Ok a few peeps have expressed an interest in northern but know nothing whatsoever so I've made up a cd to hopefully reflect different aspects but I'd like opinions on what should stay and what should leave the listing lol.. and obviously what should enter.. how would you do it... anyway here is my cd listing

Majestics - I Love Her So Much It Hurts

Charades - Key To My Happiness

Martha Reeves - No One There

Mandrill - Too Late

Dottie And Millie - Talkin' About My Baby

Dee Clark - That's My Girl

Dean Parrish - Broken Bottles And Sticks

Showmen - Our Love Will Grow

Christine Coooper - Heartaches Away My Boy

Four Tops - Something About You

Etta James - Seven Day Fool

Temptations - Girl Why You Wanna Make Me Blue

Seven Souls - I Still Love You

Shane Martin - I Need You

Sidney Joe Quails - I Don't Do This

Moses Smith - The Girl Across The Street

Epitome Of Sound - You Don't Love Me

Ann Sexton - You've Been Gone Too Long

Dells - Run For Cover

Prince Philip Mitchell - I'm So Happy

Marvin Gave - This Love Starved Heart Of Mine It's Killing Me

Bobby Womack - Home Is Where The Heart Is

Jackie Wilson - Because Of You

Gladys Knight And the Pips - Here Are The Pieces Of My Broken Heart

Billy Storm - Educated Fool

Junior Walker And The All Stars - Tune Up

Salvadors - Stick By Me Baby

Spellbinders - Help Me Get Myself Back Together Again

Jackie Wilson - I've Lost You

George Blackwell - Can't Lose My Head

Jimmy Bo Horne - I Just Can't Speak

Is it good to go or how would you improve it.. what would you replace etc etc.. many thanks

Edited June 15, 200816 yr by pinkyperky

Ok a few peeps have expressed an interest in northern but know nothing whatsoever so I've made up a cd to hopefully reflect different aspects but I'd like opinions on what should stay and what should leave the listing lol.. and obviously what should enter.. how would you do it... anyway here is my cd listing

Majestics - I Love Her So Much It Hurts

Charades - Key To My Happiness

Martha Reeves - No One There

Mandrill - Too Late

Dottie And Millie - Talkin' About My Baby

Dee Clark - That's My Girl

Dean Parrish - Broken Bottles And Sticks

Showmen - Our Love Will Grow

Christine Coooper - Heartaches Away My Boy

Four Tops - Something About You

Etta James - Seven Day Fool

Temptations - Girl Why You Wanna Make Me Blue

Seven Souls - I Still Love You

Shane Martin - I Need You

Sidney Joe Quails - I Don't Do This

Moses Smith - The Girl Across The Street

Epitome Of Sound - You Don't Love Me

Ann Sexton - You've Been Gone Too Long

Dells - Run For Cover

Prince Philip Mitchell - I'm So Happy

Marvin Gave - This Love Starved Heart Of Mine It's Killing Me

Bobby Womack - Home Is Where The Heart Is

Jackie Wilson - Because Of You

Gladys Knight And the Pips - Here Are The Pieces Of My Broken Heart

Billy Storm - Educated Fool

Junior Walker And The All Stars - Tune Up

Salvadors - Stick By Me Baby

Spellbinders - Help Me Get Myself Back Together Again

Jackie Wilson - I've Lost You

George Blackwell - Can't Lose My Head

Jimmy Bo Horne - I Just Can't Speak

Is it good to go or how would you improve it.. what would you replace etc etc.. many thanks

A bloke in work asked me to do the same for him and I used 17 of the tracks you have. Some of the different ones are:

The Champion - Willie Mitchell

I Feel Love Coming On - Felice Taylor

It'll Never Be Over For Me - Timi Yuro

Looking For You - Garnet Mimms

I Travel Alone - Lou Ragland and

Queen Of Fools - Barbara Mills.

