Kenb

Willie is a fav of mine...so i hope this SJ release does well. Forgive me...i won't kidnap the post entirely but thought readers may find this interesting. Chicago Aug/Sept 1966. The Del-Vettes/Del-Vetts were with 11 musicians (Nate Thomas on piano) at 445 N. Lake Shore recording studio (which at that time was RCA Victor) adding background vocals on some Willie Williams 5 hours and 4 songs recording session, two sides of which became ABC 45-10598 intended a-side “Just Because/It Doesn't Pay”. I don’t think ABC 45-10860 “Have You Ever Been Played For A Fool?/With All Of My Soul” was the other 2 sides since this was recorded at an earlier session. Instead, could it be ABC 11031 (1967/8) I’m Through With You/ Strung Out. Or maybe it was the sides put out on RCA Victor 47-9736 “Just To Be Loved By You/Name It” released at a later date (1969). Producer/arranger Johnny Pate quite often leased sides to other major labels. The Del-Vettes harmonies can most clearly be heard on “It Doesn’t Pay” starting at about 1 minute in and then through to the end on all the ‘It Doesn’t Pay’ lyrics. Willie Williams 1968.

Very sad news.... I have always been of the same mind as Barry Martin's remarks on the vocal similarities of her voice with that of Lorraine Randolph -see sirshambling-http://www.sirshambling.com/artists_2012/R/lorraine_rudolph/index.php The other reasons of my own is i have seen her 'named' both ways on several occasions as far back as 1967. Particularly as featured with The Bob Craig Trio. Lorraine Rudolph grew up in the Russell neighbourhood of Louisville, Ky, and having spent 25 years in Detroit, in her later years she lived in Temple Springs, Md. Two PICTURES- both performing with the Bob Criag Trio at The Hurricane Lounge in 1967. RUDOLPH 1st pic Dec 1967/RANDOLPH 2nd pic Aug 1967. Either way....i love both, if it is indeed two different ladies.

Reissue & Mal....given the title of the thread i don't think either of these three posts show much NS 'brotherly'.

They are not the same person (Just in case you still think they maybe). Gerald was about 6 years older than Sam. He was an accounting Major (school) & attorney. Sam was more into journalism. That's why you see Gerald's name on 'official documents'. It's an interesting story and one i'll write up one day.

@Roburt I've returned to this fine article once again to ask... The Petities- where did you run across their names? I know of Barbara, but i'm at a loss for the Ewing sisters. I have been 'working' on some stuff which encompasses Teek so ( if you are willing to share) any pointers on Pat & Dorothy would be gratefully received. best ken

Big Bubbles - Floyd McVay

Barbara Mercer (Sty-Letts/Sty-Leets) yes...if you listen to b-side “Hello My Darling” Pillar 505, 1962 you’ll hear the lyric line at 32-37 secs in “ Hello my darling this is Barbara calling”.

i thought someone had established that Dorothy Pierce was 'something to do with' HDH? or was that me speculating!

Wigan Casino - A newspaper take on the drug side of the Casino 1978 A scan of a newspaper article from1978 looking at the drug side of the Casino... 'Life and soul of long Wigan Nights' View full article

Before Andy Pebbles joined Piccadilly Radio (about 73/74)he was with Radio Manchester ( or Manchester Radio) and I’m sure he used the phrase (KTF) on more than one occasion on his Sunday show ( which was a Soul spot) on that station.

I got a nice trouser press for next to nothing 20 yrs back 😘

I respect the views...but I can’t see what all the fuss is about. People make mistakes. Some even deliberately “obscure” the truth...cover up’s being a case in point. It’s the way with all history.

I've always thought Davie Gordon's explanation on 45cat.com (Push Push notes) in 2014 summed the mistake up very well.

Page 100, 'Here Comes the Night', Joel Selvin

as versions go...i think it's a pretty good effort and quite like it (not enough to buy it). I guess that's partly down to the lyrics and production which haven't been too messed about with from the original.

I've always assumed Larry Johnson was the same Larry Johnson on Willie Gresham & The Free Food Tickets “Step by Step/I cried Boo”. Willie's brother Jimmy (Jimi) played in Rose Grier's band. It's still a West Coast connection thing going on. [somewhere in Robbk's posts mentioned Rosy Grier]. The Gresham Brothers...now there's a story ( but not helpful to this thread).

@Robbk more intriguing than Henry Dixon perhaps is Colonel Splendid And The Commando's Featuring Lt. Cavendish. Colonel Splendid was in fact Bob Hudson (Emprorer Bob Hudson). Les Crane got him a job as DJ at KEWB. The Commando's were around 40,000 registered members of what Bob decided would be a crazy youth movement. By crazy i mean...he wanted to Straighten out Sunset Blvd and turn into a Bowling Alley, etc). BTW: He was also at KFWB as Beautiful Bob.

always thought Ruby was one of the ladies in this picture ( but haven't been able to substantiate it...yet). Sarah James & The Sanctified Six, also on Gold Token label (L.A. County Fair 1963)-see Pic

This has been on my radar for nearly 10 years. It's a complicated set of connections, which still has 'moving parts missing'. What i can share is: I can tell you that Monster Masters were at 6087 Sunset Blvd. And that it was a John D. Imus (you can find john D. easily on Discogs) Fred Imus and George Russell. George was at 7408 Fountain Ave (as too was Gold Cup Music Company, Gretchen Christopher (who can easily be found on Discogs). Tourist Records was also at 6087 Sunset. Run by Castle Newell & Lewis Finston. Take 6 was at 6565 Sunset. A big building.(see 1966 PIC). The 'moving parts' that i still revisit include-Tank Jernigan,Colonel Splendid (The Emporer DJ), Jimmy Gresham, Sarah & The Sanctified Six...to name just a few. Hope it helps. P.S. Larry Johnson (William L Johnson) is likely the head honcho of Vendo Music pubbery.

Enlighten a numpty like me. Why would you care about the “high price” someone wants to pay. You say you have one, and turned down an £8K offer. I’m intrigued (politely)

Not sure who the photo is...but i think Dossie Terry was/is a man ( not just because of the vocal).

if anyone has a clip ( or where to find the film/theatre production) please post it. https://www2.bfi.org.uk/films-tv-people/4ce2b8dc8c7a8

I’m in tune with both of you (Dave, Richard) on this...obviously in a much smaller endeavour (with Northern Connections).