Is it really rare enough to warrant an auction spot?

I've had one for years (paid about a fiver for it), and have had a slack handfull of copies of it as "The Lovers" on Philips.

surely not that expensive a tune?

Is it really rare enough to warrant an auction spot?

I've had one for years (paid about a fiver for it), and have had a slack handfull of copies of it as "The Lovers" on Philips.

surely not that expensive a tune?

not that rare, even more common on phillips but you don't get the killer sweet soul side on the phillips record.

What constitutes as rare these days? ive seen more lenny curtis. peoples choice and lester tiptons in the last 10 years than this. Or is it coz its not quite got the demand of any of the

above records.

dave

Edited October 4, 200816 yr by dave pinch

What constitutes as rare these days? ive seen more lenny curtis. peoples choice and lester tiptons in the last 10 years than this. Or is it coz its not quite got the demand of any of the

above records.

dave

got to agree with you there dave, last time i saw one of these was about 15 years ago in blakes sales box, yet ive seen seen 7 copies of the super dooper, mega rare bernie williams for sale in the past 2 years manship 3, brady 2, anglo american 1, and thats not including the ones that have gone through ebay

i bought my emotions from the collossus that is andy dyson for £20 some years ago and probably

only had one other chance to buy it. In say the last 10 years ive had 6 oppotunities to buy

lester tipton and its only because my pockets are not that deep that ive never owned one

dave

i bought my emotions from the collossus that is andy dyson for £20 some years ago and probably

only had one other chance to buy it. In say the last 10 years ive had 6 oppotunities to buy

lester tipton and its only because my pockets are not that deep that ive never owned one

dave

always kicked myself for not getting that one off blake, if memory serves me right it was the princely sum of 15 pounds of the realm, great record that should be played out, ive just purchased a philips copy off joe dutton

got to agree with you there dave, last time i saw one of these was about 15 years ago in blakes sales box, yet ive seen seen 7 copies of the super dooper, mega rare bernie williams for sale in the past 2 years manship 3, brady 2, anglo american 1, and thats not including the ones that have gone through ebay

if you're mainly looking at rare northern lists you've probably seen more copies of lester tipton than jackson 5's abc, that doesn't mean the jackson 5 is rarer. This was always a well known sweet soul record, not around in quantity but copies come up as it sold when it came out. Additionally, this isn't even the rarest FORMAT for "do this for me", the Lovers on GATE (local press before phillips) is 10x rarer.

if you're mainly looking at rare northern lists you've probably seen more copies of lester tipton than jackson 5's abc, that doesn't mean the jackson 5 is rarer. This was always a well known sweet soul record, not around in quantity but copies come up as it sold when it came out. Additionally, this isn't even the rarest FORMAT for "do this for me", the Lovers on GATE (local press before phillips) is 10x rarer.

MAYBE SO, BUT LOVE OF A GIRL ISNT ON THE GATE RELEASE IS IT. LOOKING AT POPSIKE IN GENERAL THE VARDAN COPIES ALWAYS SELL FOR DECENT SUMS. OF THE HALF DOZEN COPIES LISTED, ANYTHING BETWEEN 50 TO 200 UKP. THE LAST ONE I SAW SOME FOUR MONTHS AGO FETCHING 355 USD.

MAYBE SO, BUT LOVE OF A GIRL ISNT ON THE GATE RELEASE IS IT. LOOKING AT POPSIKE IN GENERAL THE VARDAN COPIES ALWAYS SELL FOR DECENT SUMS. OF THE HALF DOZEN COPIES LISTED, ANYTHING BETWEEN 50 TO 200 UKP. THE LAST ONE I SAW SOME FOUR MONTHS AGO FETCHING 355 USD.

the vardan record usually doesn't show up on popsike because it goes for under $50 usually and popsike doesn't index cheap records. It's usually beat up, though, it is harder to find clean. I must have missed any instance of it that sold over $150, it must be a recent increase. Additionally, this is the type of record that usually doesn't go through ebay -- there are 100,000s of thousands of records that don't register on dealer's radar as rare enough to put on ebay and sit in their boxes at record shows. I've even found this record in chicago (always beat up) 3 times at record shows and this record is from the bay area. Records like these haven't been imported to the UK really because in the past there wasn't demand at least and the northern side was very common on phillips.

the vardan record usually doesn't show up on popsike because it goes for under $50 usually and popsike doesn't index cheap records. It's usually beat up, though, it is harder to find clean. I must have missed any instance of it that sold over $150, it must be a recent increase. Additionally, this is the type of record that usually doesn't go through ebay -- there are 100,000s of thousands of records that don't register on dealer's radar as rare enough to put on ebay and sit in their boxes at record shows. I've even found this record in chicago (always beat up) 3 times at record shows and this record is from the bay area. Records like these haven't been imported to the UK really because in the past there wasn't demand at least and the northern side was very common on phillips.

