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So the similarities in the musical riffs, timber in sound and musical composition of the Aspirations/Admirations 'I want to be free' with the Ringleaders 'baby, what has happen to our love' which dates early 1966 apparently, could set it there accordingly if we would consider them being from the same studio recording take for example. But could be another way around as well and instead of being an early effort not meeting the success expected with an attempt to be revived with the "new" name of the success formation, it could be a One-Derful reel studio tape saved by Eddie Silvers after the record company group sudden shut down by early 1968 and released aftermath. The fact that 'my admiration for you' B/W 'heaven in your arms' on Pare record is definitely their most "amateur" sounding record should by ear place it as their "beginning" record. But it could also be a later release from an old reel tape only release after their hits to "cash-in" on their One-Derful success and name fame...

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Why should the matrix be any issue ? They are all baring the same and sound the same I believe. It's just different labels variations and credits we're trying to explain in chronology or in the messing up in business if ever... No bootlegger inferior mastering as far as I know that is.

I doubt to see any of those duties drop. When such bilateral deals between States are reached, it aims at the big industries and never the consumers. Now easier to realize; eBay could just drop that terrible GSP crap thing and set the clock back ! And leave us to deal with such issues as before. Mind you eBay, Paypal and GSP are different tentacles from the same octopus and do their business on the back of both sellers and buyers is their moto. Sellers do pay fee on the post costs as well ! This is a "win - win" deal for them 3 !

WARNING !!! Outside Schengen eBay purchases on eBay USA through the GSP (not notified anymore on auction pages) now have the buyer to pay the stamps to the GSP center and this costs will be included in the value of the item to pre-calculate by eBay the import taxes supposedly due. The unfortunate buyer will be aware of the details of this rip-off through cross reading all following eBay and Paypal invoices received only once the whole payment is made. This means the refund in case of issue with the item (not as described...) will become much more hazardous. BEWARE ! eBay, Paypal and GSP are so interconnected and share of "heads" and wallets... nasty business in sight !

People HB worked with and others; exactly. Some names I like from your "soul" list here but none of their work in association. But this is merely my taste, so it's not to debate. Just the same; I love Phil Spector early 6T's work, don't care for his work for the Beatles and never liked the character. HB was talented as a business man with ego none the less. I was a Jamaican music lover and collector before being an American soul lover and collector, so I have met the name of HB prior with 6T's "ska" when it was a "jump in the commercial wagon" in the USA by 1964/1965... (sic). Northern Soul being my "HQ", as a crate digger I have had to listen and discover many records and got to love other "schools" of soul music along the way and this ear self education lead me to part the Soul in and from the Northern. Soul that is ! Like many I have my guilty secrets, but unlike these "mystery tracks", I will always defend mind, body and soul the Soul in the Northern. At least that is what I believe I am hearing and errrh doing... Now I doubt that... LOL ! This to say, I was too rarely impressed or pleased by the HB "touch". So serving as credential for something that... years ago I had all the pain in the world to sell on, really doesn't do it for me. Sincerely with no offense to anyone on here, tastes are that, at least I have learned things on the "artist" and can say more than never on that Dora as to why my NO GO !

OK, finally comparison in view and sound. View; LEFT scan of matrix of the FIRST press with channels missing then RiGHT matrix of SECOND press. Both with the 'Nashville' mastering and the 'ARP' pressing plant machine stamp (in different places) but with the hand scratched in 'ZTSC' initial catalogue number on the RIGHT strike through with the new attributed catalogue number scratched in as this SECOND press release is actually a new TAKE that requires a new take catalogue number ! My theory is that the sound engineer forgot/lost one or more channel (bass, baritone...) during the recording session on the first take. And if even Emanuel Laskey voice sounds less crisp/sharp on this second take ,this is how it sounds when one cuts the bass; highs sounds different, louder and upfront. Hear the sound recordings lift of them both records done at the same time one after the other and at the very same volume. First take is the FIRST/LEFT release then at 2:50 the SECOND/RIGHT one ! don't lead me on 3.mp3 Hope this settles this quest once and for all.

