Interesting piece in today's Daily Telegraph (sorry, bit of a reactionary) about Once Upon A Time In Wigan, which I will be attending with my good lady wife in Coventry in June.

Headlined 'The secret scene that refused to die', it makes a number of bizarre claims, among them that at one point the northern scene was down to 500 people. Not sure when that was, but it's by the by.

The most interesting claim is made by Paul Sadot (the director and a long-time northern fan). He talks at length about drugs on the scene and makes the following astonishing, nay bizarre, claim: 'But there was a mad period of about two years when people started popping their clogs. I remember when seven people died in one night. The scene was so underground that it never hit the papers.'

Fuuuuck me, never mind the scene being underground, it sounds as though most of the punters were; this appears to explain why it dwindled so dramatically from the peak of Wigan.

Can this be true? Does anyone remember this infamous night? And if that was out of the ordinary, what was a normal evening like...a couple gone off at Wigan and a lad met his maker at the Mecca? Just the three tonight, then.

NB: I will, naturally, be delighted to extend formal apologies to Mr Sadot if anyone can prove this did actually happen.

Possibly it's poetic licence, Mr Sadot is in the entertainment industry after all.

There was a time in the late 70s when a load of legal blues that you couldn't get busted for were about. They were iffy but I can't remember them taking seven people out.

The trouble was they were horse pills and had bizarre side effects, Chris Harrop and I nearly cut short the Alarm's future career by giving them some down the Roxy when they were a punk group called the Toilets (prior to being mod group Seventeen).

They were rough but certainly made you lively; lead singer Migsy won the 3.30 at Wincanton the next day.

Interesting piece in today's Daily Telegraph (sorry, bit of a reactionary) about Once Upon A Time In Wigan, which I will be attending with my good lady wife in Coventry in June.

Headlined 'The secret scene that refused to die', it makes a number of bizarre claims, among them that at one point the northern scene was down to 500 people. Not sure when that was, but it's by the by.

The most interesting claim is made by Paul Sadot (the director and a long-time northern fan). He talks at length about drugs on the scene and makes the following astonishing, nay bizarre, claim: 'But there was a mad period of about two years when people started popping their clogs. I remember when seven people died in one night. The scene was so underground that it never hit the papers.'

Fuuuuck me, never mind the scene being underground, it sounds as though most of the punters were; this appears to explain why it dwindled so dramatically from the peak of Wigan.

Can this be true? Does anyone remember this infamous night? And if that was out of the ordinary, what was a normal evening like...a couple gone off at Wigan and a lad met his maker at the Mecca? Just the three tonight, then.

NB: I will, naturally, be delighted to extend formal apologies to Mr Sadot if anyone can prove this did actually happen.

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Was this Wakefield ? Not sure of the time but didn't a mate of Kebs die in this tradgedy ?

Warfarin rings a bell as well ?

Edited April 21, 200520 yr by BLADEFORLIFE

Can this be true? Does anyone remember this infamous night? And if that was out of the ordinary, what was a normal evening like...a couple gone off at Wigan and a lad met his maker at the Mecca? Just the three tonight, then.

It's true, I remember it well. We were on a minibus, out of Hinckley, singing along to Anita Harris - The Play Ground;somebody shouted "it's the squad, behind us" and I dropped my 400 count bottle of Durophet which rolled under the brake pedel and we careered into the small queue of 45,000 souls waiting outside Wigan! Luckly the bottle didn't smash. The one at Mecca was unconected, some fat bloke, called Ian, singing the Carstairs, fell under a tram accidently, derailing the tram and killing the driver!

Edited April 22, 200520 yr by Hippo

Possibly it's poetic licence, Mr Sadot is in the entertainment industry after all.

There was a time in the late 70s when a load of legal blues that you couldn't get busted for were about. They were iffy but I can't remember them taking seven people out.

The trouble was they were horse pills and had bizarre side effects, Chris Harrop and I nearly cut short the Alarm's future career by giving them some down the Roxy when they were a punk group called the Toilets (prior to being mod group Seventeen).

They were rough but certainly made you lively; lead singer Migsy won the 3.30 at Wincanton the next day.

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They were called "Disco Biscuits" big white tablets meant to be given to horses as an anaesthetic. Basically they are PCP (Ketamine) which was used by vets to anaethetis animals but they give you terrible hallucinations

Edited April 22, 200520 yr by Hippo

Possibly it's poetic licence, Mr Sadot is in the entertainment industry after all.

