one of the biggest gripes you will hear is " heard this an hour ago "or worse still"4 th time ive heard this tonight" with the amount of toons available it is not acceptable is it?

whats the answer

one of the biggest gripes you will hear is " heard this an hour ago "or worse still"4 th time ive heard this tonight" with the amount of toons available it is not acceptable is it?

whats the answer

Walk off the dance floor if it's so annoying, maybe DJ's would soon get the message if all did the same?

Only answer is change your venues immediately.

Go to the right venue (Lifeline,DDA at Lowton,100 Club,Wilton, Creative Soul, etc), can guarantee if you hear repeats there its because they are so good and fresh they demand a repeat, screaming loudly play me again. Stop the proliferation of nothing different (no matter what they say otherwise) venues and support the above, then you have one scene moving forward, just like the old days, sort of.

Next question please.

Jock, NS Agony Aunt extraordinare.

Punch them every time it happens.

one of the biggest gripes you will hear is " heard this an hour ago "or worse still"4 th time ive heard this tonight" with the amount of toons available it is not acceptable is it?

whats the answer

It's down to promotors to police. Any DJ can do it I have but never when I know the track has been played. When I'm on at a night I get there early and listen to whats being played. I have missed the odd one and duplicated later but I can only remember doing that once and that was recently. What's annoying is when DJ's arrive late and make no attempt to vary what they are going to play or even find out if stuff has been played before they arrived.

There are few repeats at Middleton that's because Andy notices and tells the DJ's it's not on. He also tells DJ's off for playing too safe. Thats why Middleton is the success it is. There should be more promoters like that.

Didn't we do this topic very recently? How can we stop all these repeat threads....

Didn't we do this topic very recently? How can we stop all these repeat threads....

thwo them to the fwoor,verry ,verry woughly.

Didn't we do this topic very recently? How can we stop all these repeat threads....

sorry if it has been up before!!!!!

Here's the link to the most recent big thread on repeat plays with assorted ideas on solutions! https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=63519

It's down to promotors to police. Any DJ can do it I have but never when I know the track has been played. When I'm on at a night I get there early and listen to whats being played. I have missed the odd one and duplicated later but I can only remember doing that once and that was recently. What's annoying is when DJ's arrive late and make no attempt to vary what they are going to play or even find out if stuff has been played before they arrived.

There are few repeats at Middleton that's because Andy notices and tells the DJ's it's not on. He also tells DJ's off for playing too safe. Thats why Middleton is the success it is. There should be more promoters like that.

i agree ged not at middleton or lifeline or burnley where the djs turn up and listen and care!!!

a 5000 volt shock through the mike might help!

Here's the link to the most recent big thread on repeat plays with assorted ideas on solutions! https://www.soul-source.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=63519

i apologise as i was not a member then ooops!

i apologise as i was not a member then ooops!

No worries, thought you might find it interesting

one of the biggest gripes you will hear is " heard this an hour ago "or worse still"4 th time ive heard this tonight" with the amount of toons available it is not acceptable is it?

whats the answer

Dj's should be there for the whole event, not just their spot....I get the feeling at some events, that, even though they are in the same room, the dj's aren't listening to whats being played. Because they are going to play what they have planned to play before coming out! Whether its played before, or not.

I agree with Jock but in the last thread i advocated an electric shock I still like that idea with the shock getting stronger by the amount of repitition on the night.

Dj's should be there for the whole event, not just their spot....I get the feeling at some events, that, even though they are in the same room, the dj's aren't listening to whats being played. Because they are going to play what they have planned to play before coming out! Whether its played before, or not.

Agree Paul,i think DJs booked should try and get to the event early,enjoy yourself & support it.

Apart from the odd few tunes,pre planning your set surely takes away the enjoyment of DJ'n.

Edited February 26, 200817 yr by nick hackett

Didn't we do this topic very recently? How can we stop all these repeat threads....

My answer is always play the early set then you can't repeat what someone else has played and another tip only play rubbish records like I do and no-one will ever want repeat them

QoFxx

Think i said this on the last thread BUT at The Orwell, we are a 'One spin a night' venue!

If a DJ had brought a specific tune to play and someone else played it before they got on, he/she would be expected to 'find another un'. This works at smaller events like ours, especially because all the DJ's tend to be there all night and listen to everything being played! It's not rocket science is it?

All credit to ALL soul events that have this policy, of which there are lots!

As a word of advice for the huge corporate oldies events that have been blighted by this problem (i.e. DJ's turning up minutes before their set and repeating tunes played only minutes earlier), i'd have a system of at least jotting down what you'd played on a pad next to the decks, so the next DJ can see what not to play!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's not rocket science either!

Only my opinion of course!

