoul Records is a good start and only costs £5 at the most.

Leroy Burgess "Heartbreaker"

SKyy "Show me the way "

Both top allniter sounds !

10 PER CENT - double exposure - salsoul

15689 refosoul

WOOOOOO

KENI RIGHTOUT / RIGHT NOW

awsome 2step(wish i didnt sell mine,harder to get than i thought 45)

also a 12" with nice extra bit in it.

Love Commitee - Cheaters Never Win - Gold Mind (Salsoul subsiduary) my all time fave.

Jamie

Edited March 6, 200718 yr by Jamie

CANT TAKE IT WITH YOU

GAMBLE ON LOVE

FIRST CHOICE.... DOUBLE A SIDE

ALSO 12" INNER LIFE VERSION OF "AINT NO MOUNTAIN HIGH ENOUGH"

True Example

Floyd Smith

Janice (Don't be so blind to love) - skip mahoney - salsoul

15694 refosoul

Still LOVE this! excellent on 12"

Edited March 6, 200718 yr by Trevski

There's lots of good Salsoul CDs. In fact, there's been a recent series released by a UK label (forgotton the name - sorry) and compiled by Ian Dewhirst. Salsoul: the Best of Salsoul Records is a good start and only costs £5 at the most.

Wasnt there also a couple of Salsoul Mastercut CDs compiled by Ian Dewhirst around the Mid 90s which had some of these tracks on as well??...anybody else got any more Salsoul tracks they would like to post up please I am all ears...thanks Delxx

This is wonderful! And you guys are great! Thanks!

Hi Maverick,

I know of a few Salsoul label tracks.

Eddie Holman - Make this a night to remember...Bside is good too!

Salsoul Orchestra - Nightcrawler..an instrumental

Double Exposure - Ten Per Cent

Double Exposure - Newsy Neighbours..I think is USA issue only

First Choice - Doctor Love...Bside is good

Lolleatta Holloway - Dreaming

Lolleatta Holloway - Hit and Run

I'm sure there must be others...over to you guys

I have heard of the two in BOLD...TEN PERCENT is one of my favorites.

10 PER CENT - double exposure - salsoul

15689 refosoul

WOOOOOO

Excellent! I know many underground DJs that still play that in the dance clubs in NYC.

Love Commitee - Cheaters Never Win - Gold Mind (Salsoul subsiduary) my all time fave.

Jamie

Do you know if Ron Tyson is in this line-up? I am just finding out about them.

Strangers "Step out of my dream" John & Micheal Hill "Your my saving grace"

Blake

Strangers "Step out of my dream" John & Micheal Hill "Your my saving grace"

Blake

This has wetted my appetite ......

When I get my next DJ booking , I am tempted to do a full set entirely of Salsoul releases ......

That will upset the purists .

Malc Burton

Love Commitee - Cheaters Never Win - Gold Mind (Salsoul subsiduary) my all time fave.

Jamie

good version on the Embers Beach Music album too

This has wetted my appetite ......

When I get my next DJ booking , I am tempted to do a full set entirely of Salsoul releases ......

That will upset the purists .

Malc Burton

Malc, trouble is that for most of the new breed of jocks in their 20's & early 30's, thats half of what they know so you could end up being labelled a disco ted if you're not too careful !

Forget all those L.Holloway/First Choice/Salsoul Orch/Gibbons/Levan mixed lates 70's Salsoul tracks, they really are played out beyond belief !

These aren't though : Aurra, Jammers (except Be Mine Tonight), Skyy, Funk Deluxe, Strangers, Sly Cabell, Weeks & Co 'Tunnel, Leroy Burgess Stranger (not the overplayed flip Heartbreaker).

But thats just my opinion of course.

Totally agree!!! In fact, the entire Logg LP (reissued on CD in the mid-90s) is good from beginning to end and it is one of my all-time favorite albums.

Agree with you and Malc re Logg....a must have!

Revisiting the awesome sounds of the Salsoul label...

Moment Of Truth "Helplessly" (originally on Roulette 7") came out on extended Salsoul 12" backed with "So Much For Love" Both fabulous records with a slight throwback feel.

"Wide World Of Sports" by Instant Funk (B-Side of "Got My Mind Made Up" in UK) is a classic Jazz Funk instrumental also.

By the way, does anyone remember Ian Levine playing Carol Williams' "Rattlesnake" at the Mecca in mid-1975? First release on the Salsoul label I think...(?) More Northern Soul sounding than most later releases.

