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Colchester Soul Party 24th November

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FOR DANCERS ONLY

returns to the Colchester Arts Centre, Church Lane on

Friday 24th November 2006

11pm - 3am

with

James Trouble, Rob Bailey, Andy Brazil, Warren C and Donna D

The Venue is a fantastic old church - £5 on the door

The last one was really good fun with a young crowd, new to the soul scene really enjoying the music which is a mix of well known oldies, rare soul and the odd latin tune and soul flavoured RnB thrown in to give a really uplifting party atmosphere and help to attract new blood to the scene. :rolleyes:

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FOR DANCERS ONLY

returns to the Colchester Arts Centre, Church Lane on

Friday 24th November 2006

11pm - 3am

with

James Trouble, Rob Bailey, Andy Brazil, Warren C and Donna D

The Venue is a fantastic old church - £5 on the door

The last one was really good fun with a young crowd, new to the soul scene really enjoying the music which is a mix of well known oldies, rare soul and the odd latin tune and soul flavoured RnB thrown in to give a really uplifting party atmosphere and help to attract new blood to the scene. :thumbsup:

YESSSS..Donna!

this is going to be fun!

:)

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Cant make this one :D

Had an awsome time on your opening nite :thumbsup:

Hoping to be at the Dec night

Nige B :lol:

Great to hear you had a good time :lol: See you in December :lol:

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I'll be there but solely in a quaffing capacity; stop me and buy me one!

A Few days to go, but does anyone have ideas for a pre event boozer yet?

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A Few days to go yet, but does anyone have ideas for a pre event boozer yet?

The Hole in the Wall isn't a bad pub and right across the road from the Art Centre. It's an alternative pub usually full of goths and other such societal drop outs, we will fit in perfectly :thumbsup:

There is also the Hogs Head (Kings Arms is its official name) which is a more conventional pub for those who get scared by goths, it has a good mix of people, good beer on tap and isn't full of the typical Essex boys and girls. :shades:

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will there be a range of sandwiches, rolls and maybe pork pies @ the CAC?

I'll sneak a couple of veggie pork pies and a pineapple on a stick in my record box for you :shades: Although Ady usually has the odd scotch egg in his back pocket if you're desperate for a nibble :)

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I'll sneak a couple of veggie pork pies and a pineapple on a stick in my record box for you shhh.gif Although Ady usually has the odd scotch egg in his back pocket if you're desperate for a nibble :D

Just to let people know, security is pretty tight at the Art Center, so if you are thinking of smuggling in cheese on a stick or eggie pork snacks you'd best make sure they are well hidden :yes:

And The Hole In The Wall it is then for the warm up drink thumbsup.gif

Here is a picture from the last event that Nige took. It should give you a pretty good idea of what to expect thumbsup.gif

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Just to let people know, security is pretty tight at the Art Center, so if you are thinking of smuggling in cheese on a stick or eggie pork snacks you'd best make sure they are well hidden :yes:

And The Hole In The Wall it is then for the warm up drink thumbsup.gif

Here is a picture from the last event that Nige took. It should give you a pretty good idea of what to expect thumbsup.gif

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was hoping to get along to one of these but sadly being the end of the month its been clashing with my dj'ing elsewhere :D know the venue very well tho, fond memories of playing there at the old acid jazz nights in the early nineties, great place shades.gif

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Here is a picture from the last event that Nige took. It should give you a pretty good idea of what to expect thumbsup.gif

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No disrespect James but that's the sort of picture that puts me off going to a do, people smoking & drinking on the dancefloor.

Simon

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No disrespect James but that's the sort of picture that puts me off going to a do, people smoking & drinking on the dancefloor.

Simon

Hi Simon

It's advertised as mainly a younger crowd new to the soul scene - they really enjoyed and got into the music. Surely this is what we need to refresh the scene which at times feels a little stagnant. Everyone was new to the scene at some point and everyone has been guilty of being young, drunk and drinking on the dancefloor - haven't they? Or is it just me whistling.gif Anyway, I think it would be a shame if in trying to introduce new blood to the scene it scares the old 'purists' away and splits it. What I would love to see is old soulies dancing thier arses off and showing thier love for the music and showing the new people what they are missing and that they actually wouldn't want to take thier drinks on the dancefloor becuase they want to be able to dance that THAT!

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No disrespect James but that's the sort of picture that puts me off going to a do, people smoking & drinking on the dancefloor.

Simon

Donna has done a fantastic job of getting this event up and running and her efforts deserve supporting. For me the best thing was seeing 250+ youth enjoying northern and rare soul for the first time alongside a strong contingent of more 'experienced soulies'.