Cheers

Steve

My answer is always play the early set then you can't repeat what someone else has played and another tip only play rubbish records like I do and no-one will ever want repeat them

QoFxx

Works for me too

Tony

As a word of advice for the huge corporate oldies events that have been blighted by this problem (i.e. DJ's turning up minutes before their set and repeating tunes played only minutes earlier), i'd have a system of at least jotting down what you'd played on a pad next to the decks, so the next DJ can see what not to play!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's not rocket science either!

Only my opinion of course!

Cheers

Steve

I cant write!!

Think i said this on the last thread BUT at The Orwell, we are a 'One spin a night' venue!

If a DJ had brought a specific tune to play and someone else played it before they got on, he/she would be expected to 'find another un'. This works at smaller events like ours, especially because all the DJ's tend to be there all night and listen to everything being played! It's not rocket science is it?

All credit to ALL soul events that have this policy, of which there are lots!

As a word of advice for the huge corporate oldies events that have been blighted by this problem (i.e. DJ's turning up minutes before their set and repeating tunes played only minutes earlier), i'd have a system of at least jotting down what you'd played on a pad next to the decks, so the next DJ can see what not to play!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's not rocket science either!

Only my opinion of course!

Cheers0

Steve

It's not rocket science - or has that already had an outing (twice)

Think i said this on the last thread BUT at The Orwell, we are a 'One spin a night' venue!

If a DJ had brought a specific tune to play and someone else played it before they got on, he/she would be expected to 'find another un'. This works at smaller events like ours, especially because all the DJ's tend to be there all night and listen to everything being played! It's not rocket science is it?

All credit to ALL soul events that have this policy, of which there are lots!

As a word of advice for the huge corporate oldies events that have been blighted by this problem (i.e. DJ's turning up minutes before their set and repeating tunes played only minutes earlier), i'd have a system of at least jotting down what you'd played on a pad next to the decks, so the next DJ can see what not to play!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's not rocket science either!

Only my opinion of course!

Cheers

Steve

Hi Steve,maybe only at some events..Imagine Butch/Andy Dyson/Mick H etc happily jotting down playlists/cover ups.

Funny how times change, back in the mists of time it was common place to hear indemand tunes played more than once. I can remember people coming and saying things along the lines of "I know you played it in your last set but please play @*&*@ again". Real indemand tunes at Wigan, Yate or The Ritz could often be played twice and people loved it.

Now playing tunes twice in an hour is a bit much, I know. But there again, can remember some tunes that Guy was really behind being played at the beginning and end of his set, peeps couldn't get enough of them.

I think the problem comes when the tunes are already somewhat played out or tired oldies.

But as I said times change.

Funny how times change, back in the mists of time it was common place to hear indemand tunes played more than once. I can remember people coming and saying things along the lines of "I know you played it in your last set but please play @*&*@ again". Real indemand tunes at Wigan, Yate or The Ritz could often be played twice and people loved it.

Now playing tunes twice in an hour is a bit much, I know. But there again, can remember some tunes that Guy was really behind being played at the beginning and end of his set, peeps couldn't get enough of them.

I think the problem comes when the tunes are already somewhat played out or tired oldies.

But as I said times change.

I think in this case its perfectly exceptable........In fact I might do it myself !!!!!!!!.

Russ

I think this has become worse of late due to some (big) DJ's wanting to play at 2 or 3 different venues in a night.

Made a decision now at our venue not top book DJ's that we know will arrive shortly before their time and scuttle off 5 minutes after they have been paid. Much better off having a DJ who wants to enjoy the night and socialise with the punters than just grabbing as much cash as they can. IMHO

Mark

Think i said this on the last thread BUT at The Orwell, we are a 'One spin a night' venue!

If a DJ had brought a specific tune to play and someone else played it before they got on, he/she would be expected to 'find another un'. This works at smaller events like ours, especially because all the DJ's tend to be there all night and listen to everything being played! It's not rocket science is it?

All credit to ALL soul events that have this policy, of which there are lots!

As a word of advice for the huge corporate oldies events that have been blighted by this problem (i.e. DJ's turning up minutes before their set and repeating tunes played only minutes earlier), i'd have a system of at least jotting down what you'd played on a pad next to the decks, so the next DJ can see what not to play!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's not rocket science either!

Only my opinion of course!

Cheers

Steve

There might be lots of venues with this policy and I dont believe there are many promotors who aren't annoyied when a dj repeats but you can't guarentee that you're venue will deffo be a 'one spin a night' venue without an unrealistic control over your DJ's and if it happens accidently by the time you've told the Dj it'll be half way through and highly unlikely he'll pull it there and then (although I know a man who would and also apologises too!)

I also find it unrealistic for people to say 'support these venues it wont or doesn't happen here' unless you've got a crystal ball of course.

