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Returned Item Is Broken - Refund Or Not ?

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If an item is returned to a seller (wasn't happy with purchase) and it comes back broken in 2 do you refund (or not) ? :g:

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  • Markw
    Markw

    Agree with Chalky. You don't take a shirt back to M&S after dragging it through an oil puddle. They should have packed it properly    Up to them to pursue a claim through the Post Office. Their pr

  • Pete S
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      Great news Chris, well done.

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Was it broken when he received it or just when you received it back?

If it was in one piece when he received it - I'd have thought it was his job to return it to you safely.

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Was it broken when he received it or just when you received it back?

If it was in one piece when he received it - I'd have thought it was his job to return it to you safely.

 

No not broken when received during shipping back to me............

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Was it packed well ?

 

Sounds like PO claim to me.

 

ROD

 

No not well packed single peice of carton..........

No refund if you ask me, not until he has claimed via the post office, I presume it is insured or the cost of first class covers it.  If he gets compo both quids in.

Agree with Chalky. You don't take a shirt back to M&S after dragging it through an oil puddle. They should have packed it properly  :facepalm:  Up to them to pursue a claim through the Post Office. Their problem not yours.

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did the buyer return it with the same packaging that you sent it to him with ?

 

No he didn't, he has put in an official claim with Ebay/Paypal, let's see what happens...........

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As you see just 1 sheet of fluted carton and brown paper, look at the left and you'll see the crease. You need

at least 2 sheets turned at 90° from each other. Buyers attitude is "OK when I shipped it" plus some other choice

words.

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As you see just 1 sheet of fluted carton and brown paper, look at the left and you'll see the crease. You need

at least 2 sheets turned at 90° from each other. Buyers attitude is "OK when I shipped it" plus some other choice

words.

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DOH!! Was Homer Simpson the buyer?  :wicked:

The other bloke should claim from the PO for this.

 

That packaging isn't good.

 

Why on earth didn't he send it back in the packaging you sent it to him in - that would be the obvious and most sensible thing to do?

 

Cheers

 

Richard

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The guys replied that he's sent record back, with tracking number, in spite of fact that record not sent recorded or regstered. When I pull up

the case in the Resolution I see nowhere where I can put a message in, only issue a refund ?

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Any ideas ? I want to get a message in about shipping facts.

Anybody know how to fire a mail into Ebay ? There doesn't seem to be any "Contact" possibility ?

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The guys replied that he's sent record back, with tracking number, in spite of fact that record not sent recorded or regstered. When I pull up

the case in the Resolution I see nowhere where I can put a message in, only issue a refund ?

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Any ideas ? I want to get a message in about shipping facts.

Anybody know how to fire a mail into Ebay ? There doesn't seem to be any "Contact" possibility ?

You could always use the email address given on his paypal details, just click details tab next to payment received on accounts page
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You could always use the email address given on his paypal details, just click details tab next to payment received on accounts page

 

I actually meant Ebay, thanks anyway............

 

He know states that I deliberatley broke the record in two !! Gets more bizzare by the minute...........

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We should start a competition on who writes the best messages on Ebay..............

 

"The record was well packed when I returned it and I suspect he broke the record and now wants to cause me more inconvenience. I'm too experienced on Ebay to mess about anymore with this guy. I have a 100% positive feedback rating and don't want to jeopardise it with this clown. Let him keep his ill gotten gains if you like, but first check his feedback, I don't think he's new to negative feedback."

 

:rofl:

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We should start a competition on who writes the best messages on Ebay..............

 

"The record was well packed when I returned it and I suspect he broke the record and now wants to cause me more inconvenience. I'm too experienced on Ebay to mess about anymore with this guy. I have a 100% positive feedback rating and don't want to jeopardise it with this clown. Let him keep his ill gotten gains if you like, but first check his feedback, I don't think he's new to negative feedback."

 

:rofl:

 

Who is this tw*t?

Who is this tw*t?

Name and shame Chris so others don't have to deal with him, then sue for slander and emotional distress... you're not actually a clown

are you?

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This getting weirder and weirder......................Paypal have now blocked the account that's OK it's standard practice to do so.

Thing is they've blocked an amount that equates to both the records he bought. Luckily I found a contact e-mail reporting "bad buyers"

hopefully we'll get it sorted. What a carry on........................... :huh:

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What a crock............................

 

 

Hello Chris,

Thank you for writing back to eBay Customer Service about the record you sold. I understand the buyer has returned the item but when you received it back it was broken.

Chris, I appreciate your cooperation to work with us in trying to resolve this matter. I apologise to hear that the item was faulty upon receipt.

I have reviewed your case details fully and can see this item was successfully returned to you as you have confirmed it. As you have received the item back but have not refunded the buyer, I have closed the case in the buyer’s favour issuing them with a full refund.

I understand how frustrating this situation may have been for you as the item was broken upon return, so I suggest you to appeal on the case as soon as it is closed. Please click on the appeal button in Resolution Centre once case is closed. Please be informed that once you appeal, you have to provide information which will help us in further investigating the case and this will be reviewed within 48 hours. Here is how to appeal:

 

1. Log In to "My eBay"

2. Go to "Account"

3. Choose "Resolution Centre" then choose the case that you filed.

4. Choose "Appeal this case" in blue text.

5. Then click on "Submit"

I trust you understand our decision in this case. I wish you all the best on eBay in the future.
Kind regards,
Maria McAdams
eBay Customer Service

 

"‹You know the guy returned it not registered, I could have just said I never got it and the that would have been the end of it.  Does honesty pay I ask you ?

Name And shame the snake

As packed like this he could glue the poststamp directly on the record and write the address on the label. No refund for sure.

No wonder sellers are deserting ebay. I would have thought under trades description act the item has to be returned as bought?

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Just love this from Ebay.

 

 

Thank you for writing back to eBay Customer Service regarding the disk that you've sold to. I understand that buyer returned the item to you. Allow me to assist you with this.

Christopher, as I've checked your account I can see that you've been with us since May, 2000. The growth we've experienced over the years is because of members like you who faithfully support us. I appreciate your trust and I'll do my best to give you the kind of service you deserve.

They should have added "Well, we really don't care so we'll give you a right old shafting"  :( 

Perhaps with a broom handle!!

 

Stephen Bounden

 

 

Same person who complained about the Percy Wiggins I sent him after I'd already knocked him £25, he wanted another £25 off because it was in poor condition so I posted up a recording of it on here and nobody could hear anything wrong with it.

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Same person who complained about the Percy Wiggins I sent him after I'd already knocked him £25, he wanted another £25 off because it was in poor condition so I posted up a recording of it on here and nobody could hear anything wrong with it.

 

Pete

Before bidding on some records I had down as VG or VG+ he wanted a sort of signed statement saying they were without any scratches, clicks, pops etc. Told him not to bid on them. I have to say the record I sold him played perfect but was marked, he tried to knock me down £7.00 I said no, return it. Well I guess you live and learn..................... :huh:

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Pete

Before bidding on some records I had down as VG or VG+ he wanted a sort of signed statement saying they were without any scratches, clicks, pops etc. Told him not to bid on them. I have to say the record I sold him played perfect but was marked, he tried to knock me down £7.00 I said no, return it. Well I guess you live and learn..................... :huh:

i would have blocked him immediately on hearing that. they guys is obviously a fool. 

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At last some common sense...............

 

Hello Christopher,

Thank you for contacting eBay Customer Service regarding a claim that has been filed for the record you sold to “sjbounden”.  I understand that you have appealed the original case decision because you received the item back damaged. I am sorry to hear things have not gone smoothly with this transaction, please allow me to assist you.

I am please to inform you that we approved your appeal. We have the same requirement for buyers and sellers. An item must match the listing description, and if it's returned it must be in the condition it was received.

We're no longer asking you to reimburse eBay. You can confirm this by going to your case details in the Resolution Centre:

 

Something to remember when selling on Ebay boys & girls.....................

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Seems to be more into Michael Jackson than rare soul, maybe as fancies himself as a "Smooth Criminal" when it comes to how he goes about buying records? :g:

 

I see that we have 20 mutual friends !!! :ohmy: You see the kind of people I knock about with ?

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At last some common sense...............

 

Hello Christopher,

Thank you for contacting eBay Customer Service regarding a claim that has been filed for the record you sold to “sjbounden”.  I understand that you have appealed the original case decision because you received the item back damaged. I am sorry to hear things have not gone smoothly with this transaction, please allow me to assist you.

I am please to inform you that we approved your appeal. We have the same requirement for buyers and sellers. An item must match the listing description, and if it's returned it must be in the condition it was received.

We're no longer asking you to reimburse eBay. You can confirm this by going to your case details in the Resolution Centre:

 

Something to remember when selling on Ebay boys & girls.....................

 

 

Great news Chris, well done.

I see that we have 20 mutual friends !!! :ohmy: You see the kind of people I knock about with ?

 

151 mutual with me!

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Great news Chris, well done.

 

Thanks Pete, imagine though, all you have to do is lick a stamp onto the record, write the address on the label and Ebay consider it as

"returned" !!

 

Until the next time............................

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