As Mike chose to split my thread up, and as I wanted one thread to discuss my productions, this is the Ian Levine Production thread.

To discuss anything I have written or produced or both, between February 1975 and the present date 2009.

I only suggested that the flip side of kings go forth was awesome

I think it was a different Paul that he was referring to.

In fact, I'm sure of it.

The Cairos came from Rob Smiths Shop

????? what before the cautions? or is my memory playing tricks?

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isnt that james' problem here JEALOUSY

i cant think of any other reason..other than to be really annoying or trying to wind ian up to get another thread closed

ian DONT rise to any bait!!

i don't get all the baiting stuff on here,i think it is peurile and childish.

i don't know ian(think i did meet him once) but surely his knowledge and

his memory of the scene should be utilised.everyone can learn so much from

him which is all part of the enjoyment of the thread.he may (for whatever reason)

not be to everyones cup of tea,but his wealth of knowledge should be used in the right way.

keep it going ian and ignore the detractors!

Edited January 12, 200916 yr by inspirations001

I've tried to like it, but it's cheap, messy, turgid, and substandard, and would have stood as much chance of getting played by ME at Blackpool Mecca as Mairzy Doats by The Innocence.

So you'd get to the vocal at least?

So you'd get to the vocal at least?

Colin Curtis got to the vocal at least.

I refused to play it. I sussed what Dave Rivers and Dave Burton were up to and wouldn't play ball, but then joined in the joke urging Colin to play it.

My favourite Mecca moment.

When Colin was about to take it off, I yelled "Hang on - it's got a funny beginning - but the beat kicks in any second". Les Cokell was rolling on the floor peeing himself.

keep it going ian and ignore the detractors!

Thankyou. I hope to do so, if Mike will let me continue.

Ian, if you was asked to dj at a nighter now what nighter would you prefer to dj at and what tracks would you play in say an hour set

Bearsy

ask try keep all posts to the actual subject

eg Ian-Levine-Productions-Songs

bearsy theres one somewhere on mecca that may be better suited

can ya post it there

ask try keep all posts to the actual subject

eg Ian-Levine-Productions-Songs

bearsy theres one somewhere on mecca that may be better suited

can ya post it there

sorry mike i will do

Ian,

Lamont Dozier is the most successful songwriter alive today. (I think he attained that accolade with the number of #1s he has had on the Billboard Charts). Have you ever sat down with him? Maybe when the Motorcity Project in Detroit was in full swing? Now there's a man who could write million sellers on the back of a fag packet!

On the recent Motown 50 program Edddie Holland was asked "In quality control sessions could H-D-H still be overuled?"

Mr Holland's reply was "Sure, Berry always had the final say"

Interviewer "And were you ever overuled?"

Eddie "No"

Smart cookie that Mr Gordy.

Thankyou. I hope to do so, if Mike will let me continue.

No, please Ian , battle on! Its for us I know and its really appreciated that your such a little soldier. Keep it up we love all these really old, tired and oft repeated gems. Great stuff!

President Bush was asked about 5 minutes ago at a press conference, something along these lines:

There is a term in the press called "Bush Derangement". Mr President, do you have anything to say about this passionate critisism, derision and harsh discord that seems to surround your every action?

If the question is fine to ask the President of the USA, can I please put it to Ian Levine with reference to his productions?

wow you have a good memory, that one had escaped me.

it's my age!

are you 50+ and still doing niters?

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GREAT AND INTELLIGENT QUESTION JAMES. Mike, how can you have a thread where there is only a selective response to questions, its unheard of. Levine needs to answer all relevent and politely put questions or close this ridiculous thread! You cannot operate a thread where he decides what to answer, thats just a PROPOGANDA thread!

posted again, because all you seem to have done is move it and not give a reply Mike? I could just start posting hundreds of questions if you like? then we can have Levine ignore page upon page?

President Bush was asked about 5 minutes ago at a press conference, something along these lines:

There is a term in the press called "Bush Derangement". Mr President, do you have anything to say about this passionate critisism, derision and harsh discord that seems to surround your every action?

If the question is fine to ask the President of the USA, can I please put it to Ian Levine with reference to his productions?

Great question....answer please ?

