hi gang,just been listening to the inspirations-no one else can take your place- on youtube,i was listening to the version that is on the breakthrough bootleg,but then i listened to another version on breakthrough,the backing music was the same,but the vocal was different,i always thought that the ultra rare copy was the same record as the boot,but obviously original! so why is there 2 versions with the same backing and group name on the same label?

The original, which I think is one sided, is a totally different take to the reissue., which people say was a re-recording. Both are brilliant in my opinion, I prefer the "remake" myself.

i also prefer the remake,but now ive listened to the other version,that is growing on me,i wonder if i will start to prefer the original version just because its rarer and more exspensive,because if im honest i have been guilty of liking a record just because its expensive...how shallow and stupid is that!

The original, which I think is one sided, is a totally different take to the reissue., which people say was a re-recording. Both are brilliant in my opinion, I prefer the "remake" myself.

Yes, the Original is single sided, plain white label on the flip.

how many copys of the original are known,and are they here in the uk?

HI ALL LIKE BOTH VERSIONS, but like all of you prefer the remake, in truth about how many copies exist in the UK? well I have only seen 1, ever, but a guess would be 10 x 1 sided and that would leave about 5 in the STATES DAVE

Think this has been done before,but my guess is 6 original copies.Dobber,there's an archived thread hidden away on here somewhere,with if i remember correctly,some input from Joey Jefferson on how the Pink came about.

The Pink Breakthrough came via the Mecca/Clee influence,and as you said,most looked on them as boots.

look for the post by Neil Rushton for how they came about.....

cheers lads will check it out!

The 1977 press with different vox isn't a bootleg btw

Technically, the 1977 pink Breakthrough is a legitimate 'tailor-made' cover version. Albeit an extremely close cover, as most of the re-recording shares the same production team, but with Charles Diamond taking the lead instead of Johnny Hendley.

An interesting point of detail, which most people overlook, is that the two records have different titles.

Original version of the song is called 'No One ELSE Can Take Your Place'.

Charles Diamond version is called 'No One Can Take Your Place'.

The 1977 press with different vox isn't a bootleg btw

The 1977 press with different vox isn't a bootleg btw

thank you for that. sometimes unimformed posts or 'guesswork' posts can sometimes muddy the water

Johnny Hendley.

Same as My Baby Came Out Of Nowhere and John and The Weirdest ?

Johnny Hendley.

Same as My Baby Came Out Of Nowhere and John and The Weirdest ?

Yes. And there's the Mutt & Jeff / Sunlovers / Breakthrough connection.

Technically, the 1977 pink Breakthrough is a legitimate 'tailor-made' cover version. Albeit an extremely close cover, as most of the re-recording shares the same production team, but with Charles Diamond taking the lead instead of Johnny Hendley.

An interesting point of detail, which most people overlook, is that the two records have different titles.

Original version of the song is called 'No One ELSE Can Take Your Place'.

Charles Diamond version is called 'No One Can Take Your Place'.

I know they were buddies but that doesn't sound like John Hendley to me.

I know they were buddies but that doesn't sound like John Hendley to me.

They reckon it was John Hendley, having a particularly bad day Pete.

Certainly not as committed vocally as on 'My Baby Came Out Of Nowhere'.

The 'Pink' issue is (IMO) the better take of the two, Dobber.

Don't let all that 'rarity' nonsense play tricks with your hearing.

Sean

haha,raritie and value can sometimes play games with ones hearing,im defo guilty of that,but not all of the time,but truth be known the 70's issue is the one for me!

The original version appeared on 'The Northern Soul Story - volume 4' LP

The original version appeared on 'The Northern Soul Story - volume 4' LP

Also on the Essential Northern Soul Story CD, one of Goldmines first and very best releases

See these previous threads

All I will add is that I subsequently spoke to Charles Perry/Diamond who confirmed that he did go back into the studio, in 77, to do a vocal over the original band track ... therefore my suggestion that it was one of the previously unreleased other male lead versions was incorrect

Andy

i also thought the backing track is exactly the same for both versions,i would have thought that the musicians would struggle to get the same sound twice at different sessions,so i think its different vocals to the same track!