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I know not too many have come onto the market, but how rare is this record, in reality  ; any one know what the standard press was - presume they are out their somewhere ?

Perhaps somewhat inferior but if it's good enough for Butch then probably good enough for most of us. Me, I'd like a copy in the collection.

As I said..I had the Milton James and really liked it..had to be tempted really hard to let it go..hence the Walter and The Admerations

 

In fact I did clap eyes on the Milton James again when I was DJing in Valencia...it was on Marc Forrest's turntable!!!

Edited April 30, 201510 yr by john parker

has Milton James been booted?

They'd better not, we own it. Who was that company that pressed Little Johnny Hamilton Keep On Moving on a UK 45? Did they do it?

They'd better not, we own it. Who was that company that pressed Little Johnny Hamilton Keep On Moving on a UK 45? Did they do it?

 

Joe Boy - they also did a double CD of Dore stuff so presumably they licensed them

Edited April 30, 201510 yr by Pete S

Joe Boy - they also did a double CD of Dore stuff so presumably they licensed them

They did Pete. Did they do Milton James and is LJH Keep On Moving still around?

has Milton James been booted?

Not that I know of, but it has had several Cd releases.

As I said..I had the Milton James and really liked it..had to be tempted really hard to let it go..hence the Walter and The Admerations

 

In fact I did clap eyes on the Milton James again when I was DJing in Valencia...it was on Marc Forrest's turntable!!!

That was the same copy John.   

I know not too many have come onto the market, but how rare is this record, in reality  ; any one know what the standard press was - presume they are out their somewhere ?

Bloody rare, and all the copies I have seen [3] have been in VG or worse condition.

They did Pete. Did they do Milton James and is LJH Keep On Moving still around?

 

No they did Rita, Johnny Hamilton, Puffs, er...

That was the same copy John.   

Yes I know

I know not too many have come onto the market, but how rare is this record, in reality  ; any one know what the standard press was - presume they are out their somewhere ?

I know of 5 copies in collections within 10 miles of my house! 

 

Average that over the UK and you see that it is not extremely rare.  It's just great and not many would sell it!

I know of 5 copies in collections within 10 miles of my house! 

 

Average that over the UK and you see that it is not extremely rare.  It's just great and not many would sell it!

I presume we are talking about Rita & Tiaras again mate? 

Perhaps Taboo, but weren't it the worst seller on UK Destiny (800 copies?) when issued in the UK for the first time.

R E Gards TOTP

As I said..I had the Milton James and really liked it..had to be tempted really hard to let it go..hence the Walter and The Admerations

 

In fact I did clap eyes on the Milton James again when I was DJing in Valencia...it was on Marc Forrest's turntable!!!

I'd have gone for Walter and the Admerations too, quality over rarity plus two decent sides.

Did the seller of this Rita & the tiaras 45 once describe 60s soul fans/buyers as "Bottom-feeders" in an interview a few years ago, ????

I'd have gone for Walter and the Admerations too, quality over rarity plus two decent sides.

I know it killed me to part with it, but it was the only thing that John would trade so I had no choice.

I'd have gone for Walter and the Admerations too, quality over rarity plus two decent sides.

Frank, Walter got hammered to death, thats why we seldom hear it. You must have heard Butch play MJ at 100 club,

aaw, it's awesome mate

Quick retract your Rita bids from eBay another copy just gone on another auction site.

Frank, Walter got hammered to death, thats why we seldom hear it. You must have heard Butch play MJ at 100 club,

aaw, it's awesome mate

Been playing the Life Of tears side which was in fact the first side to be played at The Central..."Right for now" as they say  

You ought to have been at Sheridens Benny when Butch stuck it on, the crowd gasped.

Whilst on the Dore subject, has the Superbs "Wind in my Sail's" had a mention on here?.... quality

 

No thank god.!

I presume we are talking about Rita & Tiaras again mate? 

I agree its not dog rare, but as my wife often says................. "try finding one".  and I nearly let mine go for $3000 last month

No thank god.!

Now you are talking rarity over quality...dire record (Superbs that is)

Perhaps Taboo, but weren't it the worst seller on UK Destiny (800 copies?) when issued in the UK for the first time.

R E Gards TOTP

 

I doubt that very much, did you see some of the other stuff they put out?

Miss Dee Dee

John Drevars (Nothing to do with the real John Drevars)

John Leach

i see tim brown has listed a rita & tiaras on his auction,along with some other nice pieces!

Now you are talking rarity over quality...dire record (Superbs that is)

Well at least that black&red Dore it's on is the best of all Soul labels,

No thank god.!

Maybe not so good through utube Kev but venue wise it's ace

a friend of mine here in Berlin has a live recording (tape) of famous LA radio discjockey Jim Pruter playing this in his show back in 1967 introducing it as an great oldie...being so popular with the Lations down in LA..."Gone With The Wind" that is and not the flipside...wow.

