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There has been plenty of squirm inducing garbage played under the banner of NS. Which ones wouldn't you want your mates to hear, let alone your hip teenage kids?

'Out of my mind' by Rain gets a mention on the Instant Monster thread. It gets myvote as one of the worse of the worst. The 'Dashing White Sergeant' was soulful compared to this. And just which school marm is tinkling the ivories on that rubbish? I'm surprised Joan Moody didn't go to court over the cover-up.

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Ahh yes.

Here are some of mine:

1. The Flasher-Mistura

2. Can't Live This Way-Barnaby Bye

3. Wall to Wall Heartaches-Bobby Jason

4. Queen of Fools-Barbara Mills

5. Kiss Me Now (Don't Kiss Me Later)-Florence DeVore

6. Cochise-Paul Humphrey

7. Right Back Where We Started From-Maxine Nightengale

8. Wise Up Girl-David Geddes

9. Please Don't Run From Me-George Clinton

10. Interplay-Derek and Ray

I love all of these songs, but they usually never leave the confines of my car. Great tracks in my opinion, but everything has a place and none of these belong on today's dancefloors. When introducing a person to northern soul, I wouldn't even want to confuse them or give them the wrong idea by playing these tracks. Personally, I think they're great(for some sick twisted reason).

OK-now this is the "what in THEE hell were they thinking" category:

1. Diane Renay-Can't Helping Loving That Man of Mine

2. Rain, featuring Charity Brown-Out of My Mind

3. Nine Times Out of Ten-Muriel Day-this song POWERFUL sucks!

4. Sharonettes-Papa Oo Mow Mow

5. Gary Lewis-My Heart's Symphony

Really, now. Come on.

I guess I had to be there.

And I definitely wasn't. Oh well.

KTF,

Jason

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'Out of my mind' by Rain gets a mention on the Instant Monster thread. It gets myvote as one of the worse of the worst.

I like this. Sounded great blasted out loud at Wigan, no questions asked. Great stuff.

Pete

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Don't know that it's your cup of tetley's Pete it's an uptempo 70's Northern dancer similar in feel to something like Alfie Davidson but not as hard to pick up usually see it for around 5-10 squids on a red and blue Big Tree label if memory serves. Great feel good stuff

John

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I agree that there are a lot of records far worse than 'Wise up Girl.' I don't think it can really compare to Alfie Davidson in quality though although the groove is, as has been said, similiar to an extent. It's a shame that the strings are too up front and I don't think anyone would want to sing the lyric. But the flute (or is it a whistele?) is nice and the sax is good too.

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Totally agree Billy but it is the nearest record i could think of for comparrison.

John

BTW what surprises me is the lack of real dross on the lists submitted, obviously Muriel Day is a given, but where's Lenny Gamble, Ron Grainer, The Happy Cats, Sammy Davis Jnr (although i will admit to liking this a lot when it was played) Bob Seger and tons more there must be some more we can add to the list. If i had my way i'd have Five and a Penny in there as well whistling.gif

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Tony Blackburn's 'record' must come high up the list, John, and what makes it worse, is that this was put out (along with Ron Grainer and Joe 90 and Lorraine Silver) on a couple of albums in the 80s called ,you'll definitely recall, "Casino Classics".

I went to the Wheel a few times but never the Casino I felt real shame and then real anger when I heard "Lenny Gamble'" Even the admittedly powerhouse opening couple of bars couldn't excuse it.

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I think it's taken for granted that the likes of Muriel Day, Lenny Gamble and so on are terrible - what about Funny Face Girl, What Love Brings, Pity My Feet, Halos Are For Angels...but it's all in the ears of the beholder and I'll tell you why - if I did my top 10 all time hates, the Carstairs (Really Hurts Me) would be in there, because I just don't like it and can't find any redeeming features in it whatsoever. I just don't get it. But I think I should also say that when Sam Williams first started getting played, I hated that, thought it was an out of tune racket...it took it's release on Grapevine to get me to listen to it properly, I'd now describe it as being indispendable...but to me the Carstairs sounds worse every time I hear it.