Also, Colin Curtis used to play "Hit Man" by United Image on BRANDING IRON at the Mecca in 1975. United Image later became Double Exposure! - and the official a-side "African Bump" was popular on the London club scene in the late 80's. (Famed Philly arranger Ron Kersey had played keyboards with the group in the early years, apparently)

Incidently, I bought "After All This Time" - a very nice 12" by Double Exposure on Gold Coast, from Rafters DJ John Grant, which I made a point of playing at my 40th Birthday party some years ago! The other side "Yes I'm In Love With You" is a very nice Philly ballad, well worth having.

You can click the following link to their biography if anyone's interested in seeing them posing in jock straps! (don't all rush at once!)

https://www.soulwalking.co.uk/Double%20Exposure.html

Edited March 7, 200718 yr by mel brat

One of my favourite Salsoul albums is Double Exposure's 1976 LP Ten Percent which had three essential soul tracks: "Everyman", "My Love Is Free" and "Baby I Need Your Loving".

Another favourite is "Crying" from Instant Funk's Instant Funk LP (1979) which - surprisingly - featured a great ballad called "Never Let It Go Away".

Paul Mooney

Strangers "Step out of my dream"

Blake

Right on the money with that one Blake - alongside Instant Funk's 'Can You See Where I'm Coming From', my fave on the label.....

Girf

Instant Funk's 'Can You See Where I'm Coming From', my fave on the label.....

Girf

Good shout Gareth, fine track. Overall Instant Funk are way too mediocre tho, you're lucky to get 4 genuinely good tracks out of any of their LP's. The one including Can You See' on it maybe their best of a very average bunch, got a CD reissue of it if anyone needs it.

Oh my word, I just checked Instant Funk V and played their version of wait for it, Hard Days Night by The Beatles. I'd never noticed that before. It's absolutely appalling !!! What was Mr.Sigler thinking of ?Can anyone do an MP3 of it for a laugh, I havent got the facility.

Instant(ly forgettable) Funk (mostly), best tracks for me Bodyshine, Everybody, I'll be good to you (Richie Weeks), It's Cool, You want my love. (Dont want to hear Mind Made Up again thanks).

Incidently, I bought "After All This Time" - a very nice 12" by Double Exposure on Gold Coast, from Rafters DJ John Grant, which I made a point of playing at my 40th Birthday party some years ago! The other side "Yes I'm In Love With You" is a very nice Philly ballad, well worth having.

Malc, trouble is that for most of the new breed of jocks in their 20's & early 30's, thats half of what they know so you could end up being labelled a disco ted if you're not too careful !

Forget all those L.Holloway/First Choice/Salsoul Orch/Gibbons/Levan mixed lates 70's Salsoul tracks, they really are played out beyond belief !

These aren't though : Aurra, Jammers (except Be Mine Tonight), Skyy, Funk Deluxe, Strangers, Sly Cabell, Weeks & Co 'Tunnel, Leroy Burgess Stranger (not the overplayed flip Heartbreaker).

But thats just my opinion of course.

Once again , meant to be tongue in cheek , Martin , tongue in cheek .....

Agreed : the only Salsoul that should be now played are Aurra etc . : I had enough of playing LH etc . the first time around / when they were ' new ' .....

I love the " Disco Ted " part ...... did you mean " Disco Tex " ?

Malc Burton

Another good shout, and for both sides, this is getting worrying, a record from as late as 1981 getting raves on here, about time too !

Whats really unusual about this release is that it would appear to be members of Starpoint playing on it, based on the fact that After is written by two of thier members and both sides are Lionel Job productions. Can anyone shed any light on this ?

Yeah, both sides on that Gold Coast release are great. The 7" mixes that is, too much filling on the 12" cuts. Surprisingly hard-to-find 7" by the way. Don't know anything about the Starpoint connection I'm afraid.

Getaway:Salsoul Orchestra 12" (nice cover of EWF)

Rio De Janeiro:Gary Criss 12" (cheesy blue-eyed disco,but I love it!!!!!)

All About The Paper:Lolleata Holloway 1979 LP track (love her version of this great song)

Rachael......... we need a Salsoul day so we can all hear these recomendations

Blake

KENI RIGHTOUT / RIGHT NOW

awsome 2step(wish i didnt sell mine,harder to get than i thought 45)

also a 12" with nice extra bit in it.

Ive got one Stevee- See you Saturday!