GREAT AND INTELLIGENT QUESTION JAMES. Mike, how can you have a thread where there is only a selective response to questions, its unheard of. Levine needs to answer all relevent and politely put questions or close this ridiculous thread! You cannot operate a thread where he decides what to answer, thats just a PROPOGANDA thread!

posted again, because all you seem to have done is move it and not give a reply Mike? I could just start posting hundreds of questions if you like? then we can have Levine ignore page upon page?

Alternatively YOU could just grow up maybe?

Derek

Any chance of a sound file of this "best ever Ian Levine northern soul production"? It sound promising...

Great question. Answer please?

Alternatively YOU could just grow up maybe?

Derek

very articulate answer!

That's not too bad, catchy. You know what I think of the production though...

Can we hear this Peter Lamarr track?

Also, do you fancy starting a thread with the 400 unknown records you say you have in your hot box? Post sound clips, you don't have to put titles up if your worried that they are all hidden away on Gemm for $20 each. I'm sure people would like to hear those.

Great question. answer please?

Thanks Mike.

I could try and do four thousand actually.

That would be great? Go on then.?

Anybody else want to have one of my 300 record job lots, before I start sorting them all out ???

It's gonna take time, so I'd rather not keep starting all over again.

SURELY THIS IS OFF TOPIC?

????? what before the cautions? or is my memory playing tricks?

No , Keb Darge bought it from RS shop in the early 80's

President Bush was asked about 5 minutes ago at a press conference, something along these lines:

There is a term in the press called "Bush Derangement". Mr President, do you have anything to say about this passionate critisism, derision and harsh discord that seems to surround your every action?

If the question is fine to ask the President of the USA, can I please put it to Ian Levine with reference to his productions?

told ya

taking it as deliberate sh*t stirring

final warning

GREAT AND INTELLIGENT QUESTION JAMES. Mike, how can you have a thread where there is only a selective response to questions, its unheard of. Levine needs to answer all relevent and politely put questions or close this ridiculous thread! You cannot operate a thread where he decides what to answer, thats just a PROPOGANDA thread!

posted again, because all you seem to have done is move it and not give a reply Mike? I could just start posting hundreds of questions if you like? then we can have Levine ignore page upon page?

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Ian, if you was asked to dj at a nighter now what nighter would you prefer to dj at and what tracks would you play in say an hour set

Bearsy

I may have an answer to that question in a week's time that you're not expecting.

Stay tuned......

told ya

taking it as deliberate sh*t stirring

final warning

President Bush's answer was pretty much along these lines:

"You know, the best thing about our great country is that people can openly critisise, debate, even ridicule without fear of being thrown in jail, persecuted or executed. Anyone who stands up here, in the spot light should expect to receive critisism, even derision."

And on that note Mike, it's been a fun 5 1/2 half years but I no longer wish to be part of this site. I might be back once Levine has sold whatever it is he has to sold and he's fucked off. But until then, thanks for the hard work on the site Mike, sorry to see you bullied by Levine, I've receive the threatening emails from his croonies as well. Not nice. So I totally understand your stance.

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Ian,

Lamont Dozier is the most successful songwriter alive today. (I think he attained that accolade with the number of #1s he has had on the Billboard Charts). Have you ever sat down with him? Maybe when the Motorcity Project in Detroit was in full swing? Now there's a man who could write million sellers on the back of a fag packet!

Lamont came in and did all the backing vocals on my Paul Young album in 1994.

We had a wonderful dinner at Bibendum where he talked for about four hours about how he fused jazz chords with a rock beat and created the Motown Sound.

We also wrote two songs together.

On the recent Motown 50 program Edddie Holland was asked "In quality control sessions could H-D-H still be overuled?"

There were major Motown TV shows in America for Motown 25, Motown 30, and Motown 40.

Is there not going to be an actual Motown 50 ???

I ask this with total relevance, as I recorded over 850 songs, with 108 former Motown artists, for Motorcity Records, so obvioulsy I would be fascinated to find out.

President Bush's answer was pretty much along these lines:

"You know, the best thing about our great country is that people can openly critisise, debate, even ridicule without fear of being thrown in jail, persecuted or executed. Anyone who stands up here, in the spot light should expect to receive critisism, even derision."

