Guest Stuart T Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 So much for you being nice Stuart changed my avatar now as im getting stick off of millwall fans BTW do you need any pegs or lucky heather, PM your address if you do My neighbour needs his drive done, if you're interested let me know. That horse is freaky, still I guess it doesn't need four legs to pull a caravan. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Simon Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 I would agree if only i knew what a mod was nowadays, only said that so we were`nt the same Definition of Mod, now there's a tricky one, almost impossible to define, more of an instinct/feeling imo. Certain obvious criteria though, Sharp dresser, Tamla, Ska, Rythm & Blues, Allnighters... Problem is the word Mod means Modernist & there's nothing modern about Tamla, 6ts style dressing etc. but as i said it's more of an instinct thing, to me Imac's are Mod & some other recent design stuff much more Mod than wearing a parka with The Who written on the back but this is just my definition i'm sure someone will shoot this down in flames. I've seen people on myspace etc. who think Kasabian are Mod, The Beatles are Mod etc. Simon Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 My neighbour needs his drive done, if you're interested let me know. That horse is freaky, still I guess it doesn't need four legs to pull a caravan. Careful or i will bring all my family up and park at the end of your road and dump all our rubbish in your local tesco Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 (edited) I would agree if only i knew what a mod was nowadays, only said that so we were`nt the same As I said in an earlier post, there are many different aspects to the mod scene. There are mods who love the 79 revival / live bands side of things, and then there are mods that prefer the original 60s R&B, Soul, Jazz etc. (and indeed some who love it all!) The revivalists have always sat more comfortably with the scooter rallies because they enjoy the music policy and the live bands that come with it. Those more into the 60s stuff generally don't, so they go to Mod events, so unless you knew these guys or have attended their events you wouldn't know or understand their scene. It would be like saying all scooterists should attend biker rallies cus they all ride on 2 wheels...the two scenes are miles apart with only the one connection. People like to mix with their own kind in an enviroment where they feel comfortable and enjoy the music policy on offer....it doesn't make it right or wrong, it doesn't make a mod into 60s music only a snob, and it doesn't make a scooterist a thug. Most mods started off attending scooter rallies because of their love of scooters, after a certain amount of grief from certain elements of the scooter scene and lack of the type of music they wanted to hear, a lot moved away and did their own thing....that's it...in a nutshell. Edited January 3, 2007 by Mace Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Definition of Mod, now there's a tricky one, almost impossible to define, more of an instinct/feeling imo. Certain obvious criteria though, Sharp dresser, Tamla, Ska, Rythm & Blues, Allnighters... Problem is the word Mod means Modernist & there's nothing modern about Tamla, 6ts style dressing etc. but as i said it's more of an instinct thing, to me Imac's are Mod & some other recent design stuff much more Mod than wearing a parka with The Who written on the back but this is just my definition i'm sure someone will shoot this down in flames. I've seen people on myspace etc. who think Kasabian are Mod, The Beatles are Mod etc. Simon here come the flames, its a tough one like you say but are the modernists more Moddy if so could you tell the parka mods and a good few of my mates who wouldnt be seen dead in a parka that they aint mods. and im not talking about the type who like the beatles kasabian etc, the ones who were fighting at the seasides in the sixties etc. The original modernists were nothing like the mods of the sixties were they. did the mods not grow up on the kinks, the who, small faces etc. We have a club meeting on Sunday and i will ask a few of them from the sixties and a few from the mod reveval time of the 70s/80s thier take on it as im getting quite intruiged what really is a mod. Im far to young to know Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 You might be better off visiting either of the 2 site links below. Post up the question on both sites and you will get very different answers.. https://www.modculture.co.uk https://www.modrevival.net/ Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Simon Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 here come the flames, its a tough one like you say but are the modernists more Moddy if so could you tell the parka mods and a good few of my mates who wouldnt be seen dead in a parka that they aint mods. and im not talking about the type who like the beatles kasabian etc, the ones who were fighting at the seasides in the sixties etc. The original modernists were nothing like the mods of the sixties were they. did the mods not grow up on the kinks, the who, small faces etc. We have a club meeting on Sunday and i will ask a few of them from the sixties and a few from the mod reveval time of the 70s/80s thier take on it as im getting quite