I know that there was a huge number of pages that sprang up following Daves post about the Stafford re-union back in April but to honest I don't have time to sift through that lot to see if these were posted up. First is the flyer for the Eddie Parker & Lorraine Chandler gig (which was effin awesome) and the other an article from Echoes of 1985.

That Black Echoes page is a classic in itself...thanks for posting Mick...brought a smile to me face.

That will be a young Butch in the photo and with hair, bless him

Great stuff. I remember reading the Echoes article at the bus stop going to school and marvelling at the label scans, particularly the Troy Dodds.

Can anyone name all the cover-ups?

Great stuff. I remember reading the Echoes article at the bus stop going to school and marvelling at the label scans, particularly the Troy Dodds.

I used to dream about the Soul Set scan...those were the days when you thought you could never, ever own such discs!

Can anyone name all the cover-ups?

There's a few I don't know in there......but Susan Rewis, Eddie Parker I know.......like you, I would like to know the others.

Cheers,

Mark R

Moving Parts = Jimmy Seals - Challenge

Brooks Brothers = Headliners - Luau

Jack Montgomery = Don & Juan - Mala

Lee Valentine & Bluesmen - Bunny Sigler - Decca

Denita James = Susan Rewis - Columbia

Geraldine Jones & Floorshakers - Margie Hendrix - Mercury

Carol Anderson and Larry Hale...kicking myself over these two...argh!

Remember Eddie and Lorraine at Stafford because it was my 21st birthday night!...it's on my webpage! (below)...and you are correct totally awesome night...especially Eddie in his Zulu outfit if memory serves me correctly?

Girlfriend at the time was most p*ssed off I buggered off and left her on my birthday!

Here's some of the C90 I did recorded on the night!

lorraine chandler - live -

lorrraine chandler - i can't hold on -

lorraine chandler - what can i do -

eddie parker - i'm gone -

eddie parker - love you baby -stafford live -

I've also cleaned up the echoes page you posted and turned round as was getting a crick in my neck!

Edited August 5, 201014 yr by soulechoes

That will be a young Butch in the photo and with hair, bless him

You may still have a full head of hair Mr Thorley but most of us have lost some if not all of ours......

Re the C/U's I can't think of the Carol Anderson or Larry Hale either but here are a couple more from back in the day for a quiz (C/U artists only to make it a little more difficult)!

Johnny Honeycut

Big Joe's Ivory Brass

Lou Pride

Johnny Hendley

The Agents (one of my favs from Keb then Rob Marriott)

The Ambassadors (I believe Terry found a heap of these at Global in Manchester)

Eddie Lyons

Mick

Re the C/U's I can't think of the Carol Anderson or Larry Hale either but here are a couple more from back in the day for a quiz (C/U artists only to make it a little more difficult)!

Johnny Honeycut

Mick

Arthur Alexander - Keep Her Guessing - Dot ?

Arthur Alexander - Keep Her Guessing - Dot ?

Spot on. Knew you'd get most if not all of these Chalky....

Mick

Re the C/U's I can't think of the Carol Anderson or Larry Hale either but here are a couple more from back in the day for a quiz (C/U artists only to make it a little more difficult)!

Johnny Honeycut Arthur Alexander - Keep her Guessing - Dot

Big Joe's Ivory Brass Big Frank & Essence

Lou Pride Hayes Cotton

Johnny Hendley

The Agents (one of my favs from Keb then Rob Marriott)

The Ambassadors (I believe Terry found a heap of these at Global in Manchester)

Eddie Lyons June Jackson on Musette ?

Mick

other three will have to think about?

was johnny hendley the lonely for you baby-sam dees or was that covered as dan brantley ?

jason

Sam Dees was covered as Dan Brantley, I have Ady Pountain to thank for that.

I know that there was a huge number of pages that sprang up following Daves post about the Stafford re-union back in April but to honest I don't have time to sift through that lot to see if these were posted up. First is the flyer for the Eddie Parker & Lorraine Chandler gig (which was effin awesome) and the other an article from Echoes of 1985.

B-hell I was 18.

As Dave says ... it still makes me smile when I look in my box now and see things like the Cairos, Soul Set, Royal Robins, Don and Juan, Fantasians; all TOTW tunes and absolutely mythical records for a yoof buying boots and the odd cheap thing off Mr Brady's list: "buy it now before the price rockets" ... never a truer word!!!

Remember meeting up with a lad called Joe Skillern (a butcher from Loughborough way as I recall) on the train a couple of times and he supplied me with some great newies tapes. Dunno what happened to him as we lost touch when Stafford finished but wherever you are thanks mate

Unbelievable times which, unbeknowns to me, would shape my taste forever!

ps. Who first introduced the latin stuff?

Unbelievable times which, unbeknowns to me, would shape my taste forever!

Ditto PhilT...still mainly Stafford tunes I buy!

Ditto PhilT...still mainly Stafford tunes I buy!

Think I get on a few people's tits banging on about it at times

Think I get on a few people's tits banging on about it at times

lol Ditto again!