Ok a few peeps have expressed an interest in northern but know nothing whatsoever so I've made up a cd to hopefully reflect different aspects but I'd like opinions on what should stay and what should leave the listing lol.. and obviously what should enter.. how would you do it... anyway here is my cd listing

Majestics - I Love Her So Much It Hurts

Charades - Key To My Happiness

Martha Reeves - No One There

Mandrill - Too Late

Dottie And Millie - Talkin' About My Baby

Dee Clark - That's My Girl

Dean Parrish - Broken Bottles And Sticks

Showmen - Our Love Will Grow

Christine Coooper - Heartaches Away My Boy

Four Tops - Something About You

Etta James - Seven Day Fool

Temptations - Girl Why You Wanna Make Me Blue

Seven Souls - I Still Love You

Shane Martin - I Need You

Sidney Joe Quails - I Don't Do This

Moses Smith - The Girl Across The Street

Epitome Of Sound - You Don't Love Me

Ann Sexton - You've Been Gone Too Long

Dells - Run For Cover

Prince Philip Mitchell - I'm So Happy

Marvin Gave - This Love Starved Heart Of Mine It's Killing Me

Bobby Womack - Home Is Where The Heart Is

Jackie Wilson - Because Of You

Gladys Knight And the Pips - Here Are The Pieces Of My Broken Heart

Billy Storm - Educated Fool

Junior Walker And The All Stars - Tune Up

Salvadors - Stick By Me Baby

Spellbinders - Help Me Get Myself Back Together Again

Jackie Wilson - I've Lost You

George Blackwell - Can't Lose My Head

Jimmy Bo Horne - I Just Can't Speak

Is it good to go or how would you improve it.. what would you replace etc etc.. many thanks

Wow!

So much too choose from.

If the idea is to give a whirlwind tour of all that is our scene I reckon thats a cracking choice mate. They'll be those that have other views - but I reckon you done well good.

Peter

Wow!

So much too choose from.

If the idea is to give a whirlwind tour of all that is our scene I reckon thats a cracking choice mate. They'll be those that have other views - but I reckon you done well good.

Peter

did one not too long ago for someone...

gloria jones - come go with me

gloria jones tainted love

laura greene - moonlight music and you

jackie trent - you baby

salvadores - stick by me baby

ringleaders - baby what has happened to our love

erma franklin - sweetest feeling

cashemeres - showstopper

lynne randell - stranger in my arms

carstairs - it really hurts me girl

bobby hebb - love love love

wall of sound - hang on

collins and collins - at the top of the stairs

joannie sommers - dont pity me

epitome of sound - you dont love me

ruby andrews - just loving you

sam williams - love slipped thru my fingers

danny moore - somebody new

lost soul - a secret of mine

brothers - are you ready foir this

cody marshall - the thought of loving you

lou ragland - i travel alone

judy street - what

tobi legend - time will pass you by

phonetics - just a boys dream

august and deneen - we go together

peggy march - if you loved me

...she loved it!!

Edited June 15, 200816 yr by grant

Nice one Some nice choices

Just lose DOTTIE & MILLIE please

Thanks for the feedback guys.. I've replaced Dottie And Millie with Lou Ragland FrostyJak. Its like picking the England football squad this... you can pick only so many

WHAT!!!!! No Doni Burdick and the absolutely utterly totally one and only proper northern inst ever BARI TRACK???? You need to find a place for this. NOW!!!!

did one not too long ago for someone...

gloria jones - come go with me

gloria jones tainted love

laura greene - moonlight music and you

jackie trent - you baby

salvadores - stick by me baby

ringleaders - baby what has happened to our love

erma franklin - sweetest feeling

cashemeres - showstopper

lynne randell - stranger in my arms

carstairs - it really hurts me girl

bobby hebb - love love love

wall of sound - hang on

collins and collins - at the top of the stairs

joannie sommers - dont pity me

epitome of sound - you dont love me

ruby andrews - just loving you

sam williams - love slipped thru my fingers

danny moore - somebody new

lost soul - a secret of mine

brothers - are you ready foir this

cody marshall - the thought of loving you

lou ragland - i travel alone

judy street - what

tobi legend - time will pass you by

phonetics - just a boys dream

august and deneen - we go together

peggy march - if you loved me

...she loved it!!

Yep - I think that's a good selection too! Nice one.

Peter

Not a bad selection plus it would be nice to add a few Modern, R & B maybe with the 60's oldies to show how Northern has changed over the years. i would say at least 18 oldies from 60's a few R & B and at least 5 modern tunes. nothing wrong if you add at least something like Drizabone - Pressure but i would add Sam Cooke - Sugar Dumpling aswell cause it's a top Northern tune but also done by a soul legend that maybe they know but not his Northern output

my friend who is like 40 she didn't know Sugar Dumpling was Northern soul and yet she told me she loved the track years ago and only thought of it as soul

what about...etta james/7 day fool or charles sheffield/mojo working....dont send nobody else/ace spectrum,wanna give you tomorrow/benny troy,....or even....dare i say it....sydney barnes/standing on solid ground !!...it may have been produced by mr levine somepeoples anti christ but its argueablly one of the biggest floorfillers of the decade...is it not ?

