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JUST TO MENTION A POSSIBLE NEW THREAD- I FIND IT AMAZING THAT CERTAIN RECORDS ARE NOW FROWNED ON AND SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED ON THE