Have a look my Youtube videos to prove the point!

lol Ditto again!

Have a look my Youtube videos to prove the point!

Guess what, I was watching em t'other day funnily enough

thebig thing about stafford for me was the secrecy of it all,the illusiveness,the unknown,the covered up,as a 16yr old boy i was fascinated by this magical and sometimes dark place,the kebites who would dress like him, the strange wind up characters, tunes that we wouldnt be told the name of and that seemed as rare as monet paintings,i loved it,lovedit with a passion and as already said it shaped my life musically,it ws 25 years ago but to me it was the greatest allnighter ever

jason

thebig thing about stafford for me was the secrecy of it all,the illusiveness,the unknown,the covered up,as a 16yr old boy i was fascinated by this magical and sometimes dark place,the kebites who would dress like him, the strange wind up characters, tunes that we wouldnt be told the name of and that seemed as rare as monet paintings,i loved it,lovedit with a passion and as already said it shaped my life musically,it ws 25 years ago but to me it was the greatest allnighter ever

jason

Summed up nicely Arnie...never really thought about it, always put it down to the awesome tunes, progressive musical policy and fantastic "happening scene" atmosphere...but you are spot on...it was far more than that...Dave you made a magical place...one that has touched many of the people who went there...it shaped who I am as a person...not just my musical taste.

Itt was Willie Kendricks 'change your ways' that first gave me the WTF is THIS hit the first time I went to a nighter and Stafford did that with knobs on, regularly. As has been said many times, probably a combination of a whole range of factors, including my age, growing interest in rare soul / records, turnover of tunes, quality of the line up etc etc, but there was undeniably something different and special about it and you sort of knew it somehow, without knowing what or why it was - at least I didn't at the time. I've never felt it anywhere since, not even close.

You may still have a full head of hair Mr Thorley but most of us have lost some if not all of ours......

Think you had more than your fair share of hair back then Mick, serves you right for growing it so long

Regards Tom

Johnny Honeycut Arthur Alexander - Keep her Guessing - Dot

Big Joe's Ivory Brass Big Frank & Essence

Lou Pride Hayes Cotton

Johnny Hendley - LARRY DAVIS - KENT

The Agents (one of my favs from Keb then Rob Marriott) - DYNAMIC THREE - DEL VAL

The Ambassadors (I believe Terry found a heap of these at Global in Manchester) WILLIE HARPER - ALON

Eddie Lyons June Jackson on Musette ?

Gary Sole (Knight) was also played as 'The Agents', and the Determinations (King) as the Ambassadors, but these were Rushbrooke Casino sounds that spilled over into Stafford...as quite a few other discs did.

There are just short of x600 cover up disc details over on my website >>> AnoraksCorner Cover Up List <<<...but 'Carol Anderson' and 'Larry Hale' are still doing my head in!

Carol Anderson wasn't the flip side of the Headliners was it, I remember being at his house and he played the flip of something like that and it was very good in its own right so he covered it as something totally different, didn't he also play flip side of Turbines c/u, although can't imagine that being a female vocal somehow.

I could be completely wrong however as Keb turned over one or two records a second at that time!!

Great article Mick, and some great insightful writing from Mr Whittington, succesfully following in the very large shoes of Stuart Cosgrove, which when you think about it there was some real quality journalism about the scene then.

Mick you got the article about the Fife allnighters that Mr Cosgrove did, just want to see my name in print again.......

Carol Anderson wasn't the flip side of the Headliners was it, I remember being at his house and he played the flip of something like that and it was very good in its own right so he covered it as something totally different, didn't he also play flip side of Turbines c/u, although can't imagine that being a female vocal somehow.

I could be completely wrong however as Keb turned over one or two records a second at that time!!

Great article Mick, and some great insightful writing from Mr Whittington, succesfully following in the very large shoes of Stuart Cosgrove, which when you think about it there was some real quality journalism about the scene then.

Mick you got the article about the Fife allnighters that Mr Cosgrove did, just want to see my name in print again.......

great times indeed, because of the large turnover of records the quality control slipped at times. The important thing was that they were trying something different and like others that have written about it I was a 19 year old mod when I first went.

I remember chatting to Keb about missing out on the past ( Wigan, Torch etc) and he said this is going to have it's own history and he was right.

Loved the Fife allnighters Jock, it was absolutely bonkers, dancing on tables etc. I'd love to see the article too as I've never seen it.

.but 'Carol Anderson' and 'Larry Hale' are still doing my head in!

Just swapped emails with GuyH...he can't recall these two either.

Just swapped emails with GuyH...he can't recall these two either.

Shot in the dark, as i dont know when this was popular, but could Carol Anderson be the Jelly Beans?

Shot in the dark, as i dont know when this was popular, but could Carol Anderson be the Jelly Beans?

would have thought that was a well known oldie by then?

The Only one I can think of with that (or similar) title is Reuben Wright on Capitol but Kingy played that as Eddie Holman. I've played the reuben Wright out, file is in refosoul.