Ya got to squeeze the Right Track in surely

Ok a few peeps have expressed an interest in northern but know nothing whatsoever so I've made up a cd to hopefully reflect different aspects but I'd like opinions on what should stay and what should leave the listing lol.. and obviously what should enter.. how would you do it... anyway here is my cd listing

Majestics - I Love Her So Much It Hurts

Charades - Key To My Happiness

Martha Reeves - No One There

Mandrill - Too Late

Dottie And Millie - Talkin' About My Baby

Dee Clark - That's My Girl

Dean Parrish - Broken Bottles And Sticks

Showmen - Our Love Will Grow

Christine Coooper - Heartaches Away My Boy

Four Tops - Something About You

Etta James - Seven Day Fool

Temptations - Girl Why You Wanna Make Me Blue

Seven Souls - I Still Love You

Shane Martin - I Need You

Sidney Joe Quails - I Don't Do This

Moses Smith - The Girl Across The Street

Epitome Of Sound - You Don't Love Me

Ann Sexton - You've Been Gone Too Long

Dells - Run For Cover

Prince Philip Mitchell - I'm So Happy

Marvin Gave - This Love Starved Heart Of Mine It's Killing Me

Bobby Womack - Home Is Where The Heart Is

Jackie Wilson - Because Of You

Gladys Knight And the Pips - Here Are The Pieces Of My Broken Heart

Billy Storm - Educated Fool

Junior Walker And The All Stars - Tune Up

Salvadors - Stick By Me Baby

Spellbinders - Help Me Get Myself Back Together Again

Jackie Wilson - I've Lost You

George Blackwell - Can't Lose My Head

Jimmy Bo Horne - I Just Can't Speak

Is it good to go or how would you improve it.. what would you replace etc etc.. many thanks

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I think it's a great introduction, particularly now that you've got rid of Dottie and Millie

I gave someone at work a CD yesterday... they told me they are in to music..

got an email from them today about the CD..

Paul! The CD is great!

Jeez, the lyrics are so simple but really honest and raw - and even when they're tragic they're toe tapping. It's amazing! Plain words that really get to the core of an emotion or situation is such a skill... And then there's awesome musicianship on top of it - bloody hell! Thank you!

Made me feel quite good about the love we have of our music...

I gave someone at work a CD yesterday... they told me they are in to music..

got an email from them today about the CD..

Paul! The CD is great!

Jeez, the lyrics are so simple but really honest and raw - and even when they're tragic they're toe tapping. It's amazing! Plain words that really get to the core of an emotion or situation is such a skill... And then there's awesome musicianship on top of it - bloody hell! Thank you!

Made me feel quite good about the love we have of our music...

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And you liked sex in the city...............

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And you liked sex in the city...............

I did and yes I cried on the bridge bit

I'm at one with my girly side...

Cd I gave out cover attached

Ok a few peeps have expressed an interest in northern but know nothing whatsoever so I've made up a cd to hopefully reflect different aspects but I'd like opinions on what should stay and what should leave the listing lol.. and obviously what should enter.. how would you do it... anyway here is my cd listing

Majestics - I Love Her So Much It Hurts

Charades - Key To My Happiness

Martha Reeves - No One There

Mandrill - Too Late

Dottie And Millie - Talkin' About My Baby

Dee Clark - That's My Girl

Dean Parrish - Broken Bottles And Sticks

Showmen - Our Love Will Grow

Christine Coooper - Heartaches Away My Boy

Four Tops - Something About You

Etta James - Seven Day Fool

Temptations - Girl Why You Wanna Make Me Blue

Seven Souls - I Still Love You

Shane Martin - I Need You

Sidney Joe Quails - I Don't Do This

Moses Smith - The Girl Across The Street

Epitome Of Sound - You Don't Love Me

Ann Sexton - You've Been Gone Too Long

Dells - Run For Cover

Prince Philip Mitchell - I'm So Happy

Marvin Gave - This Love Starved Heart Of Mine It's Killing Me

Bobby Womack - Home Is Where The Heart Is

Jackie Wilson - Because Of You

Gladys Knight And the Pips - Here Are The Pieces Of My Broken Heart

Billy Storm - Educated Fool

Junior Walker And The All Stars - Tune Up

Salvadors - Stick By Me Baby

Spellbinders - Help Me Get Myself Back Together Again

Jackie Wilson - I've Lost You

George Blackwell - Can't Lose My Head

Jimmy Bo Horne - I Just Can't Speak

Is it good to go or how would you improve it.. what would you replace etc etc.. many thanks