 

Must have sold hundreds if not thousands at a guess if it was classed as a popular oldie back then already. At a guess there are still copies left and yet to surface from Latino households in and around East LA...

a friend of mine here in Berlin has a live recording (tape) of famous LA radio discjockey Jim Pruter playing this in his show back in 1967 introducing it as an great oldie...being so popular with the Lations down in LA..."Gone With The Wind" that is and not the flipside...wow.

 

Must have sold hundreds if not thousands at a guess if it was classed as a popular oldie back then already. At a guess there are still copies left and yet to surface from Latino households in and around East LA...

If it was a local hit though Marc, you can bet a lot will have been trashed.

Now you are talking rarity over quality...dire record (Superbs that is)

Can't decide if it's better or worse than Milton James?maybe the clue is in the" rare o meter ", being rare because someone obviously decided to trash em to save people's ears ;)

Can't decide if it's better or worse than Milton James?maybe the clue is in the" rare o meter ", being rare because someone obviously decided to trash em to save people's ears ;)

I think it's a great tune, good looking label! Only downside is it's £1,000+

The label looks nice but an expensive bit of artwork to hang on the wall...would prefer a Russell-Flint Print..about the same price

The label looks nice but an expensive bit of artwork to hang on the wall...would prefer a Russell-Flint Print..about the same price

Ok John, it's rubbish, it's crap, not worth £2..... I still want one though

Just being a bit tongue in cheek

 

Its OK..Just not to my taste

Frank, Walter got hammered to death, thats why we seldom hear it. You must have heard Butch play MJ at 100 club,

aaw, it's awesome mate

You're right, Walter got plenty of spins. It was Mark's ace in the hole record late 80's and early 90's when I got back into Allnighters and was one of the records that really hooked me. I was at the 100 Club when he spun Milton first, second, third etc and he really had to work hard to break it. If I recall, once he called it 'Indian Music' and another time he said something like I hope you dance to this 'cos it cost a ******* lot of money. 

Maybe not so good through utube Kev but venue wise it's ace

 

Neil mi duck,i've heard it out plenty,nice xover but for me lacks the power.

Well, i predicted Rita would reach 4.5k..... it's now edged past that figure... with a day or 2 to go

Sold mine on here replying to Wants for £ 2.5k about 18 months ago, thought that was top dollar at the time, apparently not....Quality tunes just keep rising

Sorry Beji, but it's one of the best allnighter records of all time. The atmosphere when played at a packed club in the early hours is something to behold. Fan friggin tastic. Just the first three notes would have everyone rushing for the dance floor.

Shivers down the spine just remembering it.

Agree with that, it's a complete beast, rare or not. I'd 100% play it and dance to it if it was a £50 record.

think I tried to buy yours Quinvy...in some distant past when I had money

Agree with that, it's a complete beast, rare or not. I'd 100% play it and dance to it if it was a £50 record.

think I tried to buy yours Quinvy...in some distant past when I had money

Yes you did I remember.

I doubt that very much, did you see some of the other stuff they put out?

Miss Dee Dee

John Drevars (Nothing to do with the real John Drevars)

John Leach

Exactly' That's my point!

Edited May 1, 201510 yr by theothertosspot

Guessing there's only me that doesn't like it then 

Guessing there's only me that doesn't like it then 

Thank goodness, thought I was only one, a sit down and rest record.

Been playing the Life Of tears side which was in fact the first side to be played at The Central..."Right for now" as they say  

 

Life of Tears, bobbins (sorry John). Thank God the record has two sides, MoM awesome!

Edited May 2, 201510 yr by jumpinjoan

On topic, Rita is great, always loved it

Edited May 2, 201510 yr by jumpinjoan

The sound file on the TB copy sounds like it has groove wear. I'd take Jimmy Bo Horn (sic) instead.

i see tim brown has listed a rita & tiaras on his auction,along with some other nice pieces!

Edited May 2, 201510 yr by George G

That's really interesting - although here in the US radio play did not mean the record sold. It's possible that the low riders were just hearing it on the radio and asking it to be played for dedications. I've seen radio charts that have now rare records charting high locally, but still only handfuls of copies around. People calling/requesting does not necessarily equal sales.

a friend of mine here in Berlin has a live recording (tape) of famous LA radio discjockey Jim Pruter playing this in his show back in 1967 introducing it as an great oldie...being so popular with the Lations down in LA..."Gone With The Wind" that is and not the flipside...wow.

 

Must have sold hundreds if not thousands at a guess if it was classed as a popular oldie back then already. At a guess there are still copies left and yet to surface from Latino households in and around East LA...

Edited May 2, 201510 yr by George G

Life of Tears, bobbins (sorry John). Thank God the record has two sides, MoM awesome!

 

 

MOM is far superior, why it was never flipped at Casino/Central I'm not sure as it would have gone down a storm even then.

 

MOM and Rita both superior to Milton James as well.

Edited May 2, 201510 yr by chalky

Life of Tears, bobbins (sorry John). Thank God the record has two sides, MoM awesome!

Is that better or worse than your "pants" grading Joan?   

Is that better or worse than your "pants" grading Joan?   

 

 

Pants is worse lol