There's no place for repeats at Bury and when it happens as it did recently I went upto the stage and pointed out to the DJ that although its a good tune, it sounded better two hours earlier when previous DJ played it. As a promotor you can do your best to prevent it but you can't guarentee that 'it wont happen at my venue'.

Jayne.

Edited February 26, 200817 yr by Miss BurySoul

Think i said this on the last thread BUT at The Orwell, we are a 'One spin a night' venue!

If a DJ had brought a specific tune to play and someone else played it before they got on, he/she would be expected to 'find another un'. This works at smaller events like ours, especially because all the DJ's tend to be there all night and listen to everything being played! It's not rocket science is it?

All credit to ALL soul events that have this policy, of which there are lots!

Only my opinion of course!

Cheers

Steve

You are right of course and many events follow this course. Same policy at Lifeline (though inevitably at a nine hour event one or two slipped through the net while DJs are outside having a fag or summat) but generally NO repeats. Same thing at Essence Saturday night - which is a toughie if you're on last like me You sit there listening to all these gems getting dropped in ahead of you. Same thing at the Herts and Beds venues such as the Irish Centre, Blue Skies, Spirella, and The Ath, where the DJ's agree not to re-programme sounds that have already been played that evening. It's easy really and it's not an uncommon approach.

I accept the point about turning up early, but not always possible on a Friday evening do.....I physically cannot get to a venue much before 8 30 and I think if something is played early doors it may be OK to spin it once again later when the place is heaving. But there in heart and spirit and agree with the non repetition spirit.

Steve

Perhaps promoters should have a pretty good idea of the types of sounds played by DJ's they book and book a selection of people who play different styles/types/tracks to compliment rather than copy?

Perhaps promoters should have a pretty good idea of the types of sounds played by DJ's they book and book a selection of people who play different styles/types/tracks to compliment rather than copy?

Jayne.x.

Hi Steve,maybe only at some events..Imagine Butch/Andy Dyson/Mick H etc happily jotting down playlists/cover ups.

They would of course all be exempt Nick

I meant corporate venues catering for the Top 500 oldies - There's nowt wrong with this at all BUT you only want to hear Frankie Beverley etc once a night at peak time don't you?

It's not rocket science - or has that already had an outing (twice)

There's always one

I think the problem comes when the tunes are already somewhat played out or tired oldies.

That's what I was meaing Dave

Cheers

Steve

The general gist of this thread does appear to be pointing the finger squarely at commercial type nights.

How strange that the venues and nights run with a bit of passion appear to care about the music and scene in general - or is it?

Past glories or forward thinkers. No where I'd go.

The general gist of this thread does appear to be pointing the finger squarely at commercial type nights.

How strange that the venues and nights run with a bit of passion appear to care about the music and scene in general - or is it?

Past glories or forward thinkers. No where I'd go.

So are you suggesting that a night run with a bit of passion by those who appear to care about the music wouldn't run an oldies night or appreciate 'past glories'??..

Please tell me I'm wrong.

Jayne.

So are you suggesting that a night run with a bit of passion by those who appear to care about the music wouldn't run an oldies night or appreciate 'past glories'??..

Please tell me I'm wrong.

Jayne.

Sorry - misunderestandiong by me being to lazy to type a full explanation. It was meant to suggest that those nights aimed at farming people through the doors in vast numbers whilst selling them every accoutrement required for the full experience, appear to be the ones that are more guilty of allowing tracks to be played several times over the course of a night.

An oldies night can be run with passion and not have repeat plays of a track by various DJ's - after all there are more than 500 tracks to choose from. The first date in my signature will be an oldies and stompers night by request of the people who attend it. The Dj's will know that the same rules apply and they will do their utmost to ensure that they do no replay a track unless there is a very good reason.

So many appologies for the misunderstanding and happy days with all those lovely tunes that need to be aired.

as someone has already said dj's need to be there 2 hours before their set and listen to what's going on .... not brain surgery . .... when Carl Fortnum was a guest at Cambridge he was early , was always looking at the reaction to different chooons and popped out to his car for a few more chooons once he had a good idea what the crow wanted ..... wish I had a bag of extra's in my boot like the one's he came in with ! but this just shows the difference between a collector that dj's and a dj that has a great collection of records IMHO....

Sorry - misunderestandiong by me being to lazy to type a full explanation.

LOL - well that's honest!..

Ah yes, I getcha now..

Like those money making type ventures where promotors care more about how much dosh they make than the quality of the night they give?.. yeh, I guess so... maybe I'm being thick today..

Jayne.

LOL - well that's honest!..

Ah yes, I getcha now..

Like those money making type ventures where promotors care more about how much dosh they make than the quality of the night they give?.. yeh, I guess so... maybe I'm being thick today..

Jayne.

Bingo - thats the ones. I tend to be thick most days so no worries.