Moment of Truth- You got me hummin

Flashlight LP Canadian Salsoul- with beware shes pulling my strings on it

Alternatively get the Super rare 12" of Beware shes pulling my strings

Hello

Two very good Salsoul CD's - PHILLY SOUL FLAVAS & ESSENTIAL BOOGIE FLAVAS both UK releases, there are also some other good releases in this series.

The 7" mixes that is, too much filling on the 12" cuts.

Why would anyone want this on a 45 when the 12" sides total 12 minutes and 7 seconds !

Surely if a track is that good you want to hear as much of it as possible ?

I'm still trying to figure out that theory.

Once again , meant to be tongue in cheek , Martin , tongue in cheek .....

Agreed : the only Salsoul that should be now played are Aurra etc . : I had enough of playing LH etc . the first time around / when they were ' new ' .....

I love the " Disco Ted " part ...... did you mean " Disco Tex " ?

Malc Burton

No, "Disco Teds" is a London term for younger house-come-disco dj's who fuel their collection with oldies comprising little else other than Larry Levan and Walter Gibbons mixes of records that were Paradise Garage classics, most of which are too tired for me to even consider mentioning here, even tho they maybe great tracks. The same people that think Norman Jay is great..............................

Martin

Rio De Janeiro:Gary Criss 12" (cheesy blue-eyed disco,but I love it!!!!!)

Strange how this has never been popular because lets face it it isnt a lot different to George Duke Brazilian Love Affair which still gets continual raves and sells easy. Theres also an LP to the Gary Criss, Ive got it and the 12" in stock if anyone need them. In fact, got most of the tracks mentioned in this Salsoul forum in stock.

Martin Snow

Strange how this has never been popular because lets face it it isnt a lot different to George Duke Brazilian Love Affair which still gets continual raves and sells easy. Theres also an LP to the Gary Criss, Ive got it and the 12" in stock if anyone need them. In fact, got most of the tracks mentioned in this Salsoul forum in stock.

Martin Snow

Gary Criss "Rio De Janeiro" WAS played on the Jazz Funk/Disco scene in fact, by Graham Warr amongst others (Neil Rushton?) in early 1979. About the same time as Goody Goody etc. It also got a UK 12" release on Carrie if I remember correctly.

Another strange one was Wayne St. John "Something's Up", a British recording I think, released here on STATE but it came out on Salsoul in the US which must have pleased him no end!

(12" also)

I've only just discovered it came out on Canadian RCA 12" also, so somebody must have liked it!

Speaking of Europe, has anyone mentioned Silvetti's "Spring Rain" yet? (Well I still love it anyway!)

Oh, and let's not forget Ripple "The Beat Goes On", which was a massive Ritz anthem in 1977.

Edited March 8, 200718 yr by mel brat

No, "Disco Teds" is a London term for younger house-come-disco dj's who fuel their collection with oldies comprising little else other than Larry Levan and Walter Gibbons mixes of records that were Paradise Garage classics, most of which are too tired for me to even consider mentioning here, even tho they maybe great tracks. The same people that think Norman Jay is great..............................

Martin

Hi Martin .....

Thanks for clarifying the Disco Ted bit ..... I wish I was of that age , but as I am nearing 6T , I am afraid it is not possible .....

Malc Burton

Gary Criss "Rio De Janeiro" WAS played on the Jazz Funk/Disco scene in fact, by Graham Warr amongst others (Neil Rushton?) in early 1979. About the same time as Goody Goody etc. It also got a UK 12" release on Carrie if I remember correctly.

Another strange one was Wayne St. John "Something's Up", a British recording I think, released here on STATE but it came out on Salsoul in the US which must have pleased him no end!

(12" also)

I've only just discovered it came out on Canadian RCA 12" also, so somebody must have liked it!

Speaking of Europe, has anyone mentioned Silvetti's "Spring Rain" yet? (Well I still love it anyway!)

Oh, and let's not forget Ripple "The Beat Goes On", which was a massive Ritz anthem in 1977.

Bebu Silvetti " Spring Rain " ......

It is still a brilliant record : I loved it the first time I heard it , and I never tire of hearing it .....

Malc Burton

Why would anyone want this on a 45 when the 12" sides total 12 minutes and 7 seconds !

Surely if a track is that good you want to hear as much of it as possible ?

I'm still trying to figure out that theory.

Double Exposure's "After All This Time" isn't good enough to last 12+ minutes. Some tunes are, but this one isn't. In my opinion it's perfect at 3:58 length as it has got the key features of the tune and comes off as the good pop song that it is. We obviously differ in opinion and I'm sure we can argue about this at length. Just my opinion.