no offence but you state you reflect all aspects of the scene with your list but all that list reflects to me is your bog standard oldies night.

Edited June 17, 200816 yr by chalky

no offence but you state you reflect all aspects of the scene with your list but all that list reflects to me is your bog standard oldies night.

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they're not oldies to someone who's never heard them Chalks, you're looking at it from your perspective, not a newbies?

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they're not oldies to someone who's never heard them Chalks, you're looking at it from your perspective, not a newbies?

I was about to say the same thing! Was it not some of the records listed above that got you hooked on NS in the first place?

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they're not oldies to someone who's never heard them Chalks, you're looking at it from your perspective, not a newbies?

I know full well they are not oldies to someone who hasn't heard them but the list isn't a true reflection of the northern soul scene. There's nothing in there that list genuinely reflect the discoveries made in the stafford era, records from this era are very promoinent in many dj's playlists/sets. There's little in the list that reflects the crossover and modern scenes either..

I was about to say the same thing! Was it not some of the records listed above that got you hooked on NS in the first place?

yes they did get me hooked in the first place and I still love them. Don't get me wrong the cd is an excellent list of tracks for someone who doesn't know the scene at all but the original post said the list reflects the different aspects of the soul scene when it doesn't.

Edited June 17, 200816 yr by chalky

Dee Clark - That's My Girl

If only i'd have heard that sooner.

Just a few I'd put in:

Dusty Springfield - What's It Gonna Be

Salvadors - Stick By Me Baby

Younghearts - A Little Togetherness

John Lee Hooker - Money

Barbara Lynn - I'm A Good Woman

Delegates of Soul - I'll Come Running Back

Louis Jones - Come On Home

John & Carol - Get Your Hat

Gene Chandler - There Was A Time

Originals - Suspicion

Larry Williams & Johnny Guitar Watson - Too Late

Being fairly young myself it took me a while to get onto some of the above songs and since hearing them they've always been listened to ALOT, i think with new people its about sustaining an interest, when i was given premade compilations i always found it tiring and annoying listening to some songs surrounded by more cheesey ones, then again if you were looking to educate new people i suppose this CD would be completely different.

Di makes a bloody good CD!

Matt

Chalky..

When i done the Cd I gave out.. I found it quite hard to express so many differnt sounds in 25 songs..

if you put a real mix on .. the person hearing it for the first time would not really get a taste of the music as it would change to much.. and then you would have to explain it to them..

where as I thought give them a taster first.. then the next CD I give them would be more open minded with a couple of new releases even.. so then they would understand how it all fits in..

by the way the person who I gave the Cd to yesterday as asked if I have any more.. and asked where there are clubs she could go to!!!

my job is done..

Chalky..

When i done the Cd I gave out.. I found it quite hard to express so many differnt sounds in 25 songs..

if you put a real mix on .. the person hearing it for the first time would not really get a taste of the music as it would change to much.. and then you would have to explain it to them..

where as I thought give them a taster first.. then the next CD I give them would be more open minded with a couple of new releases even.. so then they would understand how it all fits in..

by the way the person who I gave the Cd to yesterday as asked if I have any more.. and asked where there are clubs she could go to!!!

my job is done..

I can understand where you are all comijg from but all I was doing was disagreeing with the statement that the list reflected the different aspects of the scene.

You could easilky knock up a cd with say 15 wigan and earlier and 15 from the 80's to nowadays discoveries (60's that is).

There's enough wigan type oldies mentioned already so here's 15 from me, all easily available via cyberspace which represent the last 20 years IMHO.