It is events like this that are required to bring through some new hearts to the soul scene. With the help of more experienced soulies pulling in the same direction as us we will hopefully be able to create a bit of a northern soul atmosphere at this amazing venue and touch wood in the next few years we won't be hearing any horror stories of empty venues at the scenes flag ship events.

As I said, the picture gives a pretty good idication of what to expect. Is the picture that disimilar to this one?:

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The age of the people in it looks pretty similar, and they all seem to be enjoying the music on a crowded dance floor. huh.gif

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Hi Simon

It's advertised as mainly a younger crowd new to the soul scene - they really enjoyed and got into the music. Surely this is what we need to refresh the scene which at times feels a little stagnant. Everyone was new to the scene at some point and everyone has been guilty of being young, drunk and drinking on the dancefloor - haven't they? Or is it just me whistling.gif Anyway, I think it would be a shame if in trying to introduce new blood to the scene it scares the old 'purists' away and splits it. What I would love to see is old soulies dancing thier arses off and showing thier love for the music and showing the new people what they are missing and that they actually wouldn't want to take thier drinks on the dancefloor becuase they want to be able to dance that THAT!

Young crowd yes, but not at any cost, when i first got into it it was through the Mod scene & i already had the suss not to drink or smoke on the dancefloor.

A lot of people just don't get it nowadays & that includes older people dancing & drinking on the floor, i think personally it's because the scene is now less about dancing than it used to be.

I am now very very choosy where i go & if it's not what i expect from a night i just don't bother anymore, i'd rather stay in, this is all just my personal views though, i'm sure there's plenty of peeps who aren't as bothered.

Simon

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Donna has done a fantastic job of getting this event up and running and her efforts deserve supporting. For me the best thing was seeing 250+ youth enjoying northern and rare soul for the first time alongside a strong contingent of more 'experienced soulies'.

It is events like this that are required to bring through some new hearts to the soul scene. With the help of more experienced soulies pulling in the same direction as us we will hopefully be able to create a bit of a northern soul atmosphere at this amazing venue and touch wood in the next few years we won't be hearing any horror stories of empty venues at the scenes flag ship events.

As I said, the picture gives a pretty good idication of what to expect. Is the picture that disimilar to this one?:

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The age of the people in it looks pretty similar, and they all seem to be enjoying the music on a crowded dance floor. huh.gif

Hi James,

I don't disappreciate anyones efforts, i know from personal experience how hard it is to get clubs off the ground & i think what you've both written is very well put.

I personally though do see a big difference in the pictures, the Wigan one looks full of people living a way of life, the other looks full of people enjoying themselves (which is great) but more a hotch potch of people, the Wigan one looks like a Soul gang.

Hope i haven't come across as too pretentious!

Simon biggrin.gif

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Hi James,

I don't disappreciate anyones efforts, i know from personal experience how hard it is to get clubs off the ground & i think what you've both written is very well put.

I personally though do see a big difference in the pictures, the Wigan one looks full of people living a way of life, the other looks full of people enjoying themselves (which is great) but more a hotch potch of people, the Wigan one looks like a Soul gang.

Hope i haven't come across as too pretentious!

Simon biggrin.gif

Well if a 300 strong 'soul gang' want to turn up at 11pm and fill this amazing club up when it opens then I'll be disappointed because our efforts to get young people interested in this awesome music would have been wasted on your type Simon, as we won't be able to let any of them in wicked.giflaugh.gif

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Young crowd yes, but not at any cost, when i first got into it it was through the Mod scene & i already had the suss not to drink or smoke on the dancefloor.

In general most people don't smoke and drink on the dancefloor, but with any young crowd there is always a few. i also got into Northern through the mod scene and still consider myself more on the mod side than Northern. I remember plenty of drinking and smoking on the dancefloor in the 80s as the night went on and got messier. I don't think it is unreasonable just to politely ask someone not to drink on the dance floor if it is bothering you.

A lot of people just don't get it nowadays & that includes older people dancing & drinking on the floor, i think personally it's because the scene is now less about dancing than it used to be.

I have to stongly disagree with the statement that the scene is now less about dancing than it used to be. If going to a soul night isn't about dancing what is it about? I think we must be going to completely different events. There are very few soul events I have been to where I have seen anyone smoking or drinking on the dance floor, except for mine of course whistling.gif

I am now very very choosy where i go & if it's not what i expect from a night i just don't bother anymore, i'd rather stay in, this is all just my personal views though, i'm sure there's plenty of peeps who aren't as bothered.