Edited March 8, 200718 yr by Sebastian

Gary Criss "Rio De Janeiro" WAS played on the Jazz Funk/Disco scene in fact, by Graham Warr amongst others (Neil Rushton?) in early 1979. About the same time as Goody Goody etc. It also got a UK 12" release on Carrie if I remember correctly.

Another strange one was Wayne St. John "Something's Up", a British recording I think, released here on STATE but it came out on Salsoul in the US which must have pleased him no end!

(12" also)

I've only just discovered it came out on Canadian RCA 12" also, so somebody must have liked it!

Speaking of Europe, has anyone mentioned Silvetti's "Spring Rain" yet? (Well I still love it anyway!)

Oh, and let's not forget Ripple "The Beat Goes On", which was a massive Ritz anthem in 1977.

Wayne St John orig release is Canadian, look he even has his own website and he's in the Canadian Music Hall of Fame !!!

https://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:0guLqTT...;cd=1&gl=uk

and heres a funky expedition from 1971 by him, Doug Richardson plays on it !

https://www.funk45.com/Index.asp?funk=music...4&cat=id%20

Silvetti next : I have the Spring Rain LP which is generally pleasant instrumental lounge jazz, with one good uptempo track thats crying out for a re-edit. Might get to work on that shortly. Theres no complete vocal tracks as such, just some scatting here and there.

Bebu Silvetti aka Silvetti (March 27, 1944-July 5, 2003) was an Argentine pianist, composer, arranger and producer best known for the 1976 instrumental Disco hit "Spring Rain". In 1997 he produced a C.D. for a Brazilian vocalist called Roberto Carlos.

[edit] Biography

Bebu Silvetti was born near Buenos Aires and started his piano education at the age of six. During his teenage years he formed his own jazz quartet and a few other musical groups. At 21 Bebu left Argentina to go to Spain where he stayed a few years working as a pianist at some of the most popular jazz clubs of the time. In the early 70's he moved to Mexico and started arranging and composing. Upon his return to Spain some years later, he recorded his first album, which contained his mega hit "Spring Rain". Other albums followed. Silvetti returned to Mexico in the late 70's, he continued arranging, composing and producing mostly for other artists.

During his long and prolific career, he produced, arranged, and composed for a wide variety of Latin and international artists, including Pl¡cido Domingo, Luis Miguel, Paul Anka, Engelbert Humperdinck, Vikki Carr, and Marco Antonio Sol­s.

Bebu was the recipient of the Grammy, Billboard and many other awards throughout his lifetime.

Bebu Silvetti died in Miami at age 57 from respiratory failure caused by complications from his lung cancer treatment.

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bebu_Silvetti"

Double Exposure's "After All This Time" isn't good enough to last 12+ minutes. Some tunes are, but this one isn't. In my opinion it's perfect at 3:58 length as it has got the key features of the tune and comes off as the good pop song that it is. We obviously differ in opinion and I'm sure we can argue about this at length. Just my opinion.

Sebastian, of course its not good enough to last 12 minutes mate, and it doesnt, thats the total of both sides added together on the 12" inch my friend !!! 6.20 + 5.47 !!!

Sebastian, of course its not good enough to last 12 minutes mate, and it doesnt, thats the total of both sides added together on the 12" inch my friend !!! 6.20 + 5.47 !!!

6:20 is bad enough...

Nah, it's all good, just splitting hairs here. I wouldn't exactly COMPLAIN if I heard the 12" version somewhere, it's just that I prefer the shorter mix. Plus it's cheaper!

Silvetti next : I have the Spring Rain LP which is generally pleasant instrumental lounge jazz, with one good uptempo track thats crying out for a re-edit. Might get to work on that shortly. Theres no complete vocal tracks as such, just some scatting here and there.

Thanks for that. I had no idea he was Brazilian. Always assumed he was Italian (because of his name probably) You don't hear string arrangements like on "Spring Rain" anymore either! Great stuff - but I remember it as being 1977, not 1976...?

Despite his somewhat off-putting name(!), Wayne St. John sings pretty well in fact, however his vocal suffers somewhat in the mix of "Something's Up" being given no more prominence than the backing track. Nonetheless, I've kept my copy (on State) all these years, so...

Edited March 8, 200718 yr by mel brat

6:20 is bad enough...

Nah, it's all good, just splitting hairs here. I wouldn't exactly COMPLAIN if I heard the 12" version somewhere, it's just that I prefer the shorter mix. Plus it's cheaper!