Jesse James - Love Is Alright

Ann Robinson (not) - World Of Happiness

Mello Souls - We Can MAke It

Eddie Whitehead - Just Your Fool

Johnny Praye - Too Much Love

Parliaments - This Is My Rainy Day

Eddie Parker - I Need A True Love

Inspirations - Treat Myself To A New Love

Emory & Dynamics - Lets Take A Look

Diane Lewis - You Ain't Got A Chance

Stormie Wynters - Lifesaver

Ad-Libs - You'll Always Be In Style

Tommy Ridgely - My Love Gets Stronger

James Lately - Love Friends & Money

Saints - I'll Let You Slide

Edited June 17, 200816 yr by chalky

I know full well they are not oldies to someone who hasn't heard them but the list isn't a true reflection of the northern soul scene. There's nothing in there that list genuinely reflect the discoveries made in the stafford era, records from this era are very promoinent in many dj's playlists/sets. There's little in the list that reflects the crossover and modern scenes either..

I think Chalky is quite correct in saying it doesn't reflect all aspects of the scene. But it sure does reflect most aspects of Northern Soul is, doesn't it? Even though I like Northern Soul with all its niches, be they R&B/crossover/beat ballads/nu soul/soulful dance, whatever, if an "outsider" asks me for a CD about Northern Soul, 90% of my picks would be from the NS Top 500.

no offence but you state you reflect all aspects of the scene with your list but all that list reflects to me is your bog standard oldies night.

Looks like a Brighouse Ritz playlist. I know where you all coming from, and they are not oldies to someone who knows nothing, etc, but... If they go out expecting to hear these tunes, it will be to an oldies night and they could get stuck in that rut. Include a few that are not typical oldies nite fodder, so when they don't hear 'em out, they might enquire as to why?. This may then broaden their horizon somewhat.

I know there is an old saying that goes "Familiarity breeds contempt" But I disagree. I think its more a case of "Familiarity equals Comfort Blanket"  The majority of people like what they know, want to hear what they know, go where they know with who they know. That is why the oldies/nostalgia scene florishes. Start someone off down that road without an alternative view........

Edited June 17, 200816 yr by Trevski

I gave someone at work a CD yesterday... they told me they are in to music..

got an email from them today about the CD..

Paul! The CD is great!

Jeez, the lyrics are so simple but really honest and raw - and even when they're tragic they're toe tapping. It's amazing! Plain words that really get to the core of an emotion or situation is such a skill... And then there's awesome musicianship on top of it - bloody hell! Thank you!

Made me feel quite good about the love we have of our music...

A couple of stories on the same line Mischief, a guy I work with who is a self confessed rock nut has just come back from holiday where he told me one night at the hotel that he was staying at 3 American guys who were masquerading as a Jackie Wilson tribute group were the entertainment he said to me " Kev, I couldn,t sit f-----g still, that music is awesome, I danced all night". On another occasion many moons ago, the football team That I played for played a game in Sheffield which was about a 2-3 hour trip for us we stayed after the game for a session (as you do) on departure at 11-30 I produced a tape that someone had given me at a niter and gave it to the bus driver to stick on, within 10 minutes the volume was at full blast and the bus practically rocked from one side of the motorway to the other all of the way back to Aycliffe and out of about 30 people on the bus I was the only one who frequented soul venues. Soul is the only music that can randomly move people IMHO.

Regards

Kev

I think Chalky is quite correct in saying it doesn't reflect all aspects of the scene. But it sure does reflect most aspects of Northern Soul is, doesn't it? Even though I like Northern Soul with all its niches, be they R&B/crossover/beat ballads/nu soul/soulful dance, whatever, if an "outsider" asks me for a CD about Northern Soul, 90% of my picks would be from the NS Top 500.

"so I've made up a cd to hopefully reflect different aspects" .. I never said ALL respects so even though I know where Chalky is coming from I just wanted to make up a simple cd without all the Do I Love You.. Out On The Floor stuff

Ok a few peeps have expressed an interest in northern but know nothing whatsoever so I've made up a cd to hopefully reflect different aspects but I'd like opinions on what should stay and what should leave the listing lol.. and obviously what should enter.. how would you do it... anyway here is my cd listing