That's a shame, there isn't much that would keep me away from a night of soul or RnB. thumbsup.gif (except wearing ill fitting trousers on the dance floor, that would really bug me ranting_1.gif )

Simon

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Well if a 300 strong 'soul gang' want to turn up at 11pm and fill this amazing club up when it opens then I'll be disappointed because our efforts to get young people interested in this awesome music would have been wasted on your type Simon, as we won't be able to let any of them in wicked.giflaugh.gif

Hi James,

The music cerainly isn't wasted on my type James because i am as passionate as you can possibly be about it, it's in my veins.

My view is though you can't get people into this sort of music, they're either born being into it or they're not, if it is meant to be they will find the music just like i did.

Simon

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Hi James,

The music cerainly isn't wasted on my type James because i am as passionate as you can possibly be about it, it's in my veins.

My view is though you can't get people into this sort of music, they're either born being into it or they're not, if it is meant to be they will find the music just like i did.

Simon

Ooh I feel a nature v nurture debate coming on. Now I understand the lyrics to "my baby likes to boogaloo" laugh.gif How do you know if you like it or how do you find it if no-one ever introduces you to it? Probably you happen to stumble onto it on a drunken night out with your mates - beer in hand on the dance floor - and seek it out again. I think that the memories you aquire in your youth of the music that you had all those good times to is a very strong motivator. If your first introduction to Northern Soul is at some stuffy venue with old men hassling you all night to keep your drink off the dancefloor and tutting when you bump into them whilst jigging around in your own way then obviously you aren't going to seek it out again. I don't really get where you are coming from Simon - please expand on your point - but not too much or we will be kicked into freebasing shhh.gif

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Hi James,

The music cerainly isn't wasted on my type James because i am as passionate as you can possibly be about it, it's in my veins.

My view is though you can't get people into this sort of music, they're either born being into it or they're not, if it is meant to be they will find the music just like i did.

Simon

They need somwhere to go though, and I can promise you that anyone who has not been to a northern soul night before will not go to one without somehow getting hooked on it at a local event first.

Some of the Chelmsford crowd now refer to the Chelmsford event as "The northern soul night", not "you Know You Got Soul" and I have had a couple of people email me asking me to let them know about other 'northern soul' events they could go to. I've obviously pointed them to the 100 club and will be suggesting St Ives's allnighter after December's Chelmsford soul night. But one of the girls has said that the 100 club seems a little 'scary' being a 1.30am start and her and her friends "need to get into training" laugh.gif

People need to start somewhere. And if there is as strong a contigent of more experienced soulies at the future Colchester events as there was at the first one it will certainly make our 'mission' that little bit easier.

Personally, I can't see how anyone can knock it huh.gif

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I don't really get where you are coming from Simon - please expand on your point - but not too much or we will be kicked into freebasing :shhh:

Simple really, people are constantly banging on about getting young people into the scene, why?

I don't personally care if it's a young or an old crowd, i just want people in the venue who get it. Lots of people don't get it like some of the people drinking & smoking on the dancefloor in your picture.

I can see what you're trying to do i.e. getting a younger trendier crowd into NS & Funk & the like but for me the NS scene has certain principles that a lot of these people don't get or understand & i doubt wether they ever will.

Simon

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They need somwhere to go though, and I can promise you that anyone who has not been to a northern soul night before will not go to one without somehow getting hooked on it at a local event first.

Some of the Chelmsford crowd now refer to the Chelmsford event as "The northern soul night", not "you Know You Got Soul" and I have had a couple of people email me asking me to let them know about other 'northern soul' events they could go to. I've obviously pointed them to the 100 club and will be suggesting St Ives's allnighter after December's Chelmsford soul night. But one of the girls has said that the 100 club seems a little 'scary' being a 1.30am start and her and her friends "need to get into training" :lol:

People need to start somewhere. And if there is as strong a contigent of more experienced soulies at the future Colchester events as there was at the first one it will certainly make out 'mission' that little bit easier.

Personally, I can't see how anyone can knock it :shhh:

I can't really argue with anything you've said James as you put it so passionately & eloquently, maybe it's just me, maybe it's an age thing or maybe i'm just an elitist snob!

Simon :lol:

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Hi Simon

It's advertised as mainly a younger crowd new to the soul scene - they really enjoyed and got into the music. Surely this is what we need to refresh the scene which at times feels a little stagnant. Everyone was new to the scene at some point and everyone has been guilty of being young, drunk and drinking on the dancefloor - haven't they? Or is it just me :shhh:

:lol::lol::yes:

More power to your elbow Donna, and that upstart Trouble both doing whats needed to give a new lease of life to the scene.

With respect to the pic James posted up i couldn't actually see any one drinking or somoking while they were dancing :lol: a few on the outskirts of the dancfloor with drinks in their hands but thats it, nothing differnt to any other venue.

