How, Wow

[Quinvy]

Another example of the most wanted 45's fetching nearly double the price guide price.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301295927652?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

 

[Pete S]

Ubelievable.  Great as this record is - and it is truly brilliant - I can't believe it sells for more than £500, it's not 'that' rare.  Was a regular £100 job in the 90's

[Andrea Ko]

I love "how" though... what about this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rarest-of-the-Rare-Northern-Soul-Paulette-Love-You-Babe-on-Contact-Label-/111456682296?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:IT:3160#ht_253wt_1363

[Ted Massey]

don't think it was that much Pete I paid a tenner in the late 80's

[Quinvy]

It's one of those that everyone wants to own, but nobody wants to sell. Detroit as well, so even more collectors wanting it. 

[eddiep]

Another example of the most wanted 45's fetching nearly double the price guide price.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301295927652?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

 

 

 

Just goes to show "how" wrong price guides can be eh!   

[Guest]

I love "how" though... what about this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rarest-of-the-Rare-Northern-Soul-Paulette-Love-You-Babe-on-Contact-Label-/111456682296?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:IT:3160#ht_253wt_1363

Has the backing track been used on another 45?

I know the tune very well from 40 odd years ago but I can`t recall the vocals....and I would think I should as the vocals are dreadful....sounds like a Ska/Reggae singist. 

Edited September 8, 2014 by Guest

[Nick Soule]

It's nice to be on the "I already have that" side versus the 10th highest bidder that can't believe how much it went for side for once.

 

I feel like there were a few on here in the last couple of years for £800. 

[Andrea Ko]

Has the backing track been used on another 45?

I know the tune very well from 40 odd years ago but I can`t recall the vocals....and I would think I should as the vocals are dreadful. 

I don't know. I don't particularly like this record. It's just the price that stroke me

[Quinvy]

OK so not everyone want's to own it     

[Soulhawk]

great record

 

very murky production

 

luv that drum logo 

[Guest]

"HOW" is an awesome record and without doubt the bands best cut! They don`t come much more atmospheric than that......on a par with September Jones I`m Coming Home. 

[Mrtag]

I wish mine went for twice the value!!

[Dave Pinch]

How is way better than that paulette 45.. Maybe not as rare but..

[purist]

If Ive done my sums right this adds up to over £1705, but that using Ebays exchange rates, and today they've dropped so they just said on the news ( due to the uncertainty of the Scotland vote)

 

(£2 Soul Bowl list b.i.t.d. -  I nearly sent it back 'cause it had a small label damage, glad I kept it now  )

Edited September 8, 2014 by purist

[Guest]

How is way better than that paulette 45.. Maybe not as rare but..

If ever there was a record totally ruined by the singer!

[Pete S]

If ever there was a record totally ruined by the singer!

 

What record are we talking about, I've lost the thread

[Mrtag]

That would be Paulette Pete!

[Pete S]

That would be Paulette Pete!

 

Yes but what is it called

[Guest]

That`s correct!

[Guest]

Yes but what is it called

Love you babe

[Mrtag]

Love You Babe!!     Steady on Pete That's the title!! 

Edited September 8, 2014 by mrtag

[Guest]

I love "how" though... what about this? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rarest-of-the-Rare-Northern-Soul-Paulette-Love-You-Babe-on-Contact-Label-/111456682296?ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:IT:3160#ht_253wt_1363

This one Pete

[Mrtag]

Love you babe

 

 Snap Steve!!

[Mrtag]

It's nice to be on the "I already have that" side versus the 10th highest bidder that can't believe how much it went for side for once.

 

I feel like there were a few on here in the last couple of years for £800. 

 

That's about what it should be!!

[Pete S]

That Paulette record is f&cking terrible, it might as well be by Lulu it's that poppy - someone paid $2000 for it?

[Andrea Ko]

That Paulette record is f&cking terrible, it might as well be by Lulu it's that poppy - someone paid $2000 for it?

It's the starting price... and it went for $1500 or more in the past...

I wasn't so drastic but it's more or less what i meant

[Chalky]

I just don't see the point comparing How and Paulette?.   How is ridiculously over priced Paulette is far far rarer, whether someone hates it or not is irrelevant, plenty like it.

Edited September 8, 2014 by chalky

[KevH]

Is this a case of the flip getting popular ,as folks are looking for "new" spins.?

[Chalky]

It's the starting price... and it went for $1500 or more in the past...

I wasn't so drastic but it's more or less what i meant

The last Paulette on the open market if I remember rightly went for £1200.  It has regularly, well when it has come up for sale which isn't too often fetched £800 plus which isn't surprising really considering it is a popular spin (just not on soul source), and it is rare.

Edited September 8, 2014 by chalky

[Dave Pinch]

That Paulette record is f&cking terrible, it might as well be by Lulu it's that poppy - someone paid $2000 for it?

That's what I mean pete..backings not bad..but the vocal is woeful... Sounds ok in a club when off your head I should imagine... But in the house...yikes... Not sure if it's got a bid in yet.. But it may well sell

[Andrea Ko]

The last Paulette on the open market if I remember rightly went for £1200.  It has regularly, well when it has come up for sale which isn't too often fetched £800 plus which isn't surprising really considering it is a popular spin (just not on soul source), and it is rare.

Well, my point was I would rather spend £1,332.68 for the masqueraders although the record is not that rare than the £ 800 for paulette. Just my opinion... the price is made by how much I'm willing to pay for it rather than how rare. But I know that the others don't reason like that

 

[Quinvy]

I love them both. Paulette may not have a great voice, but the backing is a superb dance track, and it just works when played out. Perfect dance music. I think it will sell.

Yum Yums demo went for $2200 recently.

How is just total class.