I will also say that my opinion totally doesn't matter at this point because if in the last year people decided that this is a $400 record that makes it a $400 record, it IS rarer than some other records that go for that much. It is NOT rarer than records like Lester Tipton, Don Gardner, etc. though.

if you're mainly looking at rare northern lists you've probably seen more copies of lester tipton than jackson 5's abc, that doesn't mean the jackson 5 is rarer. This was always a well known sweet soul record, not around in quantity but copies come up as it sold when it came out. Additionally, this isn't even the rarest FORMAT for "do this for me", the Lovers on GATE (local press before phillips) is 10x rarer.

well bob, i can assure you i dont just look at "rare" soul lists & i think i can honestly say ive seen more copies of the jackson 5 than lester tipton, next time try & make your posts a little lass condescending

well bob, i can assure you i dont just look at "rare" soul lists & i think i can honestly say ive seen more copies of the jackson 5 than lester tipton, next time try & make your posts a little lass condescending

I apologize, but my tone came from comparing the rarity to lester tipton, which is ridiculous in my opinion. This is on ebay at least several times a year, for example, again usually beat up, but it does turn up. Comparing it to the absolute rarest records is out of line. I agree that at this point you can call it a 'rare' record, at least compared to other records that sell for a similar amount, and it is usually trashed.

I apologize, but my tone came from comparing the rarity to lester tipton, which is ridiculous in my opinion. This is on ebay at least several times a year, for example, again usually beat up, but it does turn up. Comparing it to the absolute rarest records is out of line. I agree that at this point you can call it a 'rare' record, at least compared to other records that sell for a similar amount, and it is usually trashed.

bloody hell bob, take a chill pill, its not worth giving yourself a siezure over,

Edited October 4, 200816 yr by soulman1964

bloody hell bob, take a chill pill, its not worth giving yourself a siezure over,

yeah, now i'm not going to sleep for 2 days YOU JERKS

if you're mainly looking at rare northern lists you've probably seen more copies of lester tipton than jackson 5's abc, that doesn't mean the jackson 5 is rarer. This was always a well known sweet soul record, not around in quantity but copies come up as it sold when it came out. Additionally, this isn't even the rarest FORMAT for "do this for me", the Lovers on GATE (local press before phillips) is 10x rarer.

well done for pointing out the bleeding obvious bob.. the point i made was to joes original

thread. weather this record required the status of an auction record. i never said it was super rare

but it shows up over here less than some big money auction records. it looks like ive had more

offers of lester tipton than you. and i will tell you something else mate. its a bloody better

record than lester tipton. thats an ok record but very overatedIMVHO but then again if youre from the price

tag equals quality school........

dave

Edited October 4, 200816 yr by dave pinch

Now its hit a certain price its worth the dealers and runners bothering with [in the states], plus now its reached the dizzy heights of J M s auction site it will keep the inflated price. We have only ourselves to blame, having said that i have only seen 1 other copy for sale in 20 years. There lies a dicotomy. Tosh

Having said that just sold a copy for £80, so thats a bit ?

Edited October 4, 200816 yr by tosh

LIKE I SAID BEFORE THERES AT LEAST HALF A DOZEN COPIES REGISTERED THRU POPSIKE SELLING IN THE 150 - 350 USD IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, CHANCES ARE JOHNS ONLY AUCTIONING IT MAYBE BECAUSE HE'S NOT 100% SURE OF A PRICE SO HE'S LETTING THE PUNTERS DECIDE.

BRI PINCH.

I bought a mint Vardan copy in Notting Hill Gate for £6 blind a few years ago...wasnt that fussed cos of the intro and think i sent it along with another bundle of 45s to John Manship.Listened again to it today and i quite like it now..typical.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE THERES AT LEAST HALF A DOZEN COPIES REGISTERED THRU POPSIKE SELLING IN THE 150 - 350 USD IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, CHANCES ARE JOHNS ONLY AUCTIONING IT MAYBE BECAUSE HE'S NOT 100% SURE OF A PRICE SO HE'S LETTING THE PUNTERS DECIDE.

BRI PINCH.

I just looked on popsike, I couldn't find the $355 you talked about but I did find a recent one for $250 and the other ones for $200 and under, but clearly I'm out of touch about the price at this point because I didn't even think it went for that much but apparently it did. Thanks.

Knackered one on ebay now, currently under a fiver. Just got the Lovers on Phillips, under a tenner with postage.

