I bought this blind a couple of weeks back, THE RHYTHM RASCALS (WITH BEBBIE BOY BUTCH) - GIRL BY MY SIDE / WHY DO YOU HAVE TO GO - SONIC 117. has this ever been played? Side 1 is an uptempo dancer with shades of The Blendels "You need love" in the chorus while side 2 is a beautiful soulful downtempo/beat ballad which is a cross between I Do Love You and No Time For You. Blown away by both sides, seriously, even if it turns out to be a 5 quid cheapie.

Came out on Roulette as well. The beat ballad side has the same backing as the flip to the Soul Communicators on Fee Bee "please don't go". Think the group was somehow connected to Fee Bee and/or Chuck Corby??

Came out on Roulette as well. The beat ballad side has the same backing as the flip to the Soul Communicators on Fee Bee "please don't go". Think the group was somehow connected to Fee Bee and/or Chuck Corby??

I think you are spot on as it does say Fee bee in the run off groove.

I think you are spot on as it does say Fee bee in the run off groove.

wasnt by the rythmm rascals on roulette though i do have both they are exactly the same so they probably just had a name change for the national release.

mark

wasnt by the rythmm rascals on roulette though i do have both they are exactly the same so they probably just had a name change for the national release.

mark

It is the rhythm rascals on Roulette also Mark

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I bought this blind a couple of weeks back, THE RHYTHM RASCALS (WITH BEBBIE BOY BUTCH) - GIRL BY MY SIDE / WHY DO YOU HAVE TO GO - SONIC 117. has this ever been played? Side 1 is an uptempo dancer with shades of The Blendels "You need love" in the chorus while side 2 is a beautiful soulful downtempo/beat ballad which is a cross between I Do Love You and No Time For You. Blown away by both sides, seriously, even if it turns out to be a 5 quid cheapie.

Couldn't agree with you more!! Pete always rated this,great double sider,thought I was the only one.Am sure Girl by my side is also the backing track to Chuck Corby on Fee Bee,think it's called Baby I need you(Red Label/Black writing) notice that on the Sonic copy it has Sonic records,Hollywood,anyone know anything about the label?

Can anyone post a clip of the 'Girl' side?

cheers

John

Can anyone post a clip of the 'Girl' side?

cheers

John

https://motownsound.co.uk/salessounds/ try this John

https://motownsound.co.uk/salessounds/ try this John

Cheers Nev - It's the same as Chuck Corby, cracking sound

I have added by sides of the above mentioned record so people can have a listen,not sure what happened to the text on the "why do you have to go" clip i just edited it and it went funny but i think it still plays.

Anyway a great double sider which i have had for years and always loved,for me the "why do you have to go" side does it for me more and liked mentioned earlier it shares the same backing and vocally similar to soul communicaters "please don't go" on fee bee and i just noticed that the rhythm rascals is a febe music tune.

Enjoy folks and thanks Pete for reminding me about this tune

Edited December 8, 200915 yr by Guest

I have added by sides of the above mentioned record so people can have a listen,not sure what happend to the text on the "why do you have to go" clip i just edited it and it went funny but i think it still plays.

Anyway a great double sider which i have had for years and always loved,for me the "why do you have to go" side does it for me more and liked mentioned earlier it shares the same backing and vocally similar to soul communicaters "please don't go" on fee bee and i just noticed that the rhythm rascals is a febe music tune.

Enjoy folks and thanks pete for reminding me about this tune

Sorry clicked twice double post how do i delete?

Couldn't agree with you more!! Pete always rated this,great double sider,thought I was the only one.Am sure Girl by my side is also the backing track to Chuck Corby on Fee Bee,think it's called Baby I need you(Red Label/Black writing) notice that on the Sonic copy it has Sonic records,Hollywood,anyone know anything about the label?

Got the Chuck Corby on Fee Bee (119) it's called "I need your love", exactly the same as Rhythm Rascals on Roulette.

Chuck also recorded "Complete opposites" which came out on Chess, also came out on Sonic under another artist name. Got to double check whether this is the same as Chuck Corby, or him under another name.

So the connection with Fee Bee looks about right.

a cross between I Do Love You and No Time For You.

Interesting that Pete.

I covered it up as Billy Stewart... nearly 30 years ago!

Great track!

Sean

Got the Chuck Corby on Fee Bee (119) it's called "I need your love", exactly the same as Rhythm Rascals on Roulette.

Chuck also recorded "Complete opposites" which came out on Chess, also came out on Sonic under another artist name. Got to double check whether this is the same as Chuck Corby, or him under another name.

So the connection with Fee Bee looks about right.

