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the original post was abbout concerns with an anonymous bidder id 0***c (373) on auctions

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Have you reported it to Ebay?

Had this discussion on here numerous times over the years.

Established and reputable sellers like carolinasoul don't engage in such dodgy practices simply because they don't need to ... and to do so would only damage their reputation and goodwill.

They attract high bids from lots of serious bidders because they offer quality items on a regular basis and are extremely conservative when grading their records ... just like Jason Koenig (Funkyou) , paperstax and others.

If you're finding the same bidder on multiple items listed by the one seller, it's either a  lone wolf private collector bidding on 30 items to try to bag a couple at a reasonable price ... or more likely a serious UK soul dealer bidding and winning most of the high end items from the one seller and then putting them up for sale on his ... or her ... own website at an even greater premium;  many on here know one individual in particular in the UK who operates that way (anyone care for some rare northern soul?) . But then, that's what business and the free market is all about.

Finally, if you don't like what's going on, then the best advice is ... just don't bid.  No one is forcing you to buy.  Get out of the rat race and you'll probably feel so much better and your pocket will be so much fuller ...

 

 

I've asked this before but what is "extremely conservative" grading ?

I've looked at CS's auctions and most don't get over VG+ and many are less.

Is his VG+ others' M- ?

I don't buy anything on US Ebay described as below M-/NM/VG++.

Any fussy collectors on here who can say they've bought off CS [or others mentioned] and been pleasantly surprised ?

 

 

I've bought a few things and always been pleased and happy that they were in top condition even when described as VG. While I wouldn't class myself as fussy as I don't mind something that has had "a bit of a life", I do expect to get what's described at the very least. CS has always under- promised and over delivered. 

With regard to the bidder who seems to be on lot's of the items, the picture is as below. Sometimes folks send records to certain dealers to sell on their behalf. The original owner owner could be tempted to fire in a few bids which the dealer listing would not have been directly responsible for. I'm not saying that is the case here....(45 bid retractions !!!). Some folks just like certain dealers.

Bid History: Details

Bidding Details

    
Bidder Information
Bidder:    o***o( 373) 
Feedback:    100%Positive
Item description:    Northern Soul 45 - Tony Galla - In Love - Swan - mp3
Bids on this item:    1
    
30-Day Summary
Total bids:    241
Items bid on:    177
Bid activity (%) with this seller:    21%    
Bid retractions:    0
Bid retractions (6 months):    45

30-Day Bid History
 Category    No. of Bids    Seller    Last Bid

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As a consignee you have to sign a legal agreement/contract to not bid on your own stuff or instruct third parties to with the express intention of only driving the price up & not winning.

Yes their grading is visual based & conservative. Soundclips are included for full transparency.

I have four things up this round:

Lively Set

Syndicate Of Sound Inc

Elder William Smith

Protein Bros

I will 100% not be bidding on my own stuff!!

9 minutes ago, Kris Holmes said:

As a consignee you have to sign a legal agreement/contract to not bid on your own stuff or instruct third parties to with the express intention of only driving the price up & not winning.

Yes their grading is visual based & conservative. Soundclips are included for full transparency.

I have four things up this round:

Lively Set

Syndicate Of Sound Inc

Elder William Smith

Protein Bros

I will 100% not be bidding on my own stuff!!

Interesting. But what I don't get, is why people would send a consignment of records to a dealer to sell on Ebay for them, what is the benefit of doing that. Why not just list them yourself?  A genuine question, what is the reason, any ideas anyone?

4 minutes ago, Tai-Pan said:

Interesting. But what I don't get, is why people would send a consignment of records to a dealer to sell on Ebay for them, what is the benefit of doing that. Why not just list them yourself?  A genuine question, what is the reason, any ideas anyone?

Because of reach. Carolina Soul is one of the biggest out there, with a loyal following. You could list the same record as they have, at the same time, and the chance is high there's will sell for a fair chunk more - mainly because theyve built a good business, theyre great sellers (descriptions, scans, clips, shipping, packaging, quality of stock). So people look out for their auctions - people like all of us - and start threads on other sites about them 😁 Free traffic drivers!

Edited June 13, 20186 yr by olliewtf

Exactly. More eyes, partly because of threads like this even.

His vg is a uk ex. It is easily vg+. 

Edited June 13, 20186 yr by chalky

How many times do you have to tell them chalky 

7 hours ago, modernsoulsucks said:

I've asked this before but what is "extremely conservative" grading ?

I've looked at CS's auctions and most don't get over VG+ and many are less.

Is his VG+ others' M- ?

I don't buy anything on US Ebay described as below M-/NM/VG++.

Any fussy collectors on here who can say they've bought off CS [or others mentioned] and been pleasantly surprised ?

 

 

Yes, I’m a fussy collector and have been very pleased with the records from Carolina Soul. When the grading is conservative, you usually end up more than pleased. One thing I have noticed though is there are more records likely to be on consignment appearing - the grades of these are a little lower than in previous auctions suggesting dealers are unloading well-used records in the hope of earning a higher return.

A problem that can occur with records auctioned on behalf of another party is shiv bidding... This is common on eBay and particularly affects rare records that simmer slowly before the snipers get stuck in. A look at the bidder’s history reveals whether they are selective in their targets, keen to get publicity by making dozens of low bids or plain dodgy by withdrawing loads of bids.

Generally speaking, I have found the big U.S.A. dealers to be excellent in all respects.

Carolina Soul are top notch. I went into their brick-and-mortar store last year and it turns out that they are also extremely cool people. I bought about $200 worth of records (mostly gospel) and they threw in a couple cheapies and a t-shirt for free! can't beat that.

It is in downtown Durham (if you are ever out that way).   

Edited June 26, 20186 yr by ljblanken

On 13/06/2018 at 10:09, Tai-Pan said:

Interesting. But what I don't get, is why people would send a consignment of records to a dealer to sell on Ebay for them, what is the benefit of doing that. Why not just list them yourself?  A genuine question, what is the reason, any ideas anyone?

The amount of exposure plain & simple. Carolina Soul has a following and valuable reputation with good business tactics and practices. There isn't anything to worry about CS and his crew. In the worst case scenario, if something happens to a record from an auction you won they'll take care of it.

The consignment deal is attractive to those who don't have the time or don't want to bother with eBay and all of it's trappings and occasional headaches. For those of us who do choose to sell ourselves, CS presents an interesting set of issues. While they do command higher prices than most anyone else gets, it's not likely enough to make up the consignment percentage when we can do the work ourselves. However, we have to fight for the same sets of eyeballs, which means sometimes we feel like we're just wholesaling records or giving them away. Then again, I personally still have instances where I am getting higher bids on eBay than the same record that I've had sitting for a set price on Discogs for weeks. I guess in that way it all evens out. CS does a great job at what they do, no doubt. I've bought from them as well and certainly would again. Savvy shoppers will know to look beyond *just* what they offer though.