And on that note Mike, it's been a fun 5 1/2 half years but I no longer wish to be part of this site. I might be back once Levine has sold whatever it is he has to sold and he's fucked off. But until then, thanks for the hard work on the site Mike, sorry to see you bullied by Levine, but totally understand your stance.

nice words

works both ways

Well, it was only a matter of time before common sense prevailed.

As far as I can see posts from Trouble and Paul-S have served no other purpose than to provoke a response from Levine in order to simply continue their ridicule/baiting of him.

Properly constructed questions, delivered with sincerity as opposed to sarcasm have been put forward by other (well respected) members and dealt with properly by Levine.

There may well be some self serving motive for IL to be on this forum, only he can say for certain if that is the case, but there is no point whatsover in putting up offensive and derogatory comments, disguised as pertinent questions, and then being surprised if there is no response.

It needn't have come to this because both Trouble and Paul-S could have stayed away from the threads as their involvement in previous IL threads fully documented their views on IL and his current views.

Fair do if you disagree with them, but for f**ks sake, how many times does that message have to be put across?

We got it, I'm sure IL got it, so why not leave it at that.

Some people can't help themselves, I suppose.

Edited January 12, 200916 yr by Jaco

There are people who are interested in Ian's involvement with artists, myself included. Can't you just leave us to it?

You're really earned my respect Dave, and please keep the questions coming. I will try to answer everything you can come up with.

I may have an answer to that question in a week's time that you're not expecting.

Stay tuned......

does that mean an imminent dj appearance somehwere soon to be finalised within a week or so??

Properly constructed questions, delivered with sincerity as opposed to sarcasm have been put forward by other (well respected) members and dealt with properly by Levine.

There may well be some self serving motive for IL to be on this forum, only he can say for certain if that is the case

I assure you it isn't.

If it was, it simply wouldn't be worth it, anyway.

I make music which has a Northern Soul feel.

Some love it, some hate it.

There are an awful lot of people on his forum who do love it, and I come on here to make myself available to answer their questions and inform them about music they may have otherwise missed.

But I'm not a politician, people don't vote for me, and I don't have to subject myself to any abuse.

The lovely comments I get from some people, and the heartwarming PMs I get, are what keeps me coming back on here. The people who do appreciate what I'm trying to do are the reason.

does that mean an imminent dj appearance somehwere soon to be finalised within a week or so??

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Edited January 12, 200916 yr by Ian Levine

I may have an answer to that question in a week's time that you're not expecting.

Stay tuned......

very interesting

Ian would you play a set of the records you wrote and produced over the years in that given hour if the chance arose or would you play tunes you used to play before becoming a writer producer

Bearsy

Our wonderful Queen of Detroit

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very interesting

Ian would you play a set of the records you wrote and produced over the years in that given hour if the chance arose or would you play tunes you used to play before becoming a writer producer

Bearsy

I would love to do the former, but never have done whilst ever DJing in the past.

Please remember I have been retired from DJing for six years now. The last was The Rocket in early 2003.

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couple of allnighters in aberdeen in april and sept lol

very interesting

Ian would you play a set of the records you wrote and produced over the years in that given hour if the chance arose or would you play tunes you used to play before becoming a writer producer

Bearsy

By the way.

Please remember I became a producer and writer in February 1975.

I DJ'd from November 1971 to July 1979 on the Northern Soul Scene, or what it became at Blackpool Mecca in the late 1970s.

I DJ'd at Heaven from December 1979 to February 1989.

I DJ'd intensely on the Northern Soul Scene from 1998 to 2003.

I would love to do the former, but never have done whilst ever DJing in the past.

Please remember I have been retired from DJing for six years now. The last was The Rocket in early 2003.

Ian you must of played a few of your tunes when djn at some stage in the past somewhere surely cos if i was you i know i would of done

couple of allnighters in aberdeen in april and sept lol

Nope. And too far. Although I did do one big spot for Yogi Haughton in Edinburgh, since my 2003 retirement.

Mind you, I also DJ'd for Richard Searling in 1983, with Colin Curtis, Les Cokell, Kev Roberts, and Tony Jebb, at a big Mecca Reunion type allnighter in Manchester, with J.J. Barnes singing live.