There was a time in the late 70s when a load of legal blues that you couldn't get busted for were about. They were iffy but I can't remember them taking seven people out.

The trouble was they were horse pills and had bizarre side effects, Chris Harrop and I nearly cut short the Alarm's future career by giving them some down the Roxy when they were a punk group called the Toilets (prior to being mod group Seventeen).

They were rough but certainly made you lively; lead singer Migsy won the 3.30 at Wincanton the next day.

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So that's what caused Mike Peter's strange behaviour.

I never get chance to name drop on any of the other threads (i.e. the ones about famous people you have seen at soul nights, cos my eyesight is so sh*t I wouldn't recognise anyone or over indulged with mr smirnoff) so thought I would grab my chance while I could.

Had an email last week off Dave Sharp, used to go out with him many many moons ago, about the time the toilets were about, I can feel the name drop landing now THUMP, he was lead guitarist with Seventeen and the Alarm, his new Soul Co CD is out in may - not a punk track in sight. His mail shots have the tag line, get this,

KEEP THE FAITH

In fact - new them all quite well Did you also know that for one night only they appeared at Eric's in Liverpool under the name of Eddie Bop, apparently the management didn't think the name Toilets was suitable.

Sad when that's my only claim to fame

Thank you for letting me have my little bit of glory by temporarily hi jacking your thread, but I did manage to get a couple tenuous NS references in there so don't slap my wrists.

Ok now back to the thread - I don't remember anything about this night either.

lol

QOF

Still waffalling after all these years

Edited May 26, 200519 yr by chrissieo

Interesting piece in today's Daily Telegraph (sorry, bit of a reactionary) about Once Upon A Time In Wigan, which I will be attending with my good lady wife in Coventry in June.

Headlined 'The secret scene that refused to die', it makes a number of bizarre claims, among them that at one point the northern scene was down to 500 people. Not sure when that was, but it's by the by.

The most interesting claim is made by Paul Sadot (the director and a long-time northern fan). He talks at length about drugs on the scene and makes the following astonishing, nay bizarre, claim: 'But there was a mad period of about two years when people started popping their clogs. I remember when seven people died in one night. The scene was so underground that it never hit the papers.'

Fuuuuck me, never mind the scene being underground, it sounds as though most of the punters were; this appears to explain why it dwindled so dramatically from the peak of Wigan.

Can this be true? Does anyone remember this infamous night? And if that was out of the ordinary, what was a normal evening like...a couple gone off at Wigan and a lad met his maker at the Mecca? Just the three tonight, then.

NB: I will, naturally, be delighted to extend formal apologies to Mr Sadot if anyone can prove this did actually happen.

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I WOULDN'T UNDERESTIMATE PAUL .I'M 99% SURE WHAT HE SAID WAS RIGHT.IWAS THERE ON THE NIGHT WHEN THEY DID THIS ENGLAND DOCUMENTARY.A LOT OF THE HARDCORE SOULIES WERE IN THE M'S ROOM.THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE DROPPING DOWN OVER THE YEARS DUE TO OVER INDULGENCE. THE REST IS HISTORY.

CHEERS

BILLY

Was this Wakefield ? Not sure of the time but didn't a mate of Kebs die in this tradgedy ?

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Yeah, his name was Bruce RIP. Wakefield was the nighter - different strength gear from week to week. Sad but true

Interesting piece in today's Daily Telegraph (sorry, bit of a reactionary) about Once Upon A Time In Wigan, which I will be attending with my good lady wife in Coventry in June........

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cheers dan for bringing attention

the full thing is up on Telegraph site now if wanna read it

**visit site link,

Fascinating to read what has become, even on this most open of sites, the taboo subject of drug use( and for obvious reasons) in and around the Northern Soul scene.

Brett

Fascinating to read what has become, even on this most open of sites, the taboo subject of drug use( and for obvious reasons) in and around the Northern Soul scene.

Brett 

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Yeh great read - would love to get to see it!!

But now the serious bit.

In response to the comment on the taboo subject of drug use within the scene, where as I am not niave enough to think that there still isn't an amount of drug use on the scene, i would like to think that with our advancing years and children of our own, we have become much wiser and it doesn't feature so much on the scene these days amoungst us older peeps or at least the moderation programme has switched on in our heads, also the ability to have longer licensing hours may of helped.

