Mick Holdsworth

OK Dave, if you have it then it must be right - I'm going by a vague memory and having the record for 5 minutes in 1980 ish - Just as a matter of interest was the standard release of "Be Happy/Inst also on 6702 ? Merry Christmas Mick

Hi Dave - Think it was 6701 for both "Be Happy" and the misspress "Together". Cheers Mick

It's back now - probably a server glitch

Ac Actually, it's his only Decca song that is NOT on a Decca or Brunswick album, either 123 or ITTOTY

Think this was a "teaching tool" for a press operator - First day on the job, basically he was given any old unwanted labels and any stampers to learn how to press a record. Once he was compitent, he could then get to work on "real" records. John Manship had a similar record not too long ago. Some UK motown record but with a 50's capitol label on one side and some other similar non-related label on the other side. Cheers Mick

I've only seen the Panic / Unsatisfied before - the reddish release. I didn't know about the second yellow press until now with "What Am I Crying For" flip. Cheers Mick

Yes, from about 4/5 years ago - they appear regularly for about £5 / £10 I like the B side too

Saw this as £31 a couple of days ago ... https://www.ebay.co.u...em=160681491596 Just checked and now £67 Ouch

Ah ha - Yes it was

Good question - Don't know - It may breach some laws, but I would think Misrepresentation would only come in to play if the said c/u was NOT the correct record, irrespective of the c/u title or the real credits. For example, if we were to step back in time a couple of years and I were to sell Belita Woods - "Foolish Girl" as a cover up - and supply to the buyer a copy of Tiaras on Op Art - that would not really be misrepresentation as the buyer got Exactly what he or she wanted. If, however, I were to supply a copy of Dee Dee Warwick* - Foolish Girl instead, then that would be misrepresentation (and a few other questionable things too). (* - or was it Dionne Warwick? I can't remember now) How many Moms and Dads will be going to Santa's Grotto this week - pay a set fee and receive "something" wrapped up in Christmas paper - isn't this similar. (I've never gone to these kinds of places, but i'm assuming the parents know what they are supposedly bying in advance) These are all opinions, I have no knowledge of law regarding these matters. If anyone does know, it would be very interesting to see. Cheers Mick

Agreed, a lot of these records did come out in Australia and other countries on the same and different labels, but I think this thread was about USA label releases, identical to their standard large hole release, but with small hole. The Gwen Owens I was on about was "You Better Watch Out", and the Moments was either Girls, girls, Girls or Look At Me, not on Philips, but US Stang. Cheers Mick

Frank Beverly sounds nice

If it's the "lined" label, the orig should be 2:35 long whereas the boot is 2:01 for some reason. There are other differences and other label designs. Have a look here ... Cheers Mick

There's been quite a few soul (and other) releases with small holes. Frankie Crocker / Sandy Waddy (red SOS) / Eddie Regan (demo) / Gwen Owens (Casablanca) / Schatz / one of the Moments' Stang releases / Cornelius Bros (Too Late) / .. loads more. I used to collect oddities like this in the late 70's / early 80's - At the time, we all thought they were New York releases. Cheers Mick

My own copy which I bought from either Gary Rushbrooke or Sam was covered up as Melvin Davis "These Windows Can't Hide" (as "Find a Quiet Place" was big at the time). My earlier post may have got missed, but this copy for sale at the moment, is it "Village Sound" or "Village Sounds" - I've had both a few times over the years - but more fractionally more copies of "Village Sound" seem to have come my way. No idea which is original though. Cheers Mick

Is it "Village Sound" or "Village Sounds" - I've had both a few times over the years - but more fractionally more copies of "Village Sound" seem to have come my way. No idea which is original.

"Ain't It Baby" very nearly never happened. Last year, John Rhys related an episode where the "Motown Thugs" broke in and took the original master of this song and wheeled it down Davison Avenue - never to be seen again. It was only through John's foresight that he made a back up copy in an adjacent room, thus the recording managed to survive, and get it's deserved release on Arctic. I also understand that "Laws Of Love" was also a GW recording. Cheers Mick

I think these two were issued on a goldmine white label test press about 6 years ago. The other one was Ann Byres backed with Inspirations

Ah, I missed that, quite a big clue really. Sorry Ivor.

Ivor, how come you waited over 18 months to bring this to light, of have you said this before and are just posting to reiterate the point. - If so forget my question. Cheers Mick

A similar thing is the Spinners release of "That's What Girls ... " This was released by Pye in Australia - I suppose Pye in Australia must have somehow confused it with their own group of the same name. Cheers Mick

Cody Michaels and all the Concept variations

Thanks folks - it was for some stuff to put on eBay, and their catagories are ... Dancehall / Dub / Ska / Roots ... and Other. So I suppuse "Other" covers this lot

That's what I would like to know - 70's / 80's Stuff like bob marley / Island and Johnny Nash CBS etc. Is it Dancehall or is that something more specialist. Cheers Mick

The seller emailed me about a week ago - told him they were all boots / reissues etc - didn't send images, then told me the M Lance had a big 45 in label, so told him it was probably original, although with reservations over the stamper number he quoted. Also laid out differences between orig and reissue for Not Me Baby / Florence D and a couple of others. Never heard back from him so assumed he was then aware of what to look for. This is the first time I have seen the scans - I now see (as I suspected) the Major Lance has small 45, so I think he either hasn't a clue or something else. Just noticed - the potential buyer doesn't get all the records - you have to tell him which one you are bidding on ???? This'll be fun. Cheers mick