I never even SAW the 7" anyway, so that's that! What about the ballad B-Side though? Is that longer on the 12" too? (I've got a thing for nice ballads on 12", as they often have an extra verse, as with the stupendous Margie Alexander wailer on Chi-Sound, and the Reflections on RCA) Hang on.I sense another thread coming along...

Edited March 8, 200718 yr by mel brat

Moment of Truth- You got me hummin

Flashlight LP Canadian Salsoul- with beware shes pulling my strings on it

Alternatively get the Super rare 12" of Beware shes pulling my strings

I didn't now Flashlight came out on Canadian Salsoul,I have the LP & THE 12" (is it that rare?) and they are both on Philly Groove!.

Another favourite is "Crying" from Instant Funk's Instant Funk LP (1979) which - surprisingly - featured a great ballad called "Never Let It Go Away".

Paul Mooney

That LP has I GOT MY MIND MADE UP on it also, doesn't it?

Rachael......... we need a Salsoul day so we can all hear these recomendations

Blake

OH YES! Great idea!

Hello

Two very good Salsoul CD's - PHILLY SOUL FLAVAS & ESSENTIAL BOOGIE FLAVAS both UK releases, there are also some other good releases in this series.

Thank you..I will note that!

Wayne St John orig release is Canadian, look he even has his own website and he's in the Canadian Music Hall of Fame !!!

https://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:0guLqTT...;cd=1&gl=uk

and heres a funky expedition from 1971 by him, Doug Richardson plays on it !

https://www.funk45.com/Index.asp?funk=music...4&cat=id%20

Silvetti next : I have the Spring Rain LP which is generally pleasant instrumental lounge jazz, with one good uptempo track thats crying out for a re-edit. Might get to work on that shortly. Theres no complete vocal tracks as such, just some scatting here and there.

Bebu Silvetti aka Silvetti (March 27, 1944-July 5, 2003) was an Argentine pianist, composer, arranger and producer best known for the 1976 instrumental Disco hit "Spring Rain". In 1997 he produced a C.D. for a Brazilian vocalist called Roberto Carlos.

[edit] Biography

Bebu Silvetti was born near Buenos Aires and started his piano education at the age of six. During his teenage years he formed his own jazz quartet and a few other musical groups. At 21 Bebu left Argentina to go to Spain where he stayed a few years working as a pianist at some of the most popular jazz clubs of the time. In the early 70's he moved to Mexico and started arranging and composing. Upon his return to Spain some years later, he recorded his first album, which contained his mega hit "Spring Rain". Other albums followed. Silvetti returned to Mexico in the late 70's, he continued arranging, composing and producing mostly for other artists.

During his long and prolific career, he produced, arranged, and composed for a wide variety of Latin and international artists, including Pl¡cido Domingo, Luis Miguel, Paul Anka, Engelbert Humperdinck, Vikki Carr, and Marco Antonio Sol­s.

Bebu was the recipient of the Grammy, Billboard and many other awards throughout his lifetime.

Bebu Silvetti died in Miami at age 57 from respiratory failure caused by complications from his lung cancer treatment.

Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bebu_Silvetti"

Here's one that was prepared earlier .....

Always liked the original title of the record .... " Lluvia De Primavera "

Malc Burton

Edited March 8, 200718 yr by Malc Burton

Strange how this has never been popular because lets face it it isnt a lot different to George Duke Brazilian Love Affair which still gets continual raves and sells easy. Theres also an LP to the Gary Criss, Ive got it and the 12" in stock if anyone need them. In fact, got most of the tracks mentioned in this Salsoul forum in stock.

Martin Snow

Gary Criss " Rio De Janeiro " ........ Top side .

All these mentions of Salsoul sides , but not a mention of one of the campest disco sides - if not the campest - ....... " Dance A Little Bit Closer " by Charo .

Camp it may be , but very evocotive of the era it came from .

The two named artists are pictured below : Charo is the one with the long blonde hair .....

Malc Burton

Edited March 8, 200718 yr by Malc Burton

Gary Criss " Rio De Janeiro " ........ Top side .

All these mentions of Salsoul sides , but not a mention of one of the campest disco sides - if not the campest - ....... " Dance A Little Bit Closer " by Charo .

Camp it may be , but very evocotive of the era it came from .

The two named artists are pictured below : Charo is the one with the long blonde hair .....

Malc Burton

"Dance A Little Bit Closer" is misteriosly similar to Modulations "I Can't Fight Your Love", which was recorded before..

Any comments on this?

Ok, i prefer the modulations one tho. top track!