As much as I welcome younger soulies on to the scene and see them as the mainstay of the scene in the future, it scares me that there could be a resurgence of the drug use we saw back in the early 70s and now with all venues being licensed for all nighters etc it won't be one or the orther it will be both.

Being a mum of a 25 year old who has had problems with drug use in the past I felt more comfortable introducing him to the scene this year at prestatyn than I would of done taking him to wigan 30 years ago.

We are all getting older lets not hasten our visit to meet our maker, I have too many good friends on the scene that I want to still be spinning with for a good few years yet.

Don;t get me wrong I am no goody goody but I like to think that common sense, in some things, prevails

QOF

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Was this Wakefield ? Not sure of the time but didn't a mate of Kebs die in this tradgedy ?

Warfarin rings a bell as well ?

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Yes Steve, warfarin blues at Unity Hall, would have been 1977 / 1978. Remember it being headline news on Calender. Now that was a great all nighter at the time, last train from Sheffield turned into a mobile northern night all of it's own.

Yes Steve, warfarin blues at Unity Hall, would have been 1977 / 1978. Remember it being headline news on Calender. Now that was a great all nighter at the time, last train from Sheffield turned into a mobile northern night all of it's own.

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Yep.

I was there with mates Tan and Hovis from Oldham. I'm sure I remember DJs announcing warnings about "Backstreet Blues".

Think we saw about three people keel over - scary times. Except it wan't because we were 16/17 and indestructible. Idiots.

Godz

Wakefield Unity is correct. Old Pat Brady stomping ground. We used to pile over there from the Buff Club in Barnoldswick in the mid 70s.

I too remember an announcement over the mike that there was a dodgy substance about and that people should be aware of the danger. The whole "horse pills" seems familiar.

The gang from my home town lost quite a few to the drug craze, but it was mainly as folks "progressed" to the hard stuff and barbs really took hold of a few too.

Shame..... but there you go....as comment earlier said we were young and indestructible. Yeah right!

Regards,

Dave

www.hitsvillesoulclub.com

It's true, I remember it well. We were on a minibus, out of Hinckley, singing along to Anita Harris - The Play Ground;somebody shouted "it's the squad, behind us" and I dropped my 400 count bottle of Durophet which rolled under the brake pedel and we careered into the small queue of 45,000  souls waiting outside Wigan! Luckly the bottle didn't smash. The one at Mecca was unconected, some fat bloke singing the Carstairs, fell under a tram accidently, derailing the tram and killing the driver!

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yes, i remember that night. my mate andy had just had a draught bass beer towel made into a moustache and surgically attached to his top lip. it went on to become very popular but was groundbreaking at the time.

it was easter weekend and he'd worn holes in his feet from spinning, and in his hands from clapping. a few crazed souls saw him, clocked the stigmata and - it being easter - put two and two together...they followed him all the way back down the m1 to stoke where he staged an impromptu torch revival. no music, just him and 11,000 followers dancing to an imaginary mel britt.

you just don't get nights like that any more.

I WOULDN'T UNDERESTIMATE PAUL .I'M 99% SURE WHAT HE SAID WAS RIGHT.IWAS THERE ON THE NIGHT WHEN THEY DID THIS  ENGLAND DOCUMENTARY.A LOT OF THE HARDCORE SOULIES WERE IN THE M'S ROOM.THERE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE DROPPING DOWN OVER THE YEARS DUE TO OVER INDULGENCE. THE REST IS HISTORY.

CHEERS

BILLY

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billy, if you can prove to me that seven people died in one night and it never made the papers i'll invite you over to my house and you can pick any 10 of my records*

*this offer applies to pressings box only. you must be over 18. not transferrable. the value of your pressings can go up as well as up a bit more. you can't take good lookalikes cos i might be able to get away with them if it's dark somewhere.

yes, i remember that night. my mate andy had just had a draught bass beer towel made into a moustache and surgically attached to his top lip. it went on to become very popular but was groundbreaking at the time.

it was easter weekend and he'd worn holes in his feet from spinning, and in his hands from clapping. a few crazed souls saw him, clocked the stigmata and - it being easter - put two and two together...they followed him all the way back down the m1 to stoke where he staged an impromptu torch revival. no music, just him and 11,000 followers dancing to an imaginary mel britt.

you just don't get nights like that any more.