Majestics - I Love Her So Much It Hurts

Charades - Key To My Happiness

Martha Reeves - No One There

Mandrill - Too Late

Dottie And Millie - Talkin' About My Baby

Dee Clark - That's My Girl

Dean Parrish - Broken Bottles And Sticks

Showmen - Our Love Will Grow

Christine Coooper - Heartaches Away My Boy

Four Tops - Something About You

Etta James - Seven Day Fool

Temptations - Girl Why You Wanna Make Me Blue

Seven Souls - I Still Love You

Shane Martin - I Need You

Sidney Joe Quails - I Don't Do This

Moses Smith - The Girl Across The Street

Epitome Of Sound - You Don't Love Me

Ann Sexton - You've Been Gone Too Long

Dells - Run For Cover

Prince Philip Mitchell - I'm So Happy

Marvin Gave - This Love Starved Heart Of Mine It's Killing Me

Bobby Womack - Home Is Where The Heart Is

Jackie Wilson - Because Of You

Gladys Knight And the Pips - Here Are The Pieces Of My Broken Heart

Billy Storm - Educated Fool

Junior Walker And The All Stars - Tune Up

Salvadors - Stick By Me Baby

Spellbinders - Help Me Get Myself Back Together Again

Jackie Wilson - I've Lost You

George Blackwell - Can't Lose My Head

Jimmy Bo Horne - I Just Can't Speak

Is it good to go or how would you improve it.. what would you replace etc etc.. many thanks

I think it's a perfect starting point. It's very similar to the stuff I was given when I didn't know what northern was. I still believe the oldies are the best and that's why they were picked up and became massive the first time round. Very rarely do I hear new 6T's stuff that has the quality of many 'oldies'. And as a starting point, it's perfect.

If you give a newbie a load of newer stuff or niter stuff, I think you'll lose them from the start.

Be better if Gene Toones was on there though.. lol..

Jayne.x.

p.s. swop dean parrish for ramsey lewis too!..

For me, hearing Barbara Lynn - You're Losing Me for the first time would be fantastic!

P

Pinkyperks.......i think the c.d is just about right. We could all gogo on about adding this or that, yet there is quality in there and enough catchy stuff to get even the most decerning of ears to listen to at least some of the stuff.

One thing i will add, is it would be nice to give a neutral, this c.d and another c.d with rarer soul-RnB tunes on it, to see which they preferred???

without being poisoned by traditional "northern" first.

Nice one Some nice choices

Just lose DOTTIE & MILLIE please

Is right ! Fecking awful tune ! But the b side "nothing in this world" is ok...........

Well in terms of adding the top 500 what top 500. There was 2 books well technically 3 but if you actually look at the first book and the 3rd revised one you notice entries have changed. Sam Cooke - Sugar dumpling was only in the revised update book so if you using the first top 500 book is that correct when the 3rd one has some different choices in it.

I gave someone at work a CD yesterday... they told me they are in to music..

got an email from them today about the CD..

Paul! The CD is great!

Jeez, the lyrics are so simple but really honest and raw - and even when they're tragic they're toe tapping. It's amazing! Plain words that really get to the core of an emotion or situation is such a skill... And then there's awesome musicianship on top of it - bloody hell! Thank you!

Made me feel quite good about the love we have of our music...

I remembered this thread so a quick update, the person I gave the CD to, asked for another one!!!

so I just done one gonna pop it in to them tomorrow..

They have asked me about going to a do.. but not sure about that don't like home life and work ife to meet

