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The Precisions Lp Acetate

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It finished the other day on Ebay, I forgot to watch it end.

Are all the tracks know versions or even know tracks by them.

TIA :D

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I down loaded a few of the clips,Such Misery was a different take and A Dream I know from the Xodiac record but liked Find A Place.

I down loaded a few of the clips,Such Misery was a different take and A Dream I know from the Xodiac record but liked Find A Place.

I played all the unissued tracks at the Capitol Soul Club, Tony.

Think Kitch had the copy from Adey in the end?

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I played all the unissued tracks at the Capitol Soul Club, Tony.

Think Kitch had the copy from Adey in the end?

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That could be why Such Misery didn't sound so new to me ears.

as "dream" is amongst them tunes I take it it was recorded during the period around their last release on drew, when bridges, knight and eaton were doing the producing for them. I liked the "raw" tune, think # 6 or 7 and their "dream" version, not as good as bros of soul, but still good. As they were using the United studio back then it should indeed have been an united acetate instead of audioarts though, shouldnt it ?

Dave, did you also had a copy of this acetate of your own or were you playing Adey`s copy ? was it audioarts or united ?

i thought a dream on zodiac was the creations,or is it the same group?

they were having a cold from sleeping in a air conditioned room the night before they were suppoed to record the tune so they had the bros of soul doing it again under the name of the creations...if I remember the story right.

Adey Pierce's was an Audiodisc 12" album....but hissed badly all the way through. He got a clean CD of it, and cut some dubs for people to play. Unfortunately the person who provided the clean C.D. either owned, or was friendly with the person who owned the rights to the stuff, so promptly did a deal with the contents, and the stuff came out on "Joe Boy" or one of it's associated labels. Adey was not a happy chap, but at the end of the day only owned a lump of metal not the rights to the contents.

Des Parker

as "dream" is amongst them tunes I take it it was recorded during the period around their last release on drew, when bridges, knight and eaton were doing the producing for them. I liked the "raw" tune, think # 6 or 7 and their "dream" version, not as good as bros of soul, but still good. As they were using the United studio back then it should indeed have been an united acetate instead of audioarts though, shouldnt it ?

Dave, did you also had a copy of this acetate of your own or were you playing Adey`s copy ? was it audioarts or united ?

The dream version on the Ebay acetate is female and by Pearl Jones. So is #4 "give me another chance".

i thought a dream on zodiac was the creations,or is it the same group?

"A Dream" by The Creations on Zodiac was actually sung by The Brothers of Soul (Fred Bridges, Bob Knight and Bobby Eaton). I'd love to hear The Precisions singing "A Dream". Can we get a link to an MP3 of it?

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"A Dream" by The Creations on Zodiac was actually sung by The Brothers of Soul (Fred Bridges, Bob Knight and Bobby Eaton). I'd love to hear The Precisions singing "A Dream". Can we get a link to an MP3 of it?

Robb, see my post above yours. If you're referring to "a dream" on both acetates, that song is not sung by Precisions but Pearl Jones.

The dream version on the Ebay acetate is female and by Pearl Jones. So is #4 "give me another chance".

i had a feeling its female, but wasnt sure 100%. where you know from its pearl jones ?

Adey Pierce's was an Audiodisc 12" album....but hissed badly all the way through. He got a clean CD of it, and cut some dubs for people to play. Unfortunately the person who provided the clean C.D. either owned, or was friendly with the person who owned the rights to the stuff, so promptly did a deal with the contents, and the stuff came out on "Joe Boy" or one of it's associated labels. Adey was not a happy chap, but at the end of the day only owned a lump of metal not the rights to the contents.

Des Parker

great info that des! do you remember the title of the cd, is it still available ?

"A Dream" by The Creations on Zodiac was actually sung by The Brothers of Soul (Fred Bridges, Bob Knight and Bobby Eaton). I'd love to hear The Precisions singing "A Dream". Can we get a link to an MP3 of it?

robb, I stated its the bros of soul in a previous post, chalky also posted a link to the tunes via mixcloud :thumbsup:

Pearl Jones was the lead singer of Sidra's Embraceables, and also sung backgrounds at Motown, and for Aretha Franklin. I also seem to remember her having a single-artist 45 release on a small, Detroit label (it was black-was it Diamond Jim?)

i had a feeling its female, but wasnt sure 100%. where you know from its pearl jones ?

It's credited to her on the Sidra/Joe Boy 7". I first thought the version on the acetate is the one they initially credited to Barbara Mercer. But according to Google it's infact Pearl and not Babs.

wasn't there two cd's though, one "official" and one "unofficial"???

I guess you mean the 2 CD's that came out when the Precisions were due to play Prestatyn ....

One was the Joe Boy one, the other was put together by Billy Prince (lead of the group) & Jerry Williams / Swamp Dogg who produced the tracks they cut for Atlantic / Atco.

There were unissued tracks on the Billy Prince sourced CD, master tapes being owned / held by JW.

So unless you class the Joe Boy CD as 'unofficial, don't think either of em fell into that category.

BTW, the track credited to Lou Ragland on the Joe Boy release had nothing to do with Lou (singing wise) -- though he did write the song.

Weren't some of the lead vocals on those tracks provided by the Precision's valet or driver or some similar guy ???

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I guess you mean the 2 CD's that came out when the Precisions were due to play Prestatyn ....

One was the Joe Boy one, the other was put together by Billy Prince (lead of the group) & Jerry Williams / Swamp Dogg who produced the tracks they cut for Atlantic / Atco.

There were unissued tracks on the Billy Prince sourced CD, master tapes being owned / held by JW.

So unless you class the Joe Boy CD as 'unofficial, don't think either of em fell into that category.

BTW, the track credited to Lou Ragland on the Joe Boy release have nothing to do with Lou (singing wise) -- though he did write the song.

Weren't some of the lead vocals on those tracks provided by the Precision's valet or driver or some similar guy ???

Dunno John , was a few years ago, seem to remember a bit of fuss over one or the other?

Pearl Jones was the lead singer of Sidra's Embraceables, and also sung backgrounds at Motown, and for Aretha Franklin. I also seem to remember her having a single-artist 45 release on a small, Detroit label (it was black-was it Diamond Jim?)

Rob,

I have the Pearl Jones single & it's "Please Stay" / "My Man" on W.I.G. (& it's a red label)

ATB, Craig

Dave, did you also had a copy of this acetate of your own or were you playing Adey`s copy ? was it audioarts or united ?

No, Adey was kind enough to let me have a CD of the tracks. As Des pointed out earlier, Adey was badly let down by someone...I wouldn't have been pleased in the slightest if the same thing had happened to me, that's for sure!

I always used an acetate cutter not far from where I used to live in London and would be there when cutting was taking place. As a footnote when Adey turned that acetate up he also got a Precisions', 'Sugar Ain't Sweet' (vinyl not acetate) amongst other bits....the guy has turned up some top discs over the years!

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-RARE-NORTHERN-SOUL-ACETATE-RECORD-LP-Funk-THE-PRECISIONS-Audiodisc-HEAR-/290771543760?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item43b355a6d0

The track line up is the same as the one Adey Pierce once had many years ago.

Makes you wonder if the album was planned to be issued once upon a time, rather than as a reference disc.

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Hi Dave, i got that one and it is the same LP so you could be right..

slighty off topic..i think i mentioned some time ago i have a 7" no label metal acetate of "Instant Heart break" i got from Tim A years ago...which is about 5 rpm slower than the Drew issue...i wonder if this is how it was originally recorded ..and speeded up for the Drew release...play the Drew at -5 ..let me know what you think...Dream Girl is identical Acetate and Drew recording

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