intruiged what really is a mod. Im far to young to know Hi Bearsy, I wouldn't tell anyone they're not a Mod, i'm personally not that bothered what people think they are but i know instinctively when someone is a proper Mod. They will looked sussed without their look looking forced, i've seen plenty of people desperately wanting to be seen as a Mod but proper Mods are subtle. Nothing wrong with wearing a proper original parka, they look good & keep your suit/attire clean when you're on yer Lambretta/Vespa at least that's why they were originally worn, twas later on that people starting adorning them with pop art. Bit like NS though people will always disagree on this subject. Simon Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Careful or i will bring all my family up and park at the end of your road and dump all our rubbish in your local tesco Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Hi Bearsy, I wouldn't tell anyone they're not a Mod, i'm personally not that bothered what people think they are but i know instinctively when someone is a proper Mod. They will looked sussed without their look looking forced, i've seen plenty of people desperately wanting to be seen as a Mod but proper Mods are subtle. Nothing wrong with wearing a proper original parka, they look good & keep your suit/attire clean when you're on yer Lambretta/Vespa at least that's why they were originally worn, twas later on that people starting adorning them with pop art. Bit like NS though people will always disagree on this subject. Simon Simon i think i know what a mod is now but im still confused as it easy to talk about one type but be of the impression you may be talking about another tupe of mod, is it me or are there about 3 or so different style of Mods, i just read one of them links Mace just put up and its quite interesting and explains what the modernist was about and how the mods and media kind of latched onto thier sort of scene and evolved it with the commercialism and changed what they were really about. the modernists kind of think they were the elite mods and the rest just kind of happened from them, bands and followers etc. but they kept thier style and music and roots. Bloody confusing but if that is the case i only see a couple of elite mods like them on scootering if any but are they still happy to call themselves mods and be classed in the same catergorey as mods on scooters rally goers if you know what i mean. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Gert Mark Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Hi Bearsy, I wouldn't tell anyone they're not a Mod, i'm personally not that bothered what people think they are but i know instinctively when someone is a proper Mod. They will looked sussed without their look looking forced, i've seen plenty of people desperately wanting to be seen as a Mod but proper Mods are subtle. Nothing wrong with wearing a proper original parka, they look good & keep your suit/attire clean when you're on yer Lambretta/Vespa at least that's why they were originally worn, twas later on that people starting adorning them with pop art. Bit like NS though people will always disagree on this subject. Simon Thats the key to the whole thing isnt it? Wearing 6ts style clobber is just a uniform and clearly forced, im not nor ever have been a mod but have always been interested in the whole mod thing as i have always loved all strands of youth culture. My question is why do people on the whole leave their youthful way of life behind as they grow up yet mods seem, at least compared to other scenes, to keep their faith? Surely the level of commitment to wearing a sharp suit and subtle accessories needs to be quite high, ok not as high as a 45 yr old with a green mohawk, but still an extra effort that people of this age could do without,so why do mods keep at it? Please dont give me that "its not what we do its who we are" style of answer cos i really am interested. Mark the soulful punk. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Simon Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Simon i think i know what a mod is now but im still confused as it easy to talk about one type but be of the impression you may be talking about another tupe of mod, is it me or are there about 3 or so different style of Mods, i just read one of them links Mace just put up and its quite interesting and explains what the modernist was about and how the mods and media kind of latched onto thier sort of scene and evolved it with the commercialism and changed what they were really about. the modernists kind of think they were the elite mods and the rest just kind of happened from them, bands and followers etc. but they kept thier style and music and roots. Bloody confusing but if that is the case i only see a couple of elite mods like them on scootering if any but are they still happy to call themselves mods and be classed in the same catergorey as mods on scooters rally goers if you know what i mean. Yep, i'll go along with that link, pretty much where i'm coming from, original Mods were into Jazz etc. then the whole Mod thing became commercialised & got tainted. A bit like original skinheads were into black culture, Ska etc. then the whole thing got hijacked by boneheads & Fascists. I s'pose the longer this scene goes on the more it's likely to get watered down as to where we are now where some