Looking For The Info Behind Two Rare Soul Tracks

Posted January 25, 200619 yr

Hello All,

I'm seeking information on two rare soul classics. I'd appreciate any info you might have on the songs or the artists, as all I have are some .wav files with no additional info. Specifically, I'd love to know the songwriters, the original label, publishing information, anything will help...The tunes are:

Don't Turn Away - Willie McDougal

I Got To Know - Cookie Jackson (I think this one might've been on Okeh originally)

And I'd love to know who these artists were, these tracks show up in many folks' play lists but biographical information has proven difficult!

Thanks so much.

Jordan Valentine

Edited January 25, 200619 yr by MizValentine

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January 25, 200619 yr

Willie McDougal is on Kinard if my memory serves me correctly.

Was played quite a lot ... a good few years back now mind ........ covered up at one time too ....

Chalky's the master of all things soul .... i'm sure he'll be able to help :thumbsup:

January 25, 200619 yr

Willie McDougal is on Kinard if my memory serves me correctly.
Was played quite a lot ... a good few years back now mind ........ covered up at one time too ....
Chalky's the master of all things soul .... i'm sure he'll be able to help

Thank you very kindly! :thumbsup:

January 25, 200619 yr

Willie McDougal is on Kinard if my memory serves me correctly.
Was played quite a lot ... a good few years back now mind ........ covered up at one time too ....
Chalky's the master of all things soul .... i'm sure he'll be able to help

Willie McDougal def. on Kinard - Pat Brady spun it at the Quenns hall, Bradford late 80's / early 90s covered up I think. Copies about £25 / £40???

ATB

Rich

January 25, 200619 yr

Willie McDougal def. on Kinard - Pat Brady spun it at the Quenns hall, Bradford late 80's / early 90s covered up I think. Copies about £25 / £40???

ATB

Rich

I think it's more like £75 - £100 these days.

January 25, 200619 yr

Cookie Jackson "Do You Still Love Me" on Progress

January 25, 200619 yr

I think it's more like £75 - £100 these days.

Blimey... keeping hold o mine then... :thumbsup:

Rich

January 25, 200619 yr

Willie McDougal first covered up as Gene McDaniels. Played by Pat, Carl F and Nigel Parker Queens Hall and other venues at the time. At £25/£40 I'll have ten copies :thumbsup: you'd be looking at least £150 IMO nowadays, wouldn't suirprise me if it went for more, on plenty of folks wants lists

January 25, 200619 yr

Think it was Guy that found the quantity that turned up around '88/'89, not that thats much use now :thumbsup:

Edited January 25, 200619 yr by chalky

January 25, 200619 yr

Think it was Guy that found the quantity that turned up around '88/'89, not that thats much use now

See what i mean ....... the master!!

We've probably been going to niters the same amount of years Chalky ..... WHY ISN'T YOUR BRAIN AS HAGGLED AS MINE

January 25, 200619 yr

wee willie...........I've been looking for a copy for ages and not a sniff !!

January 25, 200619 yr

Excellent information all, thank you!!

Anybody know who wrote either song? (I'd buy them and look at the label, but from what you say it doesn't sound like I'll be getting my hands on a copy of Don't Turn Away anytime soon....!)

January 25, 200619 yr

See what i mean ....... the master!!

We've probably been going to niters the same amount of years Chalky ..... WHY ISN'T YOUR BRAIN AS HAGGLED AS MINE

far from a master Joan :thumbsup: if I get as good as my mate Andy then you can call me a master doubt it though :lol:

as for my brain...it's getting there

see you Saturday

January 25, 200619 yr

Did anyone else pick up a copy of Willy McDougal in '88 in a "Mutual Record Co. Baltimore" striped factory bag? My copy of Monroe Taylor from Soul Bowl years earlier also came in such a sleeve, but I've never seen any other records that did. Is it just a coincidence that both were presented in this way?

January 25, 200619 yr

Excellent information all, thank you!!
Anybody know who wrote either song? (I'd buy them and look at the label, but from what you say it doesn't sound like I'll be getting my hands on a copy of Don't Turn Away anytime soon....!)

Cliff Chambers wrote the Cookie Jackson. Blind Love is the flip. Cookie Jackson even more expensive than the Willie McDougal.

Edited January 25, 200619 yr by chalky

January 25, 200619 yr

Cliff Chambers wrote the Cookie Jackson. Blind Love is the flip. Cookie Jackson even more expensive than the Willie McDougal.

Brilliant! Thank you.. you saved me a really ponderous request with the US Copyright Office.

Are there any other Cookie Jackson tracks anyone could recommend? I think her voice is amazing...

January 25, 200619 yr

Brilliant! Thank you.. you saved me a really ponderous request with the US Copyright Office.
Are there any other Cookie Jackson tracks anyone could recommend? I think her voice is amazing...

Try Love on Cyclone, one on Okeh title escapes me :unsure:

January 25, 200619 yr

Brilliant! Thank you.. you saved me a really ponderous request with the US Copyright Office.
Are there any other Cookie Jackson tracks anyone could recommend? I think her voice is amazing...

Cookie Jackson 'Try love' on both Cyclone and Progress is even better IMO

Used to be around £400, but not sure if still the case.

Try Love on Cyclone, one on Okeh title escapes me

'Good girl gone bad???' and 'Suffer?' ring a bell.

Also one on Uptown but it's pants

January 25, 200619 yr

I'll keep an eye out for those...