[Frankie Crocker]

'How' was a thousand pound sound before eBay took over. Prices dropped for a few years as odd copies surfaced. Now everyone wants this great track and supplies have dried up, the price has rocketed again. Expect hot competition for future copies, especially if they're in good shape as many are stained or have ring- wear

[Premium Stuff]

'How' was a thousand pound sound before eBay took over. Prices dropped for a few years as odd copies surfaced. Now everyone wants this great track and supplies have dried up, the price has rocketed again. Expect hot competition for future copies, especially if they're in good shape as many are stained or have ring- wear

 

Totally agree.

 

That copy looked pretty good - they don't turn up like that very often.

 

My copy is similar condition and I have never had the chance to buy another one in that condition and at a realistic price since I got it. That was 15 years ago.

 

Plus, the other side is finally, finally getting recognition - it's ace too   

 

Cheers

 

Richard

Edited September 8, 2014 by Premium Stuff

[Nick Soule]

Surprising to see the Al Williams that the same seller had only go $200 more than the Masqueraders record.

[Chalky]

"How" wasn't a 1000 pound sound before ebay, I and others by the look of this topic can remember it for a lot less, you must have been looking in the wrong places.

[Pete S]

"How" wasn't a 1000 pound sound before ebay, I and others by the look of this topic can remember it for a lot less, you must have been looking in the wrong places.

 

You're right Chalky, it can't be more than ten years ago that I sold my own copy for £250 or £300.

As for the Yum Yums demo - I sold one in 2009 for £500, it's worth three times that now?

[Mrtag]

Surprising to see the Al Williams that the same seller had only go $200 more than the Masqueraders record.

 

Looks like someone got a bargain!!

[Davenpete]

That Paulette record is f&cking terrible, it might as well be by Lulu it's that poppy - someone paid $2000 for it?

Got my vote on that - how could you possibly compare the staggeringly brilliant Masqueraders with that piece of third rate clippy cloopy shite?

Dx

[Chalky]

You're right Chalky, it can't be more than ten years ago that I sold my own copy for £250 or £300.

As for the Yum Yums demo - I sold one in 2009 for £500, it's worth three times that now?

 

I can remember it reaching the dizzy prices of £400/£500 and people saying what they are saying now.

 

But Dave highlighted the crazy world of the price of Northern Soul records with the price of the Al Williams in comparison to The Masqueraders.

Edited September 9, 2014 by chalky

[Johnmcc]

Don't forget to add £400 for postage and tax/duty.

[Frankie Crocker]

"How" wasn't a 1000 pound sound before ebay, I and others by the look of this topic can remember it for a lot less, you must have been looking in the wrong places.

Manship edition 3 valued 'How' at £1,000 in 2004, presumably because that was what it sold for perhaps?

[Chalky]

Manship edition 3 valued 'How' at £1,000 in 2004, presumably because that was what it sold for perhaps?

 

 

Tim Brown 1st "Guide" 2004 valued at £300 which IMO at that time was nearer the price it was selling for.  I can certainly remember it for around that price without the need to resort to a guide.  Pete Smith commenting on the fact he sold it around then for something nearer Tim's price.....before ebay it was a lot less as well.

[Premium Stuff]

I have a note here on an Excel spreadsheet saying Pete sold one in November 2000 for £250, which I must have noted down at the time.

 

Cheers

 

Richard

[Frankie Crocker]

Tim Brown 1st "Guide" 2004 valued at £300 which IMO at that time was nearer the price it was selling for.  I can certainly remember it for around that price without the need to resort to a guide.  Pete Smith commenting on the fact he sold it around then for something nearer Tim's price.....before ebay it was a lot less as well.

Did anyone take note of Tim's guide? I bought the first two, but they were so inferior to Manship's guides, I hardly ever opened them. Sure, the Masqueraders cost less a decade or two ago, but didn't all records. The astonishing thing is that the top-end sounds are now going for near geometric progression prices. Can't even remember what I paid for mine at Keele in the 1990's, maybe £100, but it was the first time I had a sales- box specimen in my hands and it was going home with me regardless of the price. Al Williams had WOL which would have deterred bidders. What a time this is to be seeing two La Beat records of such calibre up for sale in the same list.

[Premium Stuff]

Did anyone take note of Tim's guide? I bought the first two, but they were so inferior to Manship's guides, I hardly ever opened them. Sure, the Masqueraders cost less a decade or two ago, but didn't all records. The astonishing thing is that the top-end sounds are now going for near geometric progression prices. Can't even remember what I paid for mine at Keele in the 1990's, maybe £100, but it was the first time I had a sales- box specimen in my hands and it was going home with me regardless of the price. Al Williams had WOL which would have deterred bidders. What a time this is to be seeing two La Beat records of such calibre up for sale in the same list.

 

Maybe there's a Lester Tipton on the way 

[Pete S]

I have a note here on an Excel spreadsheet saying Pete sold one in November 2000 for £250, which I must have noted down at the time.

 

Cheers

 

Richard

 

You know stuff about me that I don't know myself!  Weird...

[Chalky]

So now you agree it wasn't a 1k record pre ebay, not even ten years ago      as for price guides, there are some who take no notice of any of them as prices differ just about everywhere.  A guide price doesn't reflect demand or falling demand, quantity turning up and other reasons so by all accounts can be considered out of date almost immediately.

 

I don't disagree with you regarding the price of top end sounds, they are beyond reason and logic many of them and are enough to turn many away from that side of the market.  Who pays these prices and what is their thinking, is it a serious collector, local DJ's looking for a bigger stage or some looking at these as an investment, pension pot?

[Guest]

Well, most of the collectors over here already have it, so maybe it didn't go to Japan...for once!

(Bet it was one of those Mad Aussies!  )