1. HOT SUNSHINE - BARRIE JAMES

2. I CAN'T USE YOU GIRL - THE VANGUARDS

3. WHEN YOUR LOVE HAS GONE - DEON JACKSON

4. RUN BABY - CAROL FORD

5. WHO IS YOUR LOVER - BOBBY POWELL

6. YOU CAN'T OUTSMART A WOMAN - KELL OSBORNE

7. HAPPY DAYS - LEE LaMONT

8. SWEET LITTLE GIRL - WINFIELD PARKER

9. ON A HOT SUMMER DAY - RICARDO KING

10. TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY - JIMMY LOVE

11. I FOUND JOY - JOHNNY MOFFETT

12. ONLY TRUE LOVE - LEE HARVEY

13. THERE ARE NO STRANGERS - LOUIE ROBERTS

14. SO BLUE - LITTLE MILTON

15. I JUST CAN'T STAND IT - MALIBUS

16. RAINDROPS, LOVE AND SUNSHINE - ROBERT JOHN

17. TRYING TO LOVE TWO - WILIAM BELL

18. BEWARE - LOU COURTNEY

19. YOU BRING THE SUN IN THE MORNING - FAY HAUSER

20. GOT TO GET TO KNOW YOU - THE MOMENTS

21. TOO HURT TO CRY - CANDI STATON

22. I'VE GOT TO MAKE IT ON MY OWN - DETROIT SPINNERS

23. ALL I NEED IS YOU TONIGHT - ARTHUR PRYSOCK

24. I JUST DROPPED IN TO SEE WHAT CONDITION ETC.. - SHARON JONES

25. YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU - STAN MARTIN

26. PLASE STAY DON'T GO - JESUS ALVAREZ

27. DO IT TO ME - HECTOR RIVERA

28. IT ONLY HAPPENS WHEN I LOOK AT YOU - JACKIE WILSON

29. SO LONG GOODBYE - GEORGE TORRENCE

see how it goes

Pinkyperky if you read this how did yours go down?

This is a great subject and giving someone a cd of totally whats being played at allniters now would be a complete waste of effort because the tunes alone wouldn't hook them in they haven't got the quality of the original tunes what got people hooked un 60/70's.

That would be like giving a cd with what's big at the moment in 1975 at Wigan or in 1970 whats big at the Twisted Wheel or the Catacombs or in 72 the Mecca or the Torch.

All these cd's would lack pure quality because the original sounds will take some beating the scene would never have got off the ground with what's played now.

What I mean by that a cd for new comers should have at least 50% classics to help introduce newcomers because thats what they beleive northern soul is.ie a cd for newcomers in1972 would contain Twisted Wheel classics etc.1975 would contain Twisted Wheel Catacombs Torch etc.

I know we all have our own opinions what are classics most of them are probably judged at the point when we entered the scene which is normal .

I also know forward thinking dj's will want to push the new discoveries forward that's right and natural for allniter regulars but not for new comers.New comers will need a bit more gentle breaking in and even old comers,so back to the cd it needs both old and only the very best of the new because most of the new will be forgotten in a year,history tells us this.

This is not a personal go at new sounds I personally would prefer to hear new with a sprinkling of classics,there's nothing better than hearing a great new sound but for a cd to intoduce people a DEF NO NO.

Regards Brian(I hope I've made sense after a few sherberts)

I remembered this thread so a quick update, the person I gave the CD to, asked for another one!!!

so I just done one gonna pop it in to them tomorrow..

They have asked me about going to a do.. but not sure about that don't like home life and work ife to meet

1. HOT SUNSHINE - BARRIE JAMES

2. I CAN'T USE YOU GIRL - THE VANGUARDS

3. WHEN YOUR LOVE HAS GONE - DEON JACKSON

4. RUN BABY - CAROL FORD

5. WHO IS YOUR LOVER - BOBBY POWELL

6. YOU CAN'T OUTSMART A WOMAN - KELL OSBORNE

7. HAPPY DAYS - LEE LaMONT

8. SWEET LITTLE GIRL - WINFIELD PARKER

9. ON A HOT SUMMER DAY - RICARDO KING

10. TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY - JIMMY LOVE

11. I FOUND JOY - JOHNNY MOFFETT

12. ONLY TRUE LOVE - LEE HARVEY

13. THERE ARE NO STRANGERS - LOUIE ROBERTS

14. SO BLUE - LITTLE MILTON

15. I JUST CAN'T STAND IT - MALIBUS

16. RAINDROPS, LOVE AND SUNSHINE - ROBERT JOHN

17. TRYING TO LOVE TWO - WILIAM BELL

18. BEWARE - LOU COURTNEY

19. YOU BRING THE SUN IN THE MORNING - FAY HAUSER

20. GOT TO GET TO KNOW YOU - THE MOMENTS

21. TOO HURT TO CRY - CANDI STATON

22. I'VE GOT TO MAKE IT ON MY OWN - DETROIT SPINNERS

23. ALL I NEED IS YOU TONIGHT - ARTHUR PRYSOCK

24. I JUST DROPPED IN TO SEE WHAT CONDITION ETC.. - SHARON JONES

25. YOU KNOW I LOVE YOU - STAN MARTIN

26. PLASE STAY DON'T GO - JESUS ALVAREZ

27. DO IT TO ME - HECTOR RIVERA

28. IT ONLY HAPPENS WHEN I LOOK AT YOU - JACKIE WILSON

29. SO LONG GOODBYE - GEORGE TORRENCE

see how it goes

Pinkyperky if you read this how did yours go down?