HB is no SOUL pedigree in my book. Not to diss the man or his work, but he was never a "soul hero" IMO. Good at what he did but rarely "on the edge" of sounds, emotions or lyrics. I still love his 'too hurt to cry' which it's his most "northern soul" emblematic song IMHO ! But further there is not much he's done with his voice on the "soul" side. And if he's done few descent productions, arrangements and compositions, off which not many come to my mind instantly, he's more and most of the time on "pop" commercial projects than anything else. On the pay back side of things, I wish him that the money was good with the Dora Hall productions as sacrifice... LOL

OK so 4 variations... 2 Aspirations with logo once left and once right on the label and 2 Admirations with pale pink at the bottom on label and the "new" one from JM auction with pale pink at the top of label !!! Likely from the same batch but with the paper label upside down done at the (mis)press. My copy of the Aspirations with the logo on the right of the label was acquired in Chicago in a second hand record store and had a distributor promo sticker on it. That I "stupidly" removed and threw in the bin back then. So likely comes from the very first batch of press. To this day the Aspirations copies are by far the rarests.

The Peps copy is much harder to come by than the Fabulous Peps one but the prices it sells for doesn't seem to reflect that. At least as far as I've seen. In the books it might be else but not in real life where the frequent auction averages determine that.

Plain and simple bootleg I'd say... But it's in STEREO !!!

Park or Sark any which way it is from Holland and not Belgium.

Skinhead are wearing braces and big boots. Mind me too (toe ?) ! (Derrick Morgan)

Complete with it's birth sleeve in Excellent overall condition the first official commercialized pressing of Frank Wilson 'do I love you'. frank wilson tmg.mp3 Scans and sound clip of both sides with needle drop and lift from actual record for sale. £75 FREE SHIPPING ALL OVER THE WORLD. ADD £6 TO HAVE IT REGISTERED. Grading through M - EX - VG - G... PM me to inquire

Nope ! Me also. Even if I prefer 'express your love' if we're talking of that 'island sound'. As for the 'cry love' 45 I also favor 'I don't know what you're full of' side. Messy-funky-jerky-teeny imperfection, barely bearable but so full of intensity... I loved it instantly !

Very first press is the plain white label (no promo inscription though) then the plain black stocker. Then later the issues with the lines promo (black and red writing) then the lined black stocker likely to supply demand. The "lookalike" bootleg made in the mid 9T's (if my memory...) is taken from the first promo but it is vinyl unlike the original ones who are all styrene. It was made for the pop-corn scene I believe, but who by then had already some linked people with the northern soul scene all over the world for the business as well.

Looking for a super clean PROMO (not the stocker) at a realistic market price. PM me if ever.

OK, so this is exactly the same fonts used as the reissue which is only a replica of the original. By the label there is no evident way to tell them appart. That established, the original poster wanted to know how to tell them appart. That can be done by checking the matrix. My friend who provided the scan and matrix of his reissue don't owe the original and likely got mislead by providing the catalogue number likely sourced from the sometime misinformed tinternet. So to make things definitive, the matrix of the reissue reads : "ar 51006a-2" and the original is "A-2001" and "10698".

OK, but could you provide us with a scan of the label ?

Are those reissues as well then ?

No-no-no, the left one is the official reissue that came with the nice picture sleeve. It's a friend that just did me this scan... What scan posted earlier ?

matrix of the reissue is :ar 51006a-2, where on the original it reads : 1-1572 visually very much alike... LEFT reissue RIGHT original

Nice and clean copy there. There is also the white demo RCA press. Apparently one (or maybe) both vinyl presses (demo and stockers) have a pressing flaw on the 'devil with the blue dress' side that causes a "jump" off the groove at around 1 minute. I don't know for fact since my stocker is the west coast styrene edition that doesn't have that "supposed" issue. Yet to see a styrene demo now !