of the up & coming generation think Oasis is Mod & Tamla/Ska/Jazz etc. isn't. Simon Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 (edited) Simon i think i know what a mod is now but im still confused as it easy to talk about one type but be of the impression you may be talking about another tupe of mod, is it me or are there about 3 or so different style of Mods, i just read one of them links Mace just put up and its quite interesting and explains what the modernist was about and how the mods and media kind of latched onto thier sort of scene and evolved it with the commercialism and changed what they were really about. the modernists kind of think they were the elite mods and the rest just kind of happened from them, bands and followers etc. but they kept thier style and music and roots. Bloody confusing but if that is the case i only see a couple of elite mods like them on scootering if any but are they still happy to call themselves mods and be classed in the same catergorey as mods on scooters rally goers if you know what i mean. If I recall the uba cool mods would not consider themselves as being classed as 'mods'. Their preference of tag (if any) was perhaps 'stylists'. Run of the mill mods were known as 'moddy boys'. Also remember the transition (for some) from suits to army green's, flying jackets and monkey boots. This could be seen as simply a change in style or by osmosis a mod turning into a scooter boy. It depends on your point of view. Then there were 'psycho/scooter billies' with the mohicans, drinking pints of vomit etc. Isle of Wight 1984 springs to mind for many of these types and a classic line from a scouse soulie there; “It's all fookin poonks”! Lastly scooter skins were perhaps few and far between, but we had a mod mate from Harlow (Andy Ball) who decided one week to become a scooter skin. Removing all the chrome from his scooter, having his head shaved and dressing in denims with moccasins etc. This lasted for about a fortnight until I recall him uttering the immortal line “I'm no longer a scooter skin, I'm just a hard mod”! Happy days ... Edited January 3, 2007 by Simsy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Run of the mill mods were known as 'moddy boys'. 'kin ell Simsy...why don't you add more confusion to the mix and mention 'tickets' and 'numbers' etc etc... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 'kin ell Simsy...why don't you add more confusion to the mix and mention 'tickets' and 'numbers' etc etc... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Stevie T Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Bit nervous as this is my first post,even if it is a reply to someone else's original message. I have no connection at all with either the mods or scooterists. Mine is more a general comment.Having loved the music ,and danced to it,for over 37 years I'm finding the elitism a little bit hard to swallow. I've always told newcomers and outiders how friendly the Northern Soulies are but there seems to be quite a bit of backbiting in the past 6 months at least.It's a bit sad to hear that mods and scooterists are just the same.The only encouraging sign is that there are lots of younger folk attending soul nites and dancing to the music. Finally can I just say that life is too short and we should just go out,listen and dance to the music and be NICE(awful word I know) to each other. Happy New Year to everyone who knows us and also those who don't. Pat Well said Pat, i agree totaly..i am a mod and i go to mod,northern.r&b and have a brill time wherever i go,there is never a problem,and if any body has anything to say i never hear it, i am too busy having agood time...the only comments you ever see are on forums like these ,which is good in its self as its good to talk right im off .......see ya soon Mace Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Pat Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Thanks for the welcome Bearsy even though I think you are having a go You don't have to be involved in a group to be bothered by what goes on. Lets all just live and let live and whatever music is dear to your heart just KTF. bye for now Pat Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Simon Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 If I recall the uba call mods would not consider themselves as being classed as 'mods'. Their preference of tag (if any) was perhaps 'stylists'. Run of the mill mods were known as 'moddy boys'. Hi Ian, Must admit i prefer the term Soul Stylist/Stylist to Mod, it's got a bit more longevity. Of course there was also Glory boys for the revivalist Mods thanks to Secret Affair. Must admit quite enjoying this thread, always a fascinating subject! Simon Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Stuart T Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Hi Ian, Must admit i prefer the term Soul Stylist/Stylist to Mod, it's got a bit more longevity. Of course there was also Glory boys for the revivalist Mods thanks to Secret Affair. Must admit quite enjoying this thread, always a fascinating subject! Simon Isn't it all rather pretentious though, coming up with names for how you dress? I like to wear what I like and the label fell off years ago when I decided that as I went to work in a suit all week I wasn't wearing one out on the weekend. Soon after that I stopped washing and shaving and bought a Guana Batz LP, pretty soon thereafter I started living in a skip, bought a scooter and took my holidays on the Isle of Wight with the other Psychosouliescooterskinbillies and got Vespa tattooed on my cock (don't ask why I chose Vespa rather than Lambretta). No, hold up, that was all a dream, a really bad one. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Andy BB Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Hi Ian, Must admit i prefer the term Soul Stylist/Stylist to Mod, it's got a bit more longevity. Of course there was also Glory boys for the revivalist Mods thanks to Secret Affair. Must admit quite enjoying this thread, always a fascinating subject! Simon A Stylist? Rather! Could you fit me in next Friday for a short back and sides please? Mikey - It's probably because you'd look like a proper c*nt with a mohawk in your thirties but you can get away with a nice suit, tie and a pocket square (well, most people can, I just can't be arsed changing) Good topic this - has Rowly died or what? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 bought a scooter and took my holidays on the Isle of Wight with the other Psychosouliescooterskinbillies and got Vespa tattooed on my cock Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Isn't it all rather pretentious though, coming up with names for how you dress? I like to wear what I like and the label fell off years ago when I decided that as I went to work in a suit all week I wasn't wearing one out on the weekend. Soon after that I stopped washing and shaving and bought a Guana Batz LP, pretty soon thereafter I started living in a skip, bought a scooter and took my holidays on the Isle of Wight with the other Psychosouliescooterskinbillies and got Vespa tattooed on my cock (don't ask why I chose Vespa rather than Lambretta). No, hold up, that was all a dream, a really bad one. Was it a dream Stuart or are you really a closet pikey Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Was it a dream Stuart or are you really a closet pikey Dont be silly,Bearsy.Stuart can read and write Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Leigh J Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 If I recall the uba call mods would not consider themselves as being classed as 'mods'. Their preference of tag (if any) was perhaps 'stylists'. Run of the mill mods were known as 'moddy boys'. Also remember the transition (for some) from suits to army green's, flying jackets and monkey boots. This could be seen as simply a change in style or by osmosis a mod turning into a scooter boy. It depends on your point of view. Then there were 'psycho/scooter billies' with the mohicans, drinking pints of vomit etc. Isle of White 1984 springs to mind for many of these types and a classic line from a scouse soulie there; "It's all fookin poonks"! Lastly scooter skins were perhaps few and far between, but we had a mod mate from Harlow (Andy Ball) who decided one week to become a scooter skin. Removing all the chrome from his scooter, having his head shaved and dressing in denims with moccasins etc. This lasted for about a fortnight until I recall him uttering the immortal line "I'm no longer a scooter skin, I'm just a hard mod"! Happy days ... The Scooter scene In The early 80's Was Mad , In Our Small Club In Hinckley There Were Mods , Soulies , Skinheads etc... There Was A Lad Called Sid From Earl Shilton Who Had Motorhead On His Side Panels. The Music At The Do's Ranged From NS To The Meteors , There Was Usually A Mod Rally Up The Road We Always Went To Their Do's As The Music Was Better And There Was A Freindlier Atmosphere , Loads Of Trouble At The Rallies In Those Days. I Can Remember Gt Yarmouth 86 When The Late Desmond Dekker Had Amonia Sprayed On him By A Load Of Idiots , We Were Downstairs At The Time , I Understand That All This Is In The Past And Todays Rallies Are Much More Freindly. As For The Term Mods Surely This Is Short For Modernist , A Follower Of Modern Fashion So That Means If You Are Into The Arctic Monkeys Wear Stone Island And Prada You Could Be Termed As A Mod ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Bearsy Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 (edited) Anyway back to the original post, now we kind of all understand what a mod maybe, is the rare soul scene as fragmented as the scooter scene or visa versa in todays times and not in the past. I dont know of any fragmentation in either scene but i suppose if i could be bothered and looked for it i would probably find some somewhere, Isnt that what they call the politics . Right im off and never to return to this thread ever again. Edited January 3, 2007 by Bearsy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Anyway back to the original post, now we kind of all understand what a mod maybe, is the rare soul scene as fragmented as the scooter scene or visa versa in todays times and not in the past. I yes Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Spanner Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Nearly all my adult life from 75, 87 then from 96 onwards I've been involved with soul music and scooter's and the two have been like this as long as I can remember, when I first went to Wigan all-nighters I had guy's that had been attending all-nighters since the early sixties telling me I wasn't a true fan! "Not been to the Casino more than three times and he's