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gwen owens: bootleg or real

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Good morning Chaps,

How do I tell if my 'say your wanted' is real or not.Not planning on selling it any time soon but would love to know the truth from the Soul Source Hive Mind!

dean

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What's stamped in the runout will tell you.  Also, if I'm not mistaken, all the boots I have seen were styrene, pressed at Monarch(and so, have the etched delta (with the following etched number with a telltale 10,000 series number from the late 1970s). And, their label colour is a lighter and brighter shade of green, with slightly more yellow in the green hue.  The originals were not only a slightly more blueish and green, but darker. The only originals I have seen were vinyl, if I remember correctly (and were pressed in one of the smaller Detroit plants).  I used to remember the name of that plant.  But, I've forgotten it now.  I'm now in Munich, away from my records.  So, I can't check.

Edited by RobbK

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the boot is styrene with a delta triangle and a  number that starts with 10.....7 digits i think next to it .... sound quality not that great in comparison to the real ones either

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Dean, keep it as the boot is now valuable and hard to come by. Some of the originals actually skip rendering them less desirable than the boot. I am resigned to keeping the boot as it is unlikely that I will ever own an original copy.

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That explains why the boot goes for more than a real one on discog....the strange world of little round black things!

dean

 

Really?!?

A Gwen Owens boot at more than £5k ...?!

Come off it. Or is some misguided fool selling an original for less than £100? If so, let me know who they are ... I'll have as many as they've got.

 

Edited by Peter Richer

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Really?!?

A Gwen Owens boot at more than £5k ...?!

Come off it. Or is some misguided fool selling an original for less than £100? If so, let me know who they are ... I'll have as many as they've got.

 

i kinda think its because the real one has never been on discogs pete

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Well If you actually look at discog:

2011 bootleg goes for less than £10 and there are a few for sale

A listing for the original [i don't know if that is true] has gone for no more than £50 in vg+ condition according to the sales history. None for sale at present!

The listing for the 70's boot last sold Dec. 2014 for £90. 4 on offer at present from £40 to £70

I offer no analysis merely report.

dean

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Well If you actually look at discog:

2011 bootleg goes for less than £10 and there are a few for sale

A listing for the original [i don't know if that is true] has gone for no more than £50 in vg+ condition according to the sales history. None for sale at present!

The listing for the 70's boot last sold Dec. 2014 for £90. 4 on offer at present from £40 to £70

I offer no analysis merely report.

dean

I am highly sceptical (to say the least).

Please provide a link to the vg+ one sold as an original for £50. It is almost certainly mis-described if listed as an original. If it is genuine someone got an almighty bargain ... and the seller will be pig sick if they ever read a topic such as this and find out what they've let go.

Honestly Dean, the going rate for a decent copy will be about £5k.

 

Cheers, Peter

 

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I don't doubt you for a moment. The Nazi Librarians on discog aren't always as clever as they think they are.. I'm not computer literate enough to do a link but I'm sure there are techno-gods on site who could.

dean

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Just opened the preview of this sale. Record dated as from 1966,Price was actually £48.35 , so presumably in dollars or euros, and the seller pointedly states it as vinyl not styrene!

dean

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Just opened the preview of this sale. Record dated as from 1966,Price was actually £48.35 , so presumably in dollars or euros, and the seller pointedly states it as vinyl not styrene!

dean

Yes but England also won the world cup that year! :)

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