From The Northern Soul Of Dore volume 1+2

Full length version.

From The Northern Soul Of Dore volume 1+2

Full length version.

Wasn`t this pressed up recently on a joe boy 45?

From Kent its on one of their LP's.

The best known and fondly remembered of Dore soul output was cut in 1966. The song came to the label via its writer Lou Baretto, Lew Badell could remember little about of Rita other than she was Italian/American but he distinctly remembers Lou Barreto who also introduced him to Bob Relf .

Barreto famously recorded Blowing My Mind To Pieces and Lew went on to cut the master with Bob himself the tantalisingly named Red Alert sadly unreleased and even more sadly eluding us.

Bob Relf found fame as Bob & Earl and in peculiar Northern Soul coincidence Lew also recorded Bobby Day, the original Bob of Bob && Earl.

Lew cut two versions of GWTW at the original session a full take and the 45 issue.

From Kent its on one of their LP's.

The best known and fondly remembered of Dore soul output was cut in 1966. The song came to the label via its writer Lou Baretto, Lew Badell could remember little about of Rita other than she was Italian/American but he distinctly remembers Lou Barreto who also introduced him to Bob Relf .

Barreto famously recorded Blowing My Mind To Pieces and Lew went on to cut the master with Bob himself the tantalisingly named Red Alert sadly unreleased and even more sadly eluding us.

Bob Relf found fame as Bob & Earl and in peculiar Northern Soul coincidence Lew also recorded Bobby Day, the original Bob of Bob && Earl.

Lew cut two versions of GWTW at the original session a full take and the 45 issue.

Thanks Proph.

Peter

I found out that other version is not by Ian Levine its is nothing to do with him what soever it was mixed by the owner of the label Lew Badell and it is only included on a JoeBoy CD with some Ian Levine tracks.

Record is now straight..

It wasn't actually a Kent LP, it was on Horace's, put out by Ady.

Pete I put a sound file up the other day of a third mix of this, thats what I was refering to in the last post.

Pete I put a sound file up the other day of a third mix of this, thats what I was refering to in the last post.

What, that disco thing?

What, that disco thing?

Yes! the CD is a 2 disc box set with alternaive takes of some stuff.

Yes! the CD is a 2 disc box set with alternaive takes of some stuff.

where's this disco take?

where's this disco take?

Proph posted it on the Levine thread - on one of the last few pages.

Proph posted it on the Levine thread - on one of the last few pages.

can't see it. can you post it on this topic Tony?

Wasn`t this pressed up recently on a joe boy 45?

This 7" is a sort of E.P I seem to remember with

Rita & The Tiaras - Gone With The Wind (alt version)

b/w The Superbs - On A Day When It's Raining,

& The Vel-Vets - You Don't Really Know 'Till Its Over

I hear its on the LP but its also on a Dore CD.

Bit confused here ...

Are we saying the Original full length unissued version is on the Horace LP, ???

If so, does anybody have the full details ??

I take it the REMIXED version is the Joe Boy CD "NS Of Dore Vol 1&2"

Cheers

Mick Holdsworth

https://northern-soul-records.com

https://motownsound.co.uk

I have the Northern Soul Of Dore, Rare Masters Volumes 1 & 2 (Night Owl Music not Joe Boy) Side one has the 45 take, side two has the full length take, the one with extra verse etc. The remixed take with drums and the ice cream van tone as someone called it over the top isn't on either.

Edited November 5, 200816 yr by chalky

I have the Northern Soul Of Dore, Rare Masters Volumes 1 & 2 (Night Owl Music not Joe Boy) Side one has the 45 take, side two has the full length take, the one with extra verse etc. The remixed take with drums and the ice cream van tone as someone called it over the top isn't on either.

Yes that spot on Mr C, but some other dodgy mixes on it must say.

Yes that spot on Mr C, but some other dodgy mixes on it must say.

Yes, the alt take of Dr Love came on after, I'm afraid I had to stop the cd

Yes, the alt take of Dr Love came on after, I'm afraid I had to stop the cd

Just listening to R&TT's

Now who can I lean on when all my friends folks have gone and Like a pail on the roof are both extra and I think these parts make the song a little darker

Just listening to R&TT's

Now who can I lean on when all my friends folks have gone and Like a pail on the roof are both extra and I think these parts make the song a little darker

I thought exactly the same mate.

Just listening to R&TT's

Now who can I lean on when all my friends folks have gone and Like a pail on the roof are both extra and I think these parts make the song a little darker

the songs got everything you'd want in a Northern Soul record, lyrics, vocals and it's a great dancer.