I love the spoken intro myself nick and its only on the varden release. also ive heard the sweet soul

flip out early doors at northern do`s so does that make it northern soul. it does in my book and thats

what i like about this broad church thats known as the rare soul scene. on friday night i played do this

for me out. fair enough it thinned the dancefloor out a tad but one guy came bounding on the stage.

he says ` what was that, its ....kin brilliant i thought it was the immpressions`. even though its cheap

and available on philips as the lovers a lot of people still dont know it..if joes got any copies left they

should be snapped up immediatley

dave

Edited October 5, 200816 yr by dave pinch

I love the spoken intro myself nick and its only on the varden release. also ive heard the sweet soul

flip out early doors at northern do`s so does that make it northern soul. it does in my book and thats

what i like about this broad church thats known as the rare soul scene. on friday night i played do this

for me out. fair enough it thinned the dancefloor out a tad but one guy came bounding on the stage.

he says ` what was that, its ....kin brilliant i thought it was the immpressions`. even though its cheap

and available on philips as the lovers a lot of people still dont know it..if joes got any copies left they

should be snapped up immediatley

dave

Just checked my Lovers on Philips (40353) and it has the accapella intro as per my Emotions on Vardan.

The Philips release is very slightly faster (Running time listed as 2:26, Vardan release 2:34).

Was it released on Philips without the intro as well?

Hi,the Emotions is probably(imho), the best "Vietnam" record, followed by The Intentions - "Don't forget that i love you".Vietnam thread anyone?

Not everyones cup of tea, but wanted enough for the "b" side "Love of a girl" to warrant auction.

After the spoken intro,"DTFM" moves in to a niter sound, but "LOAG" is the clincher.

I suspect the Lovers version is The Emotions speeded up, to give it a more commercial feel.Who can tell lately what records are going to command?.

Whether it sells for £1 or £100 doesn't take away the quality of the record,and this is quality especially "LOAG".

all of course imho ,,Kev.

Hi,the Emotions is probably(imho), the best "Vietnam" record, followed by The Intentions - "Don't forget that i love you".Vietnam thread anyone?

Not everyones cup of tea, but wanted enough for the "b" side "Love of a girl" to warrant auction.

After the spoken intro,"DTFM" moves in to a niter sound, but "LOAG" is the clincher.

I suspect the Lovers version is The Emotions speeded up, to give it a more commercial feel.Who can tell lately what records are going to command?.

Whether it sells for £1 or £100 doesn't take away the quality of the record,and this is quality especially "LOAG".

all of course imho ,,Kev.

and your humble opinion, kev, is spot on

BRI PINCH.

Got to say both sides of this are beautiful, especially the sweet side of the Vardan copy.

Hi,the Emotions is probably(imho), the best "Vietnam" record, followed by The Intentions - "Don't forget that i love you".Vietnam thread anyone?

Not everyones cup of tea, but wanted enough for the "b" side "Love of a girl" to warrant auction.

After the spoken intro,"DTFM" moves in to a niter sound, but "LOAG" is the clincher.

I suspect the Lovers version is The Emotions speeded up, to give it a more commercial feel.Who can tell lately what records are going to command?.

Whether it sells for £1 or £100 doesn't take away the quality of the record,and this is quality especially "LOAG".

all of course imho ,,Kev.

I've owned both at the same time DTFM plays the same to my ears. 'Love of a girl' is in my opinion the best side, but the flip of the Phillips side is also great. (I still regret selling the Vardan copy)

Kind regards

Paul

obviously another one Im now regrettin selling for £20 3 years ago but I never felt it was that rare as I saw copies on ebay quite regularly 3 or 5 years ago thtas where I got mine for £15.

I think their is an interesting story about this record and the label owner but cannot remember for the life of me!

Obviously John is auctioning for the sweet side as he states but the question is -"What merits anJM auction item- Answer "Anything"

obviously another one Im now regrettin selling for £20 3 years ago but I never felt it was that rare as I saw copies on ebay quite regularly 3 or 5 years ago thtas where I got mine for £15.

I think their is an interesting story about this record and the label owner but cannot remember for the life of me!

Obviously John is auctioning for the sweet side as he states but the question is -"What merits anJM auction item- Answer "Anything"

Here's a link to Greg Tormo's excellent article about the Emotions and 'Love of a Girl'.

Emotions Article

I bought a mint Vardan copy in Notting Hill Gate for £6 blind a few years ago...wasnt that fussed cos of the intro and think i sent it along with another bundle of 45s to John Manship.Listened again to it today and i quite like it now..typical.

Just listened to the flip The Love of a girl...what a fool i was to sell my copy.I was a bit younger and loved my stompers then.

Just listened to the flip The Love of a girl...what a fool i was to sell my copy.I was a bit younger and loved my stompers then.

thats why i payed the 80 quid "THE LOVE OF A GIRL" and you don't see many for sale either regards john"o"

thats why i payed the 80 quid "THE LOVE OF A GIRL" and you don't see many for sale either regards john"o"

and i've just put it on cd, Off The Pace(free) only last week,,Kev .