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Excellent Dan, They think I'm mad, having just arrived at work and now in tears of laughter. Cheers for brightening my day.

Paul

Yes Steve, warfarin blues at Unity Hall, would have been 1977 / 1978. Remember it being headline news on Calender. Now that was a great all nighter at the time, last train from Sheffield turned into a mobile northern night all of it's own.

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One of the girls from the Sheffield crowd was selling it for somebody. She disappeared from the scene shortly after. You will probably know who I mean.

Yes Steve, warfarin blues at Unity Hall, would have been 1977 / 1978. Remember it being headline news on Calender. Now that was a great all nighter at the time, last train from Sheffield turned into a mobile northern night all of it's own.

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One of the girls from the Sheffield crowd was selling it for somebody. She disappeared from the scene shortly after. You will probably know who I mean.

Yeah, his name was Bruce RIP.  Wakefield was the nighter - different strength gear from week to week.  Sad but true

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a great chap and a sad loss to the scottish soul scene

Yeh great read - would love to get to see it!!

But now the serious bit.

In response to the comment on the taboo subject of drug use within the scene, where as I am not niave enough to think that there still isn't an amount of drug use on the scene, i would like to think that with our advancing years and children of our own, we have become much wiser and it doesn't  feature so much on the scene these days amoungst us older peeps or at least the moderation programme has switched on in our heads, also the ability to have longer licensing hours may of helped. 

As much as I welcome younger soulies on to the scene and see them as the mainstay of the scene in the future, it scares me that there could be a resurgence of the drug use we saw back in the early 70s and now with all venues being licensed for all nighters etc it won't be one or the orther it will be both.

Being a mum of a 25 year old who has had problems with drug use in the past I felt more comfortable introducing him to the scene this year at prestatyn than I would of done taking him to wigan 30 years ago.

We are all getting older lets not hasten our visit to meet our maker, I have too many good friends on the scene that I want to still be spinning with for a good few years yet.

Don;t get me wrong I am no goody goody but I like to think that common sense, in some things, prevails

QOF

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Yeah Chris i see your point entirely, but i've always thought if somone wants to do gear, and control their use, then i for one have no grievience with that standing, any vice can be abused and the consequences are undoubtedly ugly, and i know many people who have "faded" with such excess, still that is a lesson of life i guess.

Yeah Chris i see your point entirely, but i've always thought if somone wants to do gear, and control their use, then i for one have no grievience with that standing, any vice can be abused and the consequences are undoubtedly ugly, and i know many people who have "faded" with such excess, still that is a lesson of life i guess.

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Brett

I totally agree with your point and I think that's what I was trying to so in my round about way when I referred to "switching on the moderation programme in our heads"

lol

QOF

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I've been taking gear every weekend for the last 40 years and I've never been in better sha

Yeah Chris i see your point entirely, but i've always thought if somone wants to do gear, and control their use, then i for one have no grievience with that standing, any vice can be abused and the consequences are undoubtedly ugly, and i know many people who have "faded" with such excess, still that is a lesson of life i guess.

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Not a case of controlling their usage Brett. Some b*stard sold them Warfarin (as I remember) as amphet/slimming pills.

And f*cking got away with it. Nobody on the outside really cared as we were all seen as 'druggies'.

The squad were great at busting people, but didn't care about spending too many man hours looking for the people behind this and other deaths. More than one 'character' in our area was responsible for someone dying, but nobody bothered to do much.

At 40+ people should be more aware of the dangers. At 17-20 we were all indestructable. We had a similar conversation the other night on another theme. Luckily, people didn't die. Still b*llocks though, as you so rightly, and eloquently said.Unfortunately, the draw of stronger/different drugs was too powerful for some.

But for the grace of God etc etc.

Steve

Not a case of controlling their usage Brett. Some b*stard sold them Warfarin (as I remember) as amphet/slimming pills.

And f*cking got away with it. Nobody on the outside really cared as we were all seen as 'druggies'.

The squad were great at busting people, but didn't care about spending too many man hours looking for the people behind this and other deaths. More than one 'character' in our area was responsible for someone dying, but nobody bothered to do much.