£1000 + for the 45 but it now seems to short on the dance floor and I am always left wanting a bit more.

A record I always thrilled & chilled to hear at Wigan and wanted then that Destiny version

appeared, any one got a sound clip of that.

Edited November 5, 200816 yr by Prophonics 2029

Bit confused here ...

Are we saying the Original full length unissued version is on the Horace LP, ???

If so, does anybody have the full details ??

Cheers

Mick Holdsworth

https://northern-soul-records.com

https://motownsound.co.uk

Sure is Mick. It's called Sun, Surf & Soul - 14 Dore West Coast Wonders. Issued on Ady's Horace's lable 1994.

Interestingly there's no mention of it being a different version on the sleeve notes, although they are pretty brief.

£1000 + for the 45 but it now seems to short on the dance floor and I am always left wanting a bit more.

A record I always thrilled & chilled to hear at Wigan and wanted then that Destiny version

appeared, any one got a sound clip of that.

Anyone want a destiny copy on pic sleeve (unplayed) £11.50 inc p/p (uk). Pm me

Just listening to R&TT's

Now who can I lean on when all my friends folks have gone and Like a pail on the roof are both extra and I think these parts make the song a little darker

Altho' I love R&T I was getting a bit tired of hearing it. This version has just shot it back up there! Superb, and agree, much darker and more pain-ridden. Awesome!

Sure is Mick. It's called Sun, Surf & Soul - 14 Dore West Coast Wonders. Issued on Ady's Horace's lable 1994.

Interestingly there's no mention of it being a different version on the sleeve notes, although they are pretty brief.

My brain was pretty brief then too, not enough attention to detail!

Anyone want a destiny copy on pic sleeve (unplayed) £11.50 inc p/p (uk). Pm me

11.50 think I had a copy of it for 45p back in the day dodge UK version like that on a magic carpet ride . Whoozit by not Rita is it.

11.50 think I had a copy of it for 45p back in the day dodge UK version like that on a magic carpet ride . Whoozit by not Rita is it.

The Destiny release was the proper version by Rita & Tiaras , but badly mastered, it played off centre and sounded really bad.

Cheers

Mick Holdsworth

https://northern-soul-records.com

https://motownsound.co.uk

The Destiny release was the proper version by Rita & Tiaras , but badly mastered, it played off centre and sounded really bad.

Cheers

Mick Holdsworth

https://northern-soul-records.com

https://motownsound.co.uk

Mine seems ok

I've got a Destiny copy and mine plays and sounds ok as well.

The Joe Boy release of the extended version is on CD only, not Joe Boy seven.

Glenn from Joe Boy cut me a promo carver on it when the label had rights to Dore and it is massive at Soulvation, it makes the Dore original seem too short!

Glenn was recently contacted out of the blue by Lou Barretto who was after info on "Gone With The Wind Is My Love" and was completely unaware that the record had a following in the UK.He has identified Rita as Rita Graham who recorded for Tangerine?

He is also adamant that one of The Tiaras is Linda Jones, as in THE Linda Jones. As she was tied up with New Jersey scene don't know how she would have featured on a LA recording session but that's what he says.

And believe it or not he says he could not remember "Blowing My Mind To Pieces" by Bob Relf which Lou wrote and I always thought produced. Glenn had to send him an MP3 .

As it's just about the best record ever it's a bit like Picasso forgetting he liked to do a bit of drawing!

I've got a Destiny copy and mine plays and sounds ok as well.

Maybe it was just the one copy I played that was off (Think it was a white DJ), and "assumed" the rest were the same.

Cheers

Mick Holdsworth

https://northern-soul-records.com

https://motownsound.co.uk

I always though the original was press was off centre, I have never know a re-issuer to take that much care and centre the record for the best play yet??

The Joe Boy release of the extended version is on CD only, not Joe Boy seven.

Glenn from Joe Boy cut me a promo carver on it when the label had rights to Dore and it is massive at Soulvation, it makes the Dore original seem too short!

Glenn was recently contacted out of the blue by Lou Barretto who was after info on "Gone With The Wind Is My Love" and was completely unaware that the record had a following in the UK.He has identified Rita as Rita Graham who recorded for Tangerine?

He is also adamant that one of The Tiaras is Linda Jones, as in THE Linda Jones. As she was tied up with New Jersey scene don't know how she would have featured on a LA recording session but that's what he says.

