Anyone know what Ginger called it when he first spun it out?

Ady

Anyone know what Ginger called it when he first spun it out?

Ady

Sometimes cover up names used to vary on daily basis didn't they? I'm sure I heard it referred to as "Burning Bush" by "The Burning Bush" on at least one occasion (Wakefield Unity maybe?)

The rest of the time I think it was, quite inappropriately, The Gems.

Gems - you're putting me on

Thanks folks.

Ady

still rare on a red issue...got booted on contact if i remember rightly..

Danny Schloss was lead singer. All white band produced by Woodstock legend Artie Kornfeld.

Isn't this also collected for the B side by Psych Types?

Just a thought, was there a connection to the group Ujima,apparently they had 2 band members that were in a group called The Burning Bush [or maybe this is a different group called The Burning Bush?] checkout Ujima website:- https://www.myspace.com/ujimaband

ktf

tfk

Edited February 15, 201114 yr by TFK

Isn't this also collected for the B side by Psych Types?

collected for both sides by the garage / freakbeat / psych types

Sometimes cover up names used to vary on daily basis didn't they? I'm sure I heard it referred to as "Burning Bush" by "The Burning Bush" on at least one occasion (Wakefield Unity maybe?)

The rest of the time I think it was, quite inappropriately, The Gems.

Think it was Richard Searling who to introduce it as "Burning Bush" by "The Burning Bush"????He did introduce it as just......... here's "The Bush!!"

Cheers

Martyn

Just a thought, was there a connection to the group Ujima,apparently they had 2 band members that were in a group called The Burning Bush [or maybe this is a different group called The Burning Bush?] checkout Ujima website:- https://www.myspace.com/ujimaband

ktf

tfk

the burning bush were indeed musicians for the band ujima.......they used to go around nick collerans house to play, nick was in a group around the early 60's called the escorts and went into the recording game very early...he formed alpha audio studios which produced/engineered so many amazing soul acts..standing room only/starfire/poison to name just a few..

ive spoke to nick over many years and he even has unreleased ujima material plus "im not ready" by burning bush..

currently trying to get nick to dig them out so we can enjoy some of these unreleased gems!!....

all that cant see it anything to do with the mercury release if they are white??

Slightly off thread here, i remember Pat Brady covering Gene Toones up as Frank Dell 'Baby You Got It' and finding that Frank Dell actually cut a track called 'Baby You Got It'

the burning bush were indeed musicians for the band ujima.......they used to go around nick collerans house to play, nick was in a group around the early 60's called the escorts and went into the recording game very early...he formed alpha audio studios which produced/engineered so many amazing soul acts..standing room only/starfire/poison to name just a few..

ive spoke to nick over many years and he even has unreleased ujima material plus "im not ready" by burning bush..

currently trying to get nick to dig them out so we can enjoy some of these unreleased gems!!....

all that cant see it anything to do with the mercury release if they are white??

I doubt the group on Mercury had any connection with Ujima. Artie Kornfeld told me they are a White band from New York and mentioned the band members.

If your friend has I'm Not Ready by Burning Bush...I would be STUNNED.

One of those " marmite " records !!! Personally I like it , seem to recall Mr Thorley spinning this as his opening record a few times

I doubt the group on Mercury had any connection with Ujima. Artie Kornfeld told me they are a White band from New York and mentioned the band members.

If your friend has I'm Not Ready by Burning Bush...I would be STUNNED.

well you need to be stunned, there are obviously two burning bushes.....

here is an extract of an email with nick....

Sometime I may dig up the master to I'm Not Ready done by Burning Bush prior to being assimilated into Brother Love a/k/a Ujima. Those guys first recorded in my living room around 1969-70. Lead singer - bass player, Melvin Watson, later sang Let me Lay My Funk on You with Poison on Roullette, before joining Anglo Saxon Brown, the last incarnation of Ujima, recording at Sigma Sound in Philly.

when the bush was burning they should of chucked all the copies of this record on it and the tapes (just in case )

still rare on a red issue...got booted on contact if i remember rightly..

Sometimes cover up names used to vary on daily basis didn't they? I'm sure I heard it referred to as "Burning Bush" by "The Burning Bush" on at least one occasion (Wakefield Unity maybe?)

The rest of the time I think it was, quite inappropriately, The Gems.

Quite right Godz .

Ginger covered the disc up as " Burning Bush " , and gave one of its' first spins at Wakefield .

When it received later plays , it was " credited " as being by " The Gems " .

Malc

Right on!!!

oops seems to have strayed away from Adys original question'

But cant wait to here The Burning Bush version of "Im not ready" for sure!!!!

Any chance of squeezing a wee snippet of it???

ktf

tfk

Edited February 16, 201114 yr by TFK

I'm with the others who recon the Gems .

I used to have an old tape of St Ives in 77 when Ginger introduced it as " a new sound from The Gems " (or words to that affect ).

I'm with the others who recon the Gems .

I used to have an old tape of St Ives in 77 when Ginger introduced it as " a new sound from The Gems " (or words to that affect ).

That was probably the first play when i flogged it to him. it cleared the floor and I sneaked away whistling nonchalantly.

Isn't this also collected for the B side by Psych Types?

Think that period Mercury sleeve doesn't match the release number...was it not introduced later?

-ps I love the disc...both sides!

Think it was Richard Searling who to introduce it as "Burning Bush" by "The Burning Bush"????He did introduce it as just......... here's "The Bush!!"

Cheers

Martyn

I've got a tape with Searling introducing it as Burning Bush by Burning Bush, I can't recall date but it woul be well after Ginger first palyed it.

Think that period Mercury sleeve doesn't match the release number...was it not introduced later?

-ps I love the disc...both sides!

Hi Dave,

You've got a very observant "Evil Eye".

I didn't think they matched but as it came floating across from the USA dressed like that I thought I'd leave it alone!

as it came floating across from the USA dressed like that I thought I'd leave it alone!

'Dressed'...like that

Remember standing next to you at St Ives the night you first presented it to Ginger, he played it on a portable record player,liked it, then gave you £60 for it, I believe, a good sum then.!!

Remember standing next to you at St Ives the night you first presented it to Ginger, he played it on a portable record player,liked it, then gave you £60 for it, I believe, a good sum then.!!

I remember it as 50 but let's hope you were right, I could use the tenner.

Are you from Corby or Kettering then?

Ady

Also muti-coloured ones and have had a white promo.

Also muti-coloured ones and have had a white promo.

Ken

Yep the "Contact"boot is multi coloured. It was the multi coloured one that was sold in the back bar at Wigan for good money if memory serves me correctly???

Cheers

Martyn

My recollection, supported by contemperaneous documentation (when I find it) would indicate that Ginger had this covered up as The Gems - You keep putting the burning on

Andy

In 1979, at a st.ives all dayer, I bought john vincent's red labelled emidisc of yvonne vernee. on the flip was 'the gems - you're putting me on'. that was a good two years after both records were big plays. I'm still an yvonne vernee nut. the burning bush thing. well, yet another time and place record. I'd be lying if I said it didn't get me up on the floor back then.

Edit - wrong !

Edited February 18, 201114 yr by martyn

That was probably the first play when i flogged it to him. it cleared the floor and I sneaked away whistling nonchalantly.

Quite possibly Ady , Would have been June 77 or September 77 - I did a tape at both nights but sadly cant find either since I've moved house

Edited February 18, 201114 yr by martyn