At 40+ people should be more aware of the dangers. At 17-20 we were all indestructable. We had a similar conversation the other night on another theme. Luckily, people didn't die. Still b*llocks though, as you so rightly, and eloquently  said.Unfortunately, the draw of stronger/different drugs was too powerful for some.

But for the grace of God etc etc.

Steve

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Steve, i see were you are coming from, their are plenty of gutless bastards out there trying to do people harm and making a fast shilling, thats the problem when a substance is made illegal, all sorts of underground merchants have chance to run wild and cut all sort of ungodly chemicals into a powder/paste and feel no remorse for their actions.

Steve, i see were you are coming from, their are plenty of gutless bastards out there trying to do people harm and making a fast shilling, thats the problem when a substance is made illegal, all sorts of underground merchants have chance to run wild and cut all sort of ungodly chemicals into a powder/paste and feel no remorse for their actions.

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In the early days, everything was thieved from chemists. Regulated dosage etc. Obviously, some people overindulged to the point of recklessness. But then the amateurs took over. (Leicester Chemistry students ring a bell), and the danger really kicks in. Unregulated dosage, cut with God knows what. Thats what amazes me about people our age buying stuff willy nilly now.

And I'm no goody two shoes but I think a lot of people take it because they think they should, rather than to be able to stop up all night on a buzz. At least with charlie you buy it off someone you can trust.

Yeah Chris i see your point entirely, but i've always thought if somone wants to do gear, and control their use, then i for one have no grievience with that standing, any vice can be abused and the consequences are undoubtedly ugly, and i know many people who have "faded" with such excess, still that is a lesson of life i guess.

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Here is the man we set our watches by...4.15am...Thats when the 19 pints catch up with him...then its.... or :angry: ..God bless you sir...

5th MAY...The Ducie Bridge landlord on the Shandy at the Mint Lounge...

Here is the man we set our watches by...4.15am...Thats when the 19 pints catch up with him...then its....   or :angry: ..God bless you sir...

5th MAY...The Ducie Bridge landlord on the Shandy at the Mint Lounge...

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On the Shandy...."I Would Rather Have A Dog Bark At A Crow, Than Suffer Such An Indignity"

On the Shandy...."I Would Rather Have A Dog Bark At A Crow, Than Suffer Such An Indignity"

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Brett, the Ducie is in Lancashire. When in Rome etc etc

Steve i am seriously gonna turn up at the Ducie soon and get drunk with the locals......i kid you not.....

Steve i am seriously gonna turn up at the Ducie soon and get drunk with the locals......i kid you not.....

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Do they still brew Robinsons beer? Great drink

I've been taking gear every weekend for the last 40 years and I've never been in better sha

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Steady M8 you dont know whos reading this site

Steady M8 you dont know whos reading this site 

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Miff,

the post is unfinished.

It was supposed to say 'in better shape than Bladeforlife'

Steve i am seriously gonna turn up at the Ducie soon and get drunk with the locals......i kid you not.....

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5th May....I will buy you lunch there mate...and a few pints

Steady M8 you dont know whos reading this site 

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thanks miff

but i'm only 37!

it was supposed to be a sort of heart attack joke but fell a little bit flat...

obviously i've never taken any drugs of any sort and consult my lawyer before necking an aspirin

Yes Steve, warfarin blues at Unity Hall, would have been 1977 / 1978. Remember it being headline news on Calender. Now that was a great all nighter at the time, last train from Sheffield turned into a mobile northern night all of it's own.

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Yes, i too remember that,having been to Wakefield unity with my mate Mandy, who was really ill and looking back really lucky,twas enough to stop her doing niters, mind you, i should think there weren't many male soulies left, who she hadn't shagged!!! and yes, Unity was one of the best all-niters i ever wen't to despite the gear probs.Del xx

thanks miff

but i'm only 37!

it was supposed to be a sort of heart attack joke but fell a little bit flat...

obviously i've never taken any drugs of any sort and consult my lawyer before necking an aspirin

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It's alright I got the joke but was in a meeting when read it and couldn't reply may be u should of put sha..................... they can be a bit slow this lot

only joking tee hee

QOF

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billy, if you can prove to me that seven people died in one night and it never made the papers i'll invite you over to my house and you can pick any 10 of my records*

*this offer applies to pressings box only. you must be over 18. not transferrable. the value of your pressings can go up as well as up a bit more. you can't take good lookalikes cos i might be able to get away with them if it's dark somewhere.