bought this and that " or "I had a lambreta li when I was sixteen this is seventy eight and you think you're a mod don't make me laugh" Well as far as I can remember I was the one laughing and just enjoying myself to the full dancing to Soul, and riding my scoot! I had the great pleasure of DJing at Shepshed Scooter fun day this last Summer with Rob Gray a veI WAS THERE ry good friend of myself and we had a fantastic day started to play 45's at 1.00pm finishing at 1.30am with a two hour brake for the live bands, playing from top all out Northern to Punk, Brit beat, Tamla, Ska and God forbid no politics at all! With a load of scooterists having a great time. And a lot of them took the trouble to come and thank Rob and me. Some Mods some Skinheads and Scooterists with a few Soul fans in attendance as well, all getting on just fine as it should be. "My new year's resolution is to ignore all politics in my pursuit of pleasure" Steve J. I was there it was a cracking do Steve every one had a great time and music for all tastes [r/b was shite tho - ] Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Simon Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Anyway back to the original post, now we kind of all understand what a mod maybe, is the rare soul scene as fragmented as the scooter scene or visa versa in todays times and not in the past. I Totally fragmented imo, NS used to be simple, sports bag, change of shirt, some brut & some Northern stompers & off you go now you've got crossover, R & B, slowies, stompers, tent music, rare anorak music, slow anorak music, obvious returnee dinosaur stomper music etc. Also there only used to be a handfull of djs now clubs that run for say 10 hours have about 25 djs some of whom only started collecting two weeks ago! Simon Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Leigh J Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Totally fragmented imo, NS used to be simple, sports bag, change of shirt, some brut & some Northern stompers & off you go now you've got crossover, R & B, slowies, stompers, tent music, rare anorak music, slow anorak music, obvious returnee dinosaur stomper music etc. Also there only used to be a handfull of djs now clubs that run for say 10 hours have about 25 djs some of whom only started collecting two weeks ago! Simon Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Dave Rimmer Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Have I just spotted a Ron Dixon jibe or am I getting paranoid... No, you aren't paranoid, well spotted Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 So you're joking about not having a grass skirt then Forgot all about them... (and no, neither did I) Lordy..... No Deffo did not have a Grass skirt, but if I had, it would have had a stepped bottom with covered buttons in a grey mohair mix. Probably made by Beno Dorn in Chester! As for large quiffs...well I prefered my Clipper hat and it would have looked strange on top of a quiff Ben E King.........or King Kurt It was quite an easy choice to make for me at the time! Funny really as i am not embarressed in any way of my youthful quest to re invent / discover the 6ts. I still love the MOD style and still get the odd suit done! And of course music goes without saying! I think is great these days, I love the Scootering and attend Nationals (By Scooter!) whenever i can! Never had a crossed word with anyone on a Scooter rally in recent years! Yes the Soul music is still usually basic (Not always!) but I attend Soul nights and Allnighters to get my fix of tunes. Its all good in my opinion!! Mossy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
hipshaker 05 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 totally agree with your first points ...... but that was what i was trying to say a bit too. as i never had to endure the hassle in the 80s it never informed what we did. but yes ..... from what i know it would have been a nightmare to put on in the 80s. i don't have a problem with clubs catering for specific crowds (partly its what we do anyway ..... we're a 60s club) but i don't think adults disliking other adults because of what they're into is very healthy. I agree that this attitude was a bit stuck in the 80s, but as there was a lot of the hassle mentioned on scooter runs in the 80s then it was totally understandable why the mod scene took it's own direction for events at the time, and introduced dress codes to prevent further disruption. You cannot compare your current venues success to those times. Your club is hugely successful in todays scootering climate, and its a welcome thing to see as attitudes have changed and people matured......personally think it would have been a nightmare of a club to run in the 80s. Hence there are still clubs that cater for mods only, there are still differences of opinion, there are mods who still dislike scooterboys and vise versa, as there are many differences of opinion on the northern scene. It's what makes the world go round.............. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 but i don't think adults disliking other adults because of what they're into is very healthy. ...but what if that other adult is into picking you by the arms and legs with 3 of his mates and chucking you over a garden hedge cus you weren't wearing combats and a flight jacket Is it healthy to dislike them then? Or, mid flight would you be shouting 'This is great fun guys...no harm done...' Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