And believe it or not he says he could not remember "Blowing My Mind To Pieces" by Bob Relf which Lou wrote and I always thought produced. Glenn had to send him an MP3 .

As it's just about the best record ever it's a bit like Picasso forgetting he liked to do a bit of drawing!

I thought I read sometime ago that Lou didn't know who Rita was but was sure she was of Italian origin? Must be getting mixed up with someone else. I'll have a listen to both later.

I thought I read sometime ago that Lou didn't know who Rita was but was sure she was of Italian origin? Must be getting mixed up with someone else. I'll have a listen to both later.

Just looked it up from the Dore Rare Masters Vol 1&2 sleeve notes. It was Lew Bedell who remembered little about Rita other than she was Italian/American.

They do sound like the same bird Mr C all be it one of doom and gloom, the other a happy old fruit in love with her mates bloke.

A Ray Charles produced song as well.

They do sound like the same bird Mr C all be it one of doom and gloom, the other a happy old fruit in love with her mates bloke.

A Ray Charles produced song as well.

I've not listened yet Mr T and don't doubt it really, just threw me a bit when "confirmed" as Rita Graham as sure I'd read differently. Will have a listen later.

Did the 2 Dore CD's come out with a complimentary single originally ?

A limited issue did, but I think it was the short version, a look a like. Not sure what's on the flip.

They do sound like the same bird Mr C all be it one of doom and gloom, the other a happy old fruit in love with her mates bloke.

A Ray Charles produced song as well.

I've listened but not convinced yet so I've e-mailed Rita Graham, she should confirm one way or the other

Rita Graham is the vocalist on GWTWIML for sure. Here is her reply......

Hi--Chalky--Wow!

The Web never ceases to amaze me!

My name is Rita Graham, and I am the

vocalist on the 45rpm, 'Gone With The Wind

Is My Love' that was written and produced

by Lou Barreto.

I am an African-American, and I am

currently in the process of completing a

Ray Charles Tribute CD titled,

'My Days With Ray', while I perform every

week (since May, 1999) at Atlanta's famous

SupperClub/ShowRoom, The

Sambuca Jazz Cafe, as well as performing

with various BigBands and in International

Festivals.

Thanks for the interest,

and let me know if I can help in any way--

Regards,

RG

Phookin L Mr C well done, not only have you found her but you have had an email back, better than that Mickey Moonshine scenario.

Phookin L Mr C well done, not only have you found her but you have had an email back, better than that Mickey Moonshine scenario.

Wasn't too hard. Trying to get Rita to come on here, she's read the topic but couldn't see how to reply. She says she has a copy (albeit scratchy) that she's willing to sell.

She says she has a copy (albeit scratchy) that she's willing to sell.

She should stick it up on her site, dose she know how much its worth.

Also she has thousand of fans for this record alone, thousands

Humm I wonder if its a different colour than the pale blue like the multi coloured one's.

Edited November 11, 200816 yr by Prophonics 2029

Rita Graham is the vocalist on GWTWIML for sure. Here is her reply......

fascinating stuff, the singer of GWTWIML is comunicating with us, (well, chalky really) i love this kind of stuff, to me this is what its all about,getting close to the people who made the songs we love

Good stuff Chalky and chums, Ace will set up a contract for her as we now own Dore. Unfortunately it won't be too big a deal as I think there's just the one 45, but we can put the long version on a UK 45 and she'll benefit from that. Great sleuthing!

Edited November 12, 200816 yr by ady croasdell

I was thinking of a carver on that side but if its in the pipe line, I am sure I can wait.

What a surprise it must be for Rita.

I asked Rita who the Tiaras were....

Hi There!

Sorry, Chalky, I sang the lead vocal over the track,

and I never met the Tiaras. I don't remember who

Lou said they were--possibly Lou Barreto does (?)

For years, the 'background vocals' were

customarily recorded after the lead vocal was

recorded, and most of the time I wasn't in

the studio with the rest of the singers.

Be well,

Rita

Rita Graham is the vocalist on GWTWIML for sure. Here is her reply......

Wicked!

I asked Rita who the Tiaras were....

I was wondering about that if The Tiaras were an entity on their own, still could be thou.

I asked Rita who the Tiaras were....

Well Lou said Rita Graham was Rita from Rita & The Tiaras and she has confirmed ..and he says Linda Jones was one of the Tiaras.

I asked Rita who the Tiaras were....

I sent her a mail about Dore and contract etc through her site but haven't heard back. How did you contact her Chalky?

Ady