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Dan I will speak to Paul when I'll see him next

Name dropper - thought this was my name dropping thread - only joking

QOF

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Yes, i too remember that,having been to Wakefield unity with my mate Mandy, who was really ill and looking back really lucky,twas enough to stop her doing niters, mind you, i should think there weren't many male soulies left, who she hadn't shagged!!! and yes, Unity was one of the best all-niters i ever wen't to despite the gear probs.Del xx

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Before I reply this isn't a joke or a p*ss take it true.

My friend Joanne nearly choked to death at wigan in about '74, she swallowed her chuddy (chewing gum to the un initiated) and it got stuck in her throat, when she did a back drop.

Scared the sh*t out of me cos my parents thought I was at her house and vice a versa. When we finally sorted her out we were more scared about the parents finding out we were at wigan and getting grounded so we wouldn't be able to go again.

And to think now I am a Safety Auditor scarry when you think back to what we did back then

My friend Joanne nearly choked to death at wigan in about '74, she swallowed her chuddy (chewing gum to the un initiated) and it got stuck in her throat, when she did a back drop.

Chrissie,

I know you say this is for real, but it reads like a Peter Kay joke

Steve

My friend Joanne nearly choked to death at wigan in about '74, she swallowed her chuddy (chewing gum to the un initiated) and it got stuck in her throat, when she did a back drop.

Chrissie,

I know you say this is for real, but it reads like a Peter Kay joke 

Steve

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trust me they were'nt spinning amarillo at the time

It's alright I got the joke but was in a meeting when read it and couldn't reply may be u should of put sha..................... they can be a bit slow this lot

only joking tee hee

QOF

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I've JUST got it

I've JUST got it   

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Doooooooooooooh

QOF

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OK Billy but don't forget my rider...I'm losing confidence!!

I've JUST got it   

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it was very subtle* steve, don't beat yourself up!

*ie not all that funny

Edited April 22, 200520 yr by Dan

I've been taking gear every weekend for the last 40 years and I've never been in better sha

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thanks miff

but i'm only 37!

it was supposed to be a sort of heart attack joke but fell a little bit flat...

obviously i've never taken any drugs of any sort and consult my lawyer before necking an aspirin

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I didn't think it fell flat Dan. I thought it was hilarious!

They were called "Disco Biscuits" big white tablets meant to be given to horses as an anaesthetic. Basically they are PCP (Ketamine) which was used by vets to anaethetis animals but they give you terrible hallucinations

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These weren't the Trinity Hall Blueys. The ones Ady is on about were from Coventry and were speckled with Stricnine or Wafarine in them. Two of them and you were walking two feet (literally) off the ground . Then the rat poison kicked in and you sitting on the bog with it coming out of both ends. Very naugty ones!

I remember when i first got onto the scene in 1978, there was a real good dancer i used to admire, he danced all night long, was in the local scooter club and went everywhere. I saw him last year, he doesnt dance anymore, i asked him why, he told me he had 2 heart attacks and then he went on to tell me he did too many drugs when he was younger.So now hes gone from a top dancer to taking money on the door, what a waste.

"They were called "Disco Biscuits" big white tablets meant to be given to horses as an anaesthetic. Basically they are PCP (Ketamine) which was used by vets to anaethetis animals but they give you terrible hallucinations"

A mate of mine into the acid house scene purchased some thinking they were something else.

Driving home he had to wrestle with the steering wheel as it turned into an enormous sausage.

Col.

These weren't the Trinity Hall Blueys. The ones Ady is on about were from Coventry and were speckled with Stricnine or Wafarine in them. Two of them and you were walking two feet (literally) off the ground . Then the rat poison kicked in and you sitting on the bog  with it coming out of both ends. Very naugty ones!

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Yep, they were the ones I remember 'Stricnine Blueys'.

I remember getting a tug on the way to the bus station the morning after Wigan by the infamous skinhead George Orm and his mates from Pemberton in Orrell, Wigan (Shite mesen, I was 8 stone wet through then ).

Apparently I had sat with me hands on the radiator (I was freezing that morning) at the bottom left of the dancefloor behind which the dodgy tablets had been stashed and they thought I had been to pick them up.

They'd been watching the guy who apparently was responsible for knocking them out and were going to hand out a kicking to all involved.

I got away with it luckily but remember all the shit that went on with them at that time.