Long may this continue :lol:

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Simple really, people are constantly banging on about getting young people into the scene, why?

No disrespect at all ment to anyone in this photo, or the event it was taken at. But this is why.

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Simple really, people are constantly banging on about getting young people into the scene, why?

I don't personally care if it's a young or an old crowd, i just want people in the venue who get it. Lots of people don't get it like some of the people drinking & smoking on the dancefloor in your picture.

I can see what you're trying to do i.e. getting a younger trendier crowd into NS & Funk & the like but for me the NS scene has certain principles that a lot of these people don't get or understand & i doubt wether they ever will.

Simon

Sorry Simon I still have no idea where you are coming from - what do you mean by trendier? What principles apart from keeping the dance floor for dancing dont they get?

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No disrespect at all ment to anyone in this photo, or the event it was taken at. But this is why.

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:shhh::lol::lol:

Apologies to Keith & the other people in this picture but i do enjoy James's fearlessness!

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:lol::lol::yes:

Apologies to Keith & the other people in this picture but i do enjoy James's fearlessness!

As I said, I in no way mean disrespect to the people featured in these photos, but here is another one:

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That's kind of scary, And I'd hate to think that is what the future of the northern soul scene holds for me. :lol:

I personally like the look of the picture at the Casino more than the pictures I see of the current soul scene. It looks more fun and hell of a lot more exciting.

That is why people like me would like to see just a few fresher and excited faces.

In my humble opinion of course :shhh:

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Sorry Simon I still have no idea where you are coming from - what do you mean by trendier? What principles apart from keeping the dance floor for dancing dont they get?

I don't know Donna because i don't personally know everyone in the picture, i was just making a general observation from looking at a picture, my comments were made on instinct not fact.

Simon

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I personally like the look of the picture at the Casino more than the pictures I see of the current soul scene. It looks more fun and hell of a lot more exciting.

Funnily enough so do i James & that is probably why i originally commented, i in an ideal world would like to see young people looking sussed & going for it on the dancefloor, not standing around having a chat, a fag & a beer.

But unfortunately i'm not sure there's that many young people around who get it or are ever likely to get it but fair play to you for at least trying.

Simon

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I don't know Donna because i don't personally know everyone in the picture, i was just making a general observation from looking at a picture, my comments were made on instinct not fact.

Simon

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We'll see you on the 28th then Simon! :lol::shhh:

You never know James, i like your passion for the scene & the fact you're not afraid to speak your mind to try & improve it.

And you & Donna may have won me over slightly with some of your well put across points, i could always stand in the middle of the floor where there doesn't appear to be any drinking or smoking going on! :lol:

Simon

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You never know James, i like your passion for the scene & the fact you're not afraid to speak your mind to try & improve it.

And you & Donna may have won me over slightly with some of your well put across points, i could always stand in the middle of the floor where there doesn't appear to be any drinking or smoking going on! :lol:

Simon

Would be great to see you there Simon :shhh: But no ill fitting trousers please :lol:

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Young crowd yes, but not at any cost, when i first got into it it was through the Mod scene & i already had the suss not to drink or smoke on the dancefloor.

A lot of people just don't get it nowadays & that includes older people dancing & drinking on the floor, i think personally it's because the scene is now less about dancing than it used to be.

I am now very very choosy where i go & if it's not what i expect from a night i just don't bother anymore, i'd rather stay in, this is all just my personal views though, i'm sure there's plenty of peeps who aren't as bothered.

Simon

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I should add the full address really shouldn't I:

Church Lane

Colchester

CO1 1NF

It's the very old church in the graveyard with an iron gate at the entrance right at the end of the lane- you cant miss it!

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seems like i've missed a lively debate on here.

personally i like an event

that has a bit of

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plus a bit of

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and..

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with a touch of

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& a pinch of:

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(two authentic depictions of good old after-parties...i think you'll agree)

looking forward to tonight folks!!

A

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seems like i've missed a lively debate on here.

personally i like an event

that has a bit of

wigan_casino.jpg

plus a bit of

med_gallery_663_790_558513.jpg

and..

.Sneakers15.jpg

sneekers1.jpg

with a touch of

IMG0029.jpg

& a pinch of:

IMG0054.jpg

(two authentic depictions of good old after-parties...i think you'll agree)

looking forward to tonight folks!!

A

:D I love the olde worlde version of spinning in the bottom right hand corner - much less dangerous after a few pints!

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No disrespect James but that's the sort of picture that puts me off going to a do, people smoking & drinking on the dancefloor.

