I was talking to an old friend of mine last night who is an old boy and used to buy a lot of big money tunes.

He was going through some the records that he had had and sold in the past.

One of them was apparently the only copy of 'The Originals - Suspicion' which was on an acetate (not Emidisc)

and said he'd sold it for big money to a well known DJ (no names mentioned).

Anyone on here ever seen a copy? and what on if they have?

I know it's been pressed on 'Stardust' but that's not the one I'm enquiring about.

Thanks anyone!

Edited June 2, 201114 yr by steveLuigi

Only ever herd of it on a LP format but spose there must be an accetate out there some were

There is an acetate, the working title is "Baby Have Mercy On Me".

This was photocopied from the original acetate 20 years ago. Sadly I only had access to a B&W copier.

I believe this went from USA source to John Manship to Richard Searling

Andy

This was photocopied from the original acetate 20 years ago. Sadly I only had access to a B&W copier.

I believe this went from USA source to John Manship to Richard Searling

Andy

Andy......Gary Spencer owned this at one time...........purchased it from Manny,no doubt John can enlighten us

The person in question that sold the record was a guy called Gary Field from Leeds, he is a very good friend of Richards.

As said in my original post, he had many big money records back then. Anyone heard of Gary? Big mates with Soul Sam, Manship & Butch too.

Edited June 2, 201114 yr by steveLuigi

Andy,

The ownership history was:

Tom DePerrio - Simon Soussan - John Manship - Gary Field - Richard Searling

Smudge,

I can't remember Gary Spencer having owned this although 20 years back Gary did get first choice from any purchases we made - he may have had it for a short while and sold it back to us - I honestly can't remember.

I do remember the load it came in though - over 60 10" Motown acetates which included all the legendary titles, even The Four Tops - Jazz Workshop album on acetate, that ended up going to a Japanese collector. We still have some 10" Acetates left from that original batch that we never got round to selling - I'll have to dig them out and have a look what's left over.

john

Edited June 3, 201114 yr by john manship

REMEMBER GARY VERY WELL, WITH HIS BIG SOUNDS AND LITTLE BOX ....GOT SOME NICE TUNES VIA HIM, NEW WANDERERS, ADMIRATIONS AND PROFFESSIONALS ETC, TOP FELLA INDEED NOT SEEN HIM IN A FEW YEARS THO

BRI PINCH

Andy,

The ownership history was:

Tom DePerrio - Simon Soussan - John Manship - Gary Field - Richard Searling

Smudge,

I can't remember Gary Spencer having owned this although 20 years back Gary did get first choice from any purchases we made - he may have had it for a short while and sold it back to us - I honestly can't remember.

I do remember the load it came i though - over 60 10" Motown acetates which included all the legendary titles, even The Four Tops - Jazz Workshop album on acetate, that ended up going to a Japanese collector. We still have some 10" Acetates left from that original batch that we never got round to selling - I'll have to dig them out and have a look what's left over.

john

Remember that batch of acetates well. Andy didn't have a car at the time so I brought him over and we took them back to Boston to catalogue and record many of them. I don't think I've ever driven so slowly in my life !!!!!!!

Happy days.

Steve Handbury

REMEMBER GARY VERY WELL, WITH HIS BIG SOUNDS AND LITTLE BOX ....GOT SOME NICE TUNES VIA HIM, NEW WANDERERS, ADMIRATIONS AND PROFFESSIONALS ETC, TOP FELLA INDEED NOT SEEN HIM IN A FEW YEARS THO

BRI PINCH

I'm in touch with Gary again now after some 30 years, I'm trying to coax him out again as I think he lost interest after he'd sold his records. His wife Lynne has been to a couple of my do's but not Gary as yet.

Did this ever get pressed on any other label but Stardust?

Did this ever get pressed on any other label but Stardust?

Think it came out on the 'Boot' bootleg label from memory

Did this ever get pressed on any other label but Stardust?

There was a white label of the Originals put out in the early 90s (around 92-93) - same time as the other unreleased Motown stuff started getting pressed up (Reconsider etc...)

Think there was an earlier blue label with solid centre too Joe, but can't be 100% as I never had it.

Sean

And this one (slightly speeded up version)

Althought I am a sucker for stereo or proper versions of records I have always preferred this speeded up version of 'Suspicion' with the muddy vocals. I suppose it's the version that I (and many others) grew up with. A few years ago, when I sold off all of my boots & re-issues, this was one that I held on to.

Dave

There's a few boots of this, no legit 45 release as far as I'm aware.

Advance was another of the boot labels.

There was a white label of the Originals put out in the early 90s (around 92-93) - same time as the other unreleased Motown stuff started getting pressed up (Reconsider etc...)

With Gladys Knight on the flip.

the "Boot" bootleg had Joe Tex on the flip according to JM guide.

Strangely enough the "Soul Beat" version was played at our "do" last night. Somebody remarked that it sounded like Pinky and Perky,s version. To be fair it did sound rather quick!

With Gladys Knight on the flip.

the "Boot" bootleg had Joe Tex on the flip according to JM guide.

what was the gladys title on the flip? think ive got on of these, but dont know the gladys song

cheers, rob

what was the gladys title on the flip? think ive got on of these, but dont know the gladys song

cheers, rob

"Fare Thee Well" I think.

There is an acetate, the working title is "Baby Have Mercy On Me".

I still think that's a mistake and the wrong label is on it, it's so obviously called Suspicion.

That particular acetate is pictured in Simon Soussan's book along with tons more.

I still think that's a mistake and the wrong label is on it, it's so obviously called Suspicion.

That particular acetate is pictured in Simon Soussan's book along with tons more.

I'm inclined to agree Pete, it doesn't even have that line in the lyrics.

What does SS's book go for these days? Anyone got the scans they can post of some of the other acetates?

I'm inclined to agree Pete, it doesn't even have that line in the lyrics.

What does SS's book go for these days? Anyone got the scans they can post of some of the other acetates?

I can have a go tomorrow if you like, book is in the garage and I'll never find it now.

The book must still be worth £50 I reckon.

I still don't know how much to ask for Soul Harmony 45's and someone wants it off me!