hipshaker 05 Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 oh definitely ....... but how riduculous that grown men (him and his 3 mates) would act in that way. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Rowly Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Good topic this - has Rowly died or what? Wishful thinking mate? Nah - I is still here... .....i know instinctively when someone is a proper Mod. They will looked sussed without their look looking forced, i've seen plenty of people desperately wanting to be seen as a Mod but proper Mods are subtle. Simon Wot he said! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Matt Male Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Bit nervous as this is my first post,even if it is a reply to someone else's original message. I have no connection at all with either the mods or scooterists. Mine is more a general comment.Having loved the music ,and danced to it,for over 37 years I'm finding the elitism a little bit hard to swallow. I've always told newcomers and outiders how friendly the Northern Soulies are but there seems to be quite a bit of backbiting in the past 6 months at least.It's a bit sad to hear that mods and scooterists are just the same.The only encouraging sign is that there are lots of younger folk attending soul nites and dancing to the music. Finally can I just say that life is too short and we should just go out,listen and dance to the music and be NICE(awful word I know) to each other. Happy New Year to everyone who knows us and also those who don't. Pat Even though in my original post i gave a few examples from the scooter scene that people who are purely on the soul scene might recognise, i never thought those debates were a problem. We can argue about differences all the time, i think it makes both scenes interesting and vibrant and diverse. I find discussions on here about oldies/newies, soul nights/niters, modern/60s (even Winnie vs Baz) etc.. always entertaining and never bitchy or backstabbing. I reckon a lot of people who say they are fed up with the politics are just fed up with discussion about the scene(s). Long may the arguments continue, they don't have to be nasty. Strangely enough (or not) away from this forum at niters and soul nights i find the rare soul scene as unified as ever and always have a good time. Happy New Year to you mate and welcome to Soul Source Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Hi! What a great thread! Most amusing reading..... Hello Rowly. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Rowly Posted January 3, 2007 Share Posted January 3, 2007 Hello Chris! Alright fella ? Didn't kow you were on here! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 (edited) ...but what if that other adult is into picking you by the arms and legs with 3 of his mates and chucking you over a garden hedge cus you weren't wearing combats and a flight jacket Is it healthy to dislike them then? Or, mid flight would you be shouting 'This is great fun guys...no harm done...' The FACT is that the sort of Scooterists that used to laugh and abuse and spit at us at the time, If questioned about it today are more embarrassed now about their behaviour than I ever was in a pair of Rupert the Bear Hipsters!!!! We won! (We knew we would!) Mossy Edited January 4, 2007 by mossy Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Mace Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 If questioned about it today are more embarrassed now about their behaviour than I ever was in a pair of Rupert the Bear Hipsters!!!! Mossy 'Kin'ell mate, think I might have admitted to wearing a grass skirt before those buggers.... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 'Kin'ell mate, think I might have admitted to wearing a grass skirt before those buggers.... I Agree.......they were our grass skirts! My mum still keeps them in the wardrobe...........I think she thinks they are posh T Towels with buttons on the bottom..............she must remember how much they cost? If anyone is wondering what we are on about....................Imagine a sort of Burberry cap with more checks.......then make a pair of Hipsters with the material..............add splits on bottom of said trouser........a couple of covered buttons above the split...........a 2 inch belt with massive belt loops................add a pair of Italian driving shoes..............a knitted top...........a 6ts Lambretta.........cream flasher mack...............a couple of Slim Harpo LPs, Herbie Goins, and a bit of Motown.....Maybe a copy of Sam Fletcher,George Freeman or Kell Osbourne..........not forgetting your Cord hat! Remember! This was the 8Ts! It was still better than grass skirts!!!! Mossy (had loads of grey trousers aswell!) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Strangely enough (or not) away from this forum at niters and soul nights i find the rare soul scene as unified as ever and always have a good time. Absolutley.........The Scooter Scene is the same................Everyone has an oppinion. and puts it into writing at some point.......but at the end of the day, its always the same................we all get on and have a good time! Rallys..Niters...........Whatever! And bloody good too I say! Mossy ...always Lambretta ! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Hello Chris! Alright fella? Didn't know you were on here! Yes mate. Done a bit of lurking on here. Been in live band land lately. Great thread this....ahem. I thought everyone (who has any relation to the afore mentioned scenes) had done this subject matter to the death years ago? Some peoples perception of certain cults (one in particular) are truly astounding. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I Agree.......they were our grass skirts! My mum still keeps them in the wardrobe...........I think she thinks they are posh T Towels with buttons on the bottom..............she must remember how much they cost? If anyone is wondering what we are on about....................Imagine a sort of Burberry cap with more checks.......then make a pair of Hipsters with the material..............add splits on bottom of said trouser........a couple of covered buttons above the split...........a 2 inch belt with massive belt loops................add a pair of Italian driving shoes..............a knitted top...........a 6ts Lambretta.........cream flasher mack...............a couple of Slim Harpo LPs, Herbie Goins, and a bit of Motown.....Maybe a copy of Sam Fletcher,George Freeman or Kell Osbourne..........not forgetting your Cord hat! Remember! This was the 8Ts! It was still better than grass skirts!!!! Mossy (had loads of grey trousers aswell!) Great post mate. I'm pleased to say that I never asked my tailor to produce such a chequered item. Always preferred the city gent end of things. Hated cord hats too. Although I have to agree, It was better than grass skirts. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Rowly Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Some peoples perception of certain cults (one in particular) are truly astounding. Ain't it! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 Ain't it! One cult? Or one person? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest SteveJohnston Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 I was there it was a cracking do Steve every one had a great time and music for all tastes [r/b was shite tho - ] R/B was shite tho I only played about ten R/B tracks and one of them i bought of you at the Half Time Orange Are you saying you sell shit records Happy New Year Mate hope you are keeping well big man. Steve J Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 One cult? Or one person? certain cults (one in particular) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Simsy Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 certain cults (one in particular) Ah ha. So a cult then? As opposed to a 'movement'? (so to speak). You can ave a talk ere, we're all pals .. (Bonus point if you can tell me which film that line is from) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest ScooterNik Posted January 4, 2007 Share Posted January 4, 2007 The FACT is that the sort of Scooterists that used to laugh and abuse and spit at us at the time, If questioned about it today are more embarrassed now about their behaviour than I ever was in a pair of Rupert the Bear Hipsters!!!! We won! (We knew we would!) Mossy OK, I'll bite..... Going back through the time tunnel again...............................(wavy line, wavy line) Funny, I remember on several rallies being told (I was in the dreads stage then..) that I was an embarrasment to scooters the way i looked. Same answer now as then. They break down, I can fix them. I get oily. Its practical. I also got jumped in Morecambe in (I think) 84 heading back to my digs by a handful of mods after a bit of a drunken row but that was then, this is now.... I am who I am, you are who you are and our interests are different? BTW (to whoever, its late and I can't be arsed reading back!), when I said "I served my apprenticeship as a mod..." i was happily spending all my hard eared on clothes and records etc, so please don't knock me if you don't know me. I grew out of it, you don't see that as being possible. Fair enough, I respect your view even if I don't accept the arguement. vive la difference..... Settle for a score draw Mossy? StuartT... feel free to knock Scootering. I only freelance, I don't edit it! BTW my last piece was in this months reviewing a cd. By a mod band, The Keepers. There's ironic? Its a good album though And hi Paul Soulfecker, you coming to the SBW party? Hopefully the DJs will have taken my heavy hints about "same styles, new sounds". God I hate hearing The Snake played at yet another f'kin scooter party. Show some imagination DJ people Finally again... what the hell has any of this really got to do with Northern Soul? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 (edited) Ah ha. So a cult then? As opposed to a 'movement'? (so to speak). You can ave a talk ere, we're all pals .. (Bonus point if you can tell me which film that line is from) Hehe...groan. Sorry mate, perhaps I shouldn't have abbreviated my description. Cult as in 'Sub culture'. To be honest I've discused this subject so many times in the past that I just can't be bothered anymore. People either know or they don't. With this in mind you could well ask 'what are you doing here then?' You'd be right. So tara for now. Edited January 5, 2007 by Well Suspect Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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