And for Russ Winstanley's big Mecca reunion in 1992, which was supposed to be in the original building, but when we got there, there was a bloke with a sandwich board redirecting everyone to Central Pier. I still did it, but Colin Curtis got back in his car and drove back to Stoke in disgust.

Ian you must of played a few of your tunes when djn at some stage in the past somewhere surely cos if i was you i know i would of done

Of course.

Especially back in the Blackpool days.

"Reaching For The Best" broke out of there.

And yes in the early years of this decade, I played both Venicia Wilson and The Four Vandals.

Ian you must of played a few of your tunes when djn at some stage in the past somewhere surely cos if i was you i know i would of done

The point being that I would have LOVED to do a big spot of just my own work, but there have been too many detractors who'd have made too much noise about it.

I resign myself to the fact that in 100 years time, future historians of our music will be mystified and perplexed by the way I was treated at the time by many of my contemporaries.

Remember how the Victorians treated Oscar Wilde.

The point being that I would have LOVED to do a big spot of just my own work, but there have been too many detractors who'd have made too much noise about it.

I resign myself to the fact that in 100 years time, future historians of our music will be mystified and perplexed by the way I was treated at the time by many of my contemporaries.

Remember how the Victorians treated Oscar Wilde.

Oscar Wilde who she

Why not just do a spot of your own music though Ian, like you say you have so many fans out there that do appreciate your music so surely if there is a demand for your tracks then who better than yourself to play them out

I assure you it isn't.

If it was, it simply wouldn't be worth it, anyway.

I make music which has a Northern Soul feel.

Some love it, some hate it.

There are an awful lot of people on his forum who do love it, and I come on here to make myself available to answer their questions and inform them about music they may have otherwise missed.

But I'm not a politician, people don't vote for me, and I don't have to subject myself to any abuse.

The lovely comments I get from some people, and the heartwarming PMs I get, are what keeps me coming back on here. The people who do appreciate what I'm trying to do are the reason.

Ian, may i ask, what is it?, you are trying to do....As this, i feel, is what disgruntles me about about your end product, in terms of music, I don't understand what you are trying to do. Obviously, I'm from the "some hate it" sect. And a small insight into the above question may shed some light!!

Oscar Wilde who she

Why not just do a spot of your own music though Ian, like you say you have so many fans out there that do appreciate your music so surely if there is a demand for your tracks then who better than yourself to play them out

We did the launch nights at The Ion Bar.

The one for "Northern Soul 2008" had twenty live acts on, all doing their songs, and Simon White DJing all night only playing my productions.

Lots of members of Soul Source were there, and there was a great atmosphere. It really worked actually. And the more recent launch for the five disc DVD set was amazing. Even Ady Croasdell was there, along with Ron Tyson from The Temptations, and tons of amazing guests.

Ian, may i ask, what is it?, you are trying to do....As this, i feel, is what disgruntles me about about your end product, in terms of music, I don't understand what you are trying to do. Obviously, I'm from the "some hate it" sect. And a small insight into the above question may shed some light!!

I'm trying to make great records with great singers which artistically appeal to me and also to many people who agree with me.

If you think there's no-one interested, go on YouTube and look through the comments people leave.

So, while you're here, please can you explain something back to me ??

You're being very nice and polite, but you say you're from the "some hate it" sect.

Fair enough.

But why come onto this thread to read it ?? It would be like me going on a Dolly parton thread on a country forum. I can't understand why, if someone is not interested in Ian Levine's productions, why not just give it a wide berth ?? I'm not getting at you, I promise, I'm just deeply curious to find out.

As another example, there's a thread on here called "Mr Day + The Dynamics New Single Favorite Recordings" - it's of no interest to me personally, so I would never bother going into the thread.

People have complained that I'm not spreading myself all over the place on here, but my mind still reasons that if they don't like what I do, they can simply steer clear. You know, Posstot, I so wish that were the case. I hope you also realise I'm genuinely curious at this, and I assure you I'm not digging at you in any way. Please feel free to dislike whatever I do, as long as it's not personal or malicious.