Great article Mick, and some great insightful writing from Mr Whittington, succesfully following in the very large shoes of Stuart Cosgrove, which when you think about it there was some real quality journalism about the scene then.

Mick you got the article about the Fife allnighters that Mr Cosgrove did, just want to see my name in print again.......

Jock me old china

Will have a route around & see what I can dig out re Cosgrove (St Johnstone - pah....) - fairly sure I have some stuff by him from back in the day.

I do have something though that I'm going to scan some extracts from which will be a bit of a nostalgia trip not least to you young man.

Between Flynny and Chalky all the C/U's I put up have been er..... uncovered

The Carol Anderson & Larry Hale, however, still eludes.

Mick

Mick

Think you had more than your fair share of hair back then Mick, serves you right for growing it so long

Regards Tom

Oh Tom

You're not wrong mate. I used to do all sorts with it - pleats, extensions, crops, bleach, you name it.

Sadly those days are gone so I've reverted to my first 'proper' haircut - a skinhead (c/w lambchops).....

Mick

The Carol Anderson & Larry Hale, however, still eludes.

I think the Larry Hale was Eugene Church on World Pacific Records, if so I claim my 'Dollar Bill'

am i right in thinking that clyde mcphatter-two lonely peoplecant afford to cry was covered as ernie andrews-neither will i ? also johnny my boy was covered as magnetics-maybe baby ?

jason

am i right in thinking that clyde mcphatter-two lonely peoplecant afford to cry was covered as ernie andrews-neither will i ? also johnny my boy was covered as magnetics-maybe baby ?

jason

Yes. Check the link in post 24 above to Dave's comprehensive listings of cover ups.

I think the Larry Hale was Eugene Church on World Pacific Records, if so I claim my 'Dollar Bill'

Simon

By jove I think you've got it Sir but did this actually get played out much? Far too fast then let alone now to dance to but a great tune nevertheless.

Mick

eugene church - dollar bill - world pacific

Simon

By jove I think you've got it Sir but did this actually get played out much? Far too fast then let alone now to dance to but a great tune nevertheless.

Mick

I was trying to think of a record with the word sorry in the lyrics that Keb would have had around that time and the only one I remembered was the Topics - Have Your Fun. However, that was C/U as Phil Orsi and uncovered earlier. I found 2 of 3 tapes that Keb did for me, and on one is the Eugene Church, which funnily enough play a lot faster than the records do. The tape's labelled 'Keb Darge 60's Newies 17/5/85', compare the date of the tape and the Echo's article.

Simon

By jove I think you've got it Sir but did this actually get played out much? Far too fast then let alone now to dance to but a great tune nevertheless.

Mick

I was trying to think of a record with the word sorry in the lyrics that Keb would have had around that time and the only one I remembered was the Topics - Have Your Fun. However, that was C/U as Phil Orsi and uncovered earlier. I found 2 of 3 tapes that Keb did for me, and on one is the Eugene Church, which funnily enough play a lot faster than the records do. The tape's labelled 'Keb Darge 60's Newies 17/5/85', compare the date of the tape and the Echo's article.

Jock me old china

Will have a route around & see what I can dig out re Cosgrove (St Johnstone - pah....) - fairly sure I have some stuff by him from back in the day.

I do have something though that I'm going to scan some extracts from which will be a bit of a nostalgia trip not least to you young man.

Mick

Well, as promised here is that nostalgia trip Jock.

I'm sure that a few others on here will remember this. This is the front page and your (I assume) resume of one of the Stafford anniversaries. I will post something else from this a lttile later.

I will also start a new thread re some stuff from Echoes including a Stuart Cosgrove piece although sadly I can' find the one that you referred to.

Enjoy:thumbsup:

Mick

Eddie parker at Stafford

top quote from the Echoes article -

"you see, the Top Dog Niter is strictly for the purist ":lol:

Never happier at any Niter before or since, TOTW was my nirvana, my happy place.....

p.s. if you didn't look at the time, I put some Stafford photos in the gallery around the time of the 25th Anniversary.

Jock me old china

Will have a route around & see what I can dig out re Cosgrove (St Johnstone - pah....) - fairly sure I have some stuff by him from back in the day.

I do have something though that I'm going to scan some extracts from which will be a bit of a nostalgia trip not least to you young man.

Between Flynny and Chalky all the C/U's I put up have been er..... uncovered

The Carol Anderson & Larry Hale, however, still eludes.

Mick

Mick

THE COVER UPS : BOTH PLAYED BY KEB : 1985ish

LARRY HALE - SORRY c/u - EUGENE CHURCH - DOLLAR BILL ( world pacific )

CAROL ANDERSON -YOU'VE DONE ME WRONG c/u - PENNY NORTH - THOUGHT I HAD A GOOD THING ( luau )

Eddie parker at Stafford

Eddie Parker sandwiched between two dodgy characters the sauve Tony Parker andthe boyish Andy Spencer, both guys had a tune or two in there time.

Dave

Eddie parker at Stafford

Theres a small rodent stuck under Tony Parkers nose ... can anyone identify it?