Simon

Personally, it doesn't matter what sort of music anyone is in to but smoking should be banned from ALL dancefloors from a safety pov and it will be when the smoking ban comes in. Looking at this picture, the younger fresh faced newbies are very much in the majority, and of course they will want ot do it thier way. I think the best course of action would be for the established soulies to take the time and trouble to talk to as many people as possible, and in the course of the conversation explain about the no drinks and why. No one can be expected to know the etiquette beforehand. Most of the people here will enjoy the night for what it is, a bloody good nightut but let's hope a decent percentage get the bug! Hope it goes well! :D

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Personally, it doesn't matter what sort of music anyone is in to but smoking should be banned from ALL dancefloors from a safety pov and it will be when the smoking ban comes in. Looking at this picture, the younger fresh faced newbies are very much in the majority, and of course they will want ot do it thier way. I think the best course of action would be for the established soulies to take the time and trouble to talk to as many people as possible, and in the course of the conversation explain about the no drinks and why. No one can be expected to know the etiquette beforehand. Most of the people here will enjoy the night for what it is, a bloody good nightut but let's hope a decent percentage get the bug! Hope it goes well! :D

Fags on the floor,nice!!!,i`ll buy ten specialy :D

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Personally, it doesn't matter what sort of music anyone is in to but smoking should be banned from ALL dancefloors from a safety pov and it will be when the smoking ban comes in. Looking at this picture, the younger fresh faced newbies are very much in the majority, and of course they will want ot do it thier way. I think the best course of action would be for the established soulies to take the time and trouble to talk to as many people as possible, and in the course of the conversation explain about the no drinks and why. No one can be expected to know the etiquette beforehand. Most of the people here will enjoy the night for what it is, a bloody good nightut but let's hope a decent percentage get the bug! Hope it goes well! :D

Good point Mark.

Given time, and fingers crossed they get hooked (and why won't they, it's great music), they will want to dance seriously and will want to keep the dance floor clear in the end anyway. I'm sure it's alien for most younger people to think of the dance floor as being 'sacred', so an aggressive attitude is certainly not the way forward with them. Setting a good example is probably a better approach and then let the music go to work...

But having said that I think you'll find there is a lot of dance floor space tonight anyway, I had no trouble finding dry wood last month and I'm packing my dancing shoes... :D

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I think the best course of action would be for the established soulies to take the time and trouble to talk to as many people as possible, and in the course of the conversation explain about the no drinks and why. No one can be expected to know the etiquette beforehand.

Just put up signs around the venue stating no drinking or smoking on the dancefloor tis what i used to do at the Brighton alldayers & it seemed to work fairly well.

I don't personally think peeps have got the time or the inclination to educate people on dancefloor etiquette, most people just want to go to a club to chat to their mates, drink, dance & generally have a good time, maybe NS etiquette should be taught at school!

Simon :D

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Just put up signs around the venue stating no drinking or smoking on the dancefloor tis what i used to do at the Brighton alldayers & it seemed to work fairly well.

I don't personally think peeps have got the time or the inclination to educate people on dancefloor etiquette, most people just want to go to a club to chat to their mates, drink, dance & generally have a good time, maybe NS etiquette should be taught at school!

Simon :D

That's what we do at the Chelmsford events and it works very well. Last event we even had some of the local 'youth' bring their own talc. But if it wasn't for the more experienced soulies coming along to enjoy the night and set an example I don't think it would have happenned :D

It's taken a couple of years, but the friendly, chilled out approach seems to be working in Chelmsford. Fingers crossed it'll be the same for Colchester...

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Just put up signs around the venue stating no drinking or smoking on the dancefloor tis what i used to do at the Brighton alldayers & it seemed to work fairly well.

I don't personally think peeps have got the time or the inclination to educate people on dancefloor etiquette, most people just want to go to a club to chat to their mates, drink, dance & generally have a good time, maybe NS etiquette should be taught at school!

Simon :D

Well talking as you have pointed out is part and parcel of a night out. I'm one of these gregarious types and obviously there will be a certain amount of inter action between the newbies and established. And for me, enthusing about the soul scene to someone who is interested is part of the night and reminds me, should I need it why the soul scene is so great. Bouncing off each other I think it's called. Not saying you should formally teach but intergration is better than segregation! I wish I was coming but have a prior engagement!

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It was another very good do and though numbers were down to about 250-300, the atmosphere was even better. It seemed more relaxed, like people were getting the hang of it. Plenty of good collector's soul records were played along with a sensible amount of classics to keep the momentum going. The second night is usually the trickiest so I think by the time of Eddie Pillar's appearance on the Dec 29th the place will be humming.

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