I'm a bit short of £400 at the moment, but maybe they've been comped somewhere :unsure:

January 25, 200619 yr

See what i mean ....... the master!!

We've probably been going to niters the same amount of years Chalky ..... WHY ISN'T YOUR BRAIN AS HAGGLED AS MINE

Sorry to go off thread but Joan what was that 70`s thing you played on Saturday night I think you said it was the Expulsions,could be wrong.Uptempo thing.Was great to see you again,you and Lenny were ace!!!!!!

If it`s any help ma brains pretty scrambled too.

best

Andy. :unsure:

January 25, 200619 yr

Cookie Jackson 'Try love' on both Cyclone and Progress is even better IMO

January 25, 200619 yr

Cliff Chambers wrote the Cookie Jackson. Blind Love is the flip. Cookie Jackson even more expensive than the Willie McDougal.

January 25, 200619 yr

Nearly forgot 'Didn't lose a doggone thing' on Press.

Great R&B tune.

Got another tune by an artist called Cookie Jackson on Reena but can't be same artist cus it's really bad Country and Western (so bad even I don't like it :unsure: )

January 25, 200619 yr

Nearly forgot 'Didn't lose a doggone thing' on Press.

Great R&B tune.

Got another tune by an artist called Cookie Jackson on Reena but can't be same artist cus it's really bad Country and Western (so bad even I don't like it )

must be bad then

sorry couldn't resist that one mate

January 25, 200619 yr

Cliff Chambers wrote the Cookie Jackson.

Cliff Chambers was Cookie Scott's cousin. For those of you with an open mind towards soul music, check out Cliff's highly unorthodox but ever so lovely tune "Just For You" on Kent. :unsure:

Edited January 25, 200619 yr by Sebastian

January 25, 200619 yr

must be bad then

sorry couldn't resist that one mate

Fully expected it mate - nearly added 'No comments required from Chalky' but kinda knew you would anyway!

January 25, 200619 yr

Sorry to go off thread but Joan what was that 70`s thing you played on Saturday night I think you said it was the Expulsions,could be wrong.Uptempo thing.Was great to see you again,you and Lenny were ace!!!!!!

If it`s any help ma brains pretty scrambled too.

best

Andy.

Hey fella ..... i think me and Lenny should have been the expulsions!!

Was so top to see you on Saturday ..... it really was ...

nearly forgot ..... the record .... it was the EXPORTATIONS - I WANT YOU - VIR RO

January 25, 200619 yr

Fully expected it mate - nearly added 'No comments required from Chalky' but kinda knew you would anyway!

January 25, 200619 yr

also cookie jackson, on uptown records--" uptown jerk" b/w "(i'm gonna) go shout it on the mountain" (700) uptown's 1st. release and "find me a lover" b/w "love brings pain" (714)

January 25, 200619 yr

Think it was Guy that found the quantity that turned up around '88/'89, not that thats much use now

Tony Diamond-don't turn away-Blue Rock?

January 25, 200619 yr

'Try Love' is a great track!! I can hear even more of the fire in her voice than on I Got To Know.

That clip may be the hilight of my afternoon here... :unsure:

January 25, 200619 yr

also cookie jackson, on uptown records--" uptown jerk" b/w "(i'm gonna) go shout it on the mountain" (700) uptown's 1st. release and "find me a lover" b/w "love brings pain" (714)

Is that you Mr Ferguson? :unsure:

Heard you were sniffing around on here

'Uptown jerk' is the crap one I seem to remember - is the other one on Uptown any good?

Regards

Mace.

January 25, 200619 yr

'Try Love' is a great track!! I can hear even more of the fire in her voice than on I Got To Know.
That clip may be the hilight of my afternoon here...

Some other great tunes in that style -

Mabel King 'Go back home young fella' (Amy)

Patience Valentine ' If you don't come' (Sar)

Reatha Resse 'Only lies' (Dot)

Mary Jonshon 'These tears' (Foxy or Queen)

Top notch R&B - but Northern Soul to those that don't like R&B

January 25, 200619 yr

Some other great tunes in that style -

Mabel King 'Go back home young fella' (Amy)

Patience Valentine ' If you don't come' (Sar)

Reatha Resse 'Only lies' (Dot)

Mary Jonshon 'These tears' (Foxy or Queen)

Top notch R&B - but Northern Soul to those that don't like R&B

HI Mace

only got two of those you list

Sold the other two as oldies

January 25, 200619 yr

HI Mace only got two of those you list Sold the other two as oldies

Presumably Reatha and Patience were the ones you sold.

Oldies R&B

Have you heard another track by Mabel King on Amy - saw one the other day, but not sure what it's like?

January 25, 200619 yr

Cookie Jackson - Need Of Love - Kris

Not a bad little ditty.... in a Soulful R&B styleeee.

January 25, 200619 yr

Some other great tunes in that style -

Mabel King 'Go back home young fella' (Amy)

Patience Valentine ' If you don't come' (Sar)

Reatha Resse 'Only lies' (Dot)

Mary Jonshon 'These tears' (Foxy or Queen)

Top notch R&B - but Northern Soul to those that don't like R&B

Very cool, I'll keep an eye out for those..

I love that style, whatever you call it!

January 25, 200619 yr

Presumably Reatha and Patience were the ones you sold.

Oldies R&B

Have you heard another track by Mabel King on Amy - saw one the other day, but not sure what it's like?

Hi Mace ,will dig the tune out