Rhythm Rascals is, according to the soul harmony singles book:

Jerry Hilton

Cleveland "Butch" Martin

Earl Thompson

Robert Thompson

Jim Mitchell (bass)

Formerly the R&B group the Diadems and, except for mitchell, later of the Del Vikings on Fee Bee. It doesn't mention this but Jerry Hilton was obviously in jerry hilton and Gentle Rain.

Interesting that Pete.

I covered it up as Billy Stewart... nearly 30 years ago!

Great track!

Sean

I'd forgotten all about this, had a copy around the same time as you Sean, played it a few times but no big reaction so must have sold it...can't for the life of me think who to though!

Thanks to everyone for their input on this, nice to know a few people rate it and very interesting to find out some facts behind it, I'd honestly never heard of it. One of those I wouldn't have minded keeping but needs must.

wasnt by the rythmm rascals on roulette though i do have both they are exactly the same so they probably just had a name change for the national release.

mark

i know what it was that threw me i also had the chuck corby and at the same time thats what made me think of different group names, Rythmm Rascals did get a listing in Ian Levines rarest of the rare.

mark

Got the Chuck Corby on Fee Bee (119) it's called "I need your love", exactly the same as Rhythm Rascals on Roulette.

Chuck also recorded "Complete opposites" which came out on Chess, also came out on Sonic under another artist name. Got to double check whether this is the same as Chuck Corby, or him under another name.

So the connection with Fee Bee looks about right.

Thats the one Martyn,Fee Bee 119 alway's gettin' me titles mixed up!!

Regards,Arthur.

i know what it was that threw me i also had the chuck corby and at the same time thats what made me think of different group names, Rythmm Rascals did get a listing in Ian Levines rarest of the rare.

mark

Still a £40 record on the rarest label and about £20 tops on roulette

Still a £40 record on the rarest label and about £20 tops on roulette

Unless Butch plays it and then it's suddenly worth £300.

SWONS.

Any one want to buy mine off me. Been in my Sales box for moooooonnnnsssssss!!

Scottish soulie mid-tempo connisseurs will remember this from the mid 80s, 'Why...' a tape swapper fave! though been around before that by what Sean says. Affordable/overlooked, everybody should have one, 'Why do you have to go' defo the superior side - this record is SUBLIME, in fact a lot like Bobby Samsom on Sublime!

I'm sure I heard someone play this out at Morely Carr...

Mark

Edited December 9, 200915 yr by mark w.

'Why do you have to go' defo the superior side - this record is SUBLIME, in fact a lot like Bobby Samsom on Sublime!

I'm sure I heard someone play this out at Morely Carr...

Mark

As good as it is Mark (and it really is good) it's poor compared to the Soul Communicators "Please don't go"

Still a £40 record on the rarest label and about £20 tops on roulette

Thought Chuck Corby was worth double, and not as easy to come by as Rhythm Rascals.

Let me know if you see one for that price?

Thought Chuck Corby was worth double, and not as easy to come by as Rhythm Rascals.

Let me know if you see one for that price?

Nev is pretty much spot on with his prices imo Martyn.

On saying that I've got an Ex copy of the Rhythm Rascals on Roulette for £10 if anybody wants it....

P.S. Why does 'Rhythm' get spelt wrong so often on this site

"Chuck Corby - I Need Your Love" was also "booted/reissued" on a lookalike "Fee Bee" for the other side, which was a popular toon in Pittsburgh. It ain't rare, just sat in the collections of a lot of "Pittsburgh oldies" fans.

Des Parker

Nev is pretty much spot on with his prices imo Martyn.

On saying that I've got an Ex copy of the Rhythm Rascals on Roulette for £10 if anybody wants it....

P.S. Why does 'Rhythm' get spelt wrong so often on this site

I've pm'd you regarding that 45. If you still got it I'll have it for a tenner.

I've pm'd you regarding that 45. If you still got it I'll have it for a tenner.

PMed you back mate....already gone I'm afraid.

For the price of 3 pints and a pack of pork scratchings...

Just come across this topic. Have had both Chuck Corby (Fee Bee) and Rhythm Rascals (Sonic) for years and to my ears Chuck Corby has trumpet/horns in backing whilst Rhythm Rascals has saxophone. Also Rhythm Rascals does not have as much base.

Couldn’t choose between them as I think both versions are great.

You're right. Not the same singers nor the same instrumental take. The Chuck Corby for me does it better with the little necessary Oomps that really lacks in the Rhythm Rascals 'light'n'tight' version that, no offense to anyone, I never liked.

Also available as an Italian 45-