My Cd went down great and I'm not knocking your choices but don't you think that's a bit too much obscure for a newbie.. I dunno

My Cd went down great and I'm not knocking your choices but don't you think that's a bit too much obscure for a newbie.. I dunno

How would someone new to the music/scene know if it was obscure or not?

I know full well they are not oldies to someone who hasn't heard them but the list isn't a true reflection of the northern soul scene. There's nothing in there that list genuinely reflect the discoveries made in the stafford era, records from this era are very promoinent in many dj's playlists/sets. There's little in the list that reflects the crossover and modern scenes either..

good point chalky,although that list is ok,if we're gonna talk about peoples perspective it looks like it's been compiled from just an oldies perspective.What about things like robert tanner,mello souls,the earls,arthur willis,king moses and many others,what i'm saying l guess it maybe needs to be a bit more across the board years wise....atb Tezza

just another quicky....robert john raindrops? is this not an out and out pop tune....lets not start these new people off with this rubbish

They had no idea what Northern Soul was, so whatever I gave her was obscure and unknown..

even if i had given her "Romeo & Juliet or 7 days to long..

just another quicky....robert john raindrops? is this not an out and out pop tune....lets not start these new people off with this rubbish

Personnal choice - I like it

I thought that was what made "Northern" Special we all liked differnt stuff and bought it all together..

otherwise if we all liked the same we would still end up with the top 500 they would just be differnt tracks..

What a great thread...there is bits in here ive not heard before so im going to seek them out tonight!

This is more difficult than what it seems---as the replies suggest! As Bri Philips mentions if this was done in the early 70's then dead easy almost all classics and more importantly when these newbies went out to get their first fix of northern they would be guaranteed to hear them. Then they could move on eventually to whatever floats their boat.

How about a bit of reverse psychology here. Give em a cd with current niter big hitters, Butch c/ups, Soul Sam obscurities,rarities etc etc. Then when they do go out , imagine the joy on their faces when they hear something 'new to them. For example they've heard the current 'upfront' stuff then somewhere someone puts on williams and watson---too late Wow that would blow there socks off like it did first time round for others. Then the next week they went out and heard say A little togetherness and perhaps johhny Sayles.

And so on and so on. This way much joy every time they went out cos they can't be shielded from oldies forever and they would be rushing around at do's saying 'WTF this? Startled soulies explaining to them its only epitome of sound etc etc

So really its getting in to the Northern scene now and then working backwards

It might work..................................................

WHAT!!!!! No Doni Burdick and the absolutely utterly totally one and only proper northern inst ever BARI TRACK???? You need to find a place for this. NOW!!!!

Sorry! The one and Only! Try Condition Red for starters, Followed by Ton of Dynamite next would be Supertime and then Theyll be coming, Little Queenie, The Champion, Frantic escape and lots of other cracking instrumentals that would make anewie sit up and take notice!

What a great thread...there is bits in here ive not heard before so im going to seek them out tonight!

Have fun mate and any tracks you're stuck on just giz a pm and I'll send you the mp3

I like the idea of newcomers joining the scene as it is now and being given what is current to listen to. Then later learning about earlier sounds from other venues long gone if they stick around long enough.

Did any of us start by only listening to what was popular ten years earlier? I didn't. Imagine being a newcomer at Stafford and someone saying 'here's a tape from Wigan 1974, this is Northern Soul...'

No good starting them off with a load of 'oldies' (oldies to us i mean) because all they will do is seek out the venues that play those tunes and all we will have done is support the oldies scene.

Edited July 16, 200816 yr by Matt Male

the best way to do this would be to split the scene by generation ie wheel ,torch,cats and the mecca.....wigan, cleethorpes, samanthas,yate and maybe st.ives......stafford,starlight room ect...and so on then pick 6 from each era.....that would be more prepresentative. ....robert john is still just an out and out pop record,along with many other pop tunes from across the ages,just because they were played don't make em soul tunes.Like em or not,thats up to the individual .....but they ain't soul and this ought to be recognised imo atb T

I love the idea of a CD collection for a newbie, Fantastic idea!!

And after we all agree to the 20 tracks, we could move on to Iraq,Iran,Zimbabwe,Dofar, Chinese Human Rights.

Infact lets sort them first 'cause they are a piece a p*ss compared to the CD.

Good Luck

Simon