I suppose I'll get kicked off the list for that herecy whistling.gif

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What about Jackie Trent..................................oh dear whistling.gif

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Good singer she was - just sold her version of 'The one who really loves you' on a 10" Oriole acetate for £100. You Baby is a good song no matter who sings it, Len Barry's version - fantastic

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I think it's taken for granted that the likes of Muriel Day, Lenny Gamble and so on are terrible - what about Funny Face Girl, What Love Brings, Pity My Feet, Halos Are For Angels...but it's all in the ears of the beholder and I'll tell you why - if I did my top 10 all time hates, the Carstairs (Really Hurts Me) would be in there, because I just don't like it and can't find any redeeming features in it whatsoever.  I just don't get it.  But I think I should also say that when Sam Williams first started getting played, I hated that, thought it was an out of tune racket...it took it's release on Grapevine to get me to listen to it properly, I'd now describe it as being indispendable...but to me the Carstairs sounds worse every time I hear it. 

I suppose I'll get kicked off the list for that herecy  whistling.gif

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Never mind Stone Island!!!! Stone HIM :lol::lol::D:Dlaugh.gif

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I think it's taken for granted that the likes of Muriel Day, Lenny Gamble and so on are terrible - what about Funny Face Girl, What Love Brings, Pity My Feet, Halos Are For Angels...but it's all in the ears of the beholder and I'll tell you why - if I did my top 10 all time hates, the Carstairs (Really Hurts Me) would be in there, because I just don't like it and can't find any redeeming features in it whatsoever.  I just don't get it.  But I think I should also say that when Sam Williams first started getting played, I hated that, thought it was an out of tune racket...it took it's release on Grapevine to get me to listen to it properly, I'd now describe it as being indispendable...but to me the Carstairs sounds worse every time I hear it. 

I suppose I'll get kicked off the list for that herecy  whistling.gif

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To me the Cartstairs is about amphetasoul meeting disco with a snaggly voiced open throated vocal in the tradition of Joe Pope, Joe Stubbs or General Johnson and great harmonies thrown in for good measure. That percussive opening surely has to be have value too. Can you in all honesty say that this record isn't at the very least exciting?

I assume when you talk about Sam Wiliams that you mean 'Let's Talk it Over'? This is a man bereft. None of Toussaint McCall's resignation there.

As I've said elsewhere, have to admit that I like the Blanche Carter. Perhaps her connection with the Clovers colours my judgement. Then again I like Cilla Black.

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To me the Cartstairs is about amphetasoul meeting disco with a snaggly voiced open throated vocal in the tradition of Joe Pope, Joe Stubbs or General Johnson and great harmonies thrown in for good measure. That percussive opening surely has to be have value too. Can you in all honesty say that this record isn't at the very least exciting?

Yes I can. I think it's horrible.

I assume when you talk about Sam Wiliams that you mean 'Let's Talk it Over'? This is a man bereft. None of Toussaint McCall's resignation there.

No, you are thinking of Spencer Wiggins you nutter! Sam Williams - Love slipped through my fingers...

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I quite like this thumbsup.gif and would play it out if the occasion arrose where it fit the moment great atmospheric 70's dancer IMO

John

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Have to agree John, got this tucked at home somewhere, need to play the swine now. :lol:

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No, I was talking about Sam Williams- the other side of "Love Slipped through My Fingers"

Clairvoyance is not one of my things. Or is it assumed that we must only refer to what is fashionable? To do otherwise is to be a nutter?

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Why would I listen to that side anyway?

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Because it's a great, great record. It epomises the deepest soul and it showcases just how the voice and the instumentation can complement each other. Thanks for reminding me of it, Pete. Im playing it now. If there is anybody else who hasn't, unbelivably, checked out this superb SOUL record, do so now!

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Back on topic how about:

Black soul music

The Ice Man

Falbala

Cathedrals

Jaws

Do you want to get funky with me

Brick house

Hot shot

These boots are made for walking

And finally the superb version of Ill do anything by Mr Blackburn.

These were really played at allnighters. Them wert tdays lads and lasses.

Ed

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Because it's a great, great record. It epomises the deepest soul and it showcases just how the voice and the instumentation  can complement each other. Thanks for reminding me of it, Pete. Im playing it now. If there is anybody else who hasn't, unbelivably, checked out this superb SOUL record, do so now!

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Listen, sorry about that lot above, I really didn't realise you were talking about the B side, I honestly never played it when I had the record on Tower. As for calling you a nutter, it was meant friendly, I use other descriptive words when serious :thumbsup:

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Listen, sorry about that lot above, I really didn't realise you were talking about the B side, I honestly never played it when I had the record on Tower. As for calling you a nutter, it was meant friendly, I use other descriptive words when serious  :thumbsup:

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I know you meant it affectionately , Pete. It really is a great sound though. The dissonace makes it heart tearing. That's why I thought that you wern't possibly talking about "Love Slipped Through My Fingers."

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