45cellar Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Just bought a second copy of this and to my surprise it has the ARCHER STAMP on the "A Side" whereas my Existing copy has the ARCHER STAMP on the "B Side". The Labels are Identical and both sides play as the Label suggests, however the Deadwax has also been altered. I wonder if this was a simple mistake, or was "HAPPY DAYS" ever considered as the A SIDE. ARCHER STAMP This copy has "W-145-A" Scratched in the DEADWAX on the "HAPPY DAYS" (B SIDE) ARCHER STAMP "W-145-B" Scratched in the DEADWAX on the "Trying Real Hard" (A SIDE) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The copy below has "W-145-B" Scratched in the DEADWAX on the "HAPPY DAYS" (B SIDE) The Matrix as above Looks like they altered the A to B by scratching across the bottom of the A "W-145-B A" Scratched in the DEADWAX on the "Trying Real Hard" (A SIDE) ARCHER STAMP ARCHER STAMP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ It was the B SIDE on the later number too. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Robbk Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 I think it was just a mistake. I don't think it was ever considered the "A" side. I only Heard "Trying Real Hard" on the radio (WVON). Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 7, 2012 Author Share Posted January 7, 2012 Thanks, I wonder how they managed to swap sides with the ARCHER Stamp. I always thought that it was on the MASTER PLATE along with the other Details. This one has the ARCHER Stamp on the "A Side" too. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Premium Stuff Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Thanks, I wonder how they managed to swap sides with the ARCHER Stamp. I always thought that it was on the MASTER PLATE along with the other Details. This one has the ARCHER Stamp on the "A Side" too. Hi Roger No wonder it wasn't a huge hit (although the Carl Carlton version did OK I believe). Look at the title! "I Don't Know How (To Say I Love You) Don't Walk Away" :lol: Snappy or what! I have some more info on a ZTSC copy of the above rather than Archer stamped (I have both) and also two releases of the same on the original local Dynamics label when I can get round to it. The title and label print on the two Dynamics presses is different - one not quite as confusing as the above. Cheers Richard Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 7, 2012 Author Share Posted January 7, 2012 Thanks Richard, That would be great. I have seen this on Dynamics, Don't recall seeing the Westbound ZTSC Though. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
billysbag Posted January 7, 2012 Share Posted January 7, 2012 Just bought a second copy of this and to my surprise it has the ARCHER STAMP on the "A Side" whereas my Existing copy has the ARCHER STAMP on the "B Side". The Labels are Identical and both sides play as the Label suggests, however the Deadwax has also been altered. I wonder if this was a simple mistake, or was "HAPPY DAYS" ever considered as the A SIDE. ARCHER STAMP This copy has "W-145-A" Scratched in the DEADWAX on the "HAPPY DAYS" (B SIDE) ARCHER STAMP "W-145-B" Scratched in the DEADWAX on the "Trying Real Hard" (A SIDE) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The copy below has "W-145-B" Scratched in the DEADWAX on the "HAPPY DAYS" (B SIDE) The Matrix as above Looks like they altered the A to B by scratching across the bottom of the A "W-145-B A" Scratched in the DEADWAX on the "Trying Real Hard" (A SIDE) ARCHER STAMP ARCHER STAMP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ It was the B SIDE on the later number too. mine also has the archer stamp on the "happy days" side Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 mine also has the archer stamp on the "happy days" side I don't know how many copies of each, or which if any may be rarer. Strange isn't it, that the Matrix has "HAPPY DAYS" as the A SIDE & the flip Deadwax Matrix as the B SIDE It would appear that they went to a considerable amount of trouble to correct this. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
billysbag Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 I don't know how many copies of each, or which if any may be rarer. Strange isn't it, that the Matrix has "HAPPY DAYS" as the A SIDE & the flip Deadwax Matrix as the B SIDE It would appear that they went to a considerable amount of trouble to correct this. hi roger. while the happy days deadwax matrix is the same as the record no. the lonely in a crowd reads 1016a and b when the record no is w144a/b. im not too clued up on matrices . why would they do that? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Steve Edgar Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) hi roger. while the happy days deadwax matrix is the same as the record no. the lonely in a crowd reads 1016a and b when the record no is w144a/b. im not too clued up on matrices . why would they do that? That's probs coz the stamper for Dynamics release (1016) was re-used for the re issue on Westbound steve Edited January 8, 2012 by Soul-Integrity Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Ady Croasdell Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I'm rather interested in who the first listed producers Paul and Doc were. Surely not Armen and Bernie who are listed on the second label, perhaps writers and possibly? group members Stephenson & Willis who are listed on the second label. Recorded in Canada too eh (and only Happy Days and presumably Trying Real Hard and not I've Changed), anyone know about that? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
45cellar Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 Not sure why W-180 has Recorded In Canada when W-145 doesn't In the Deadwax on W-180 it has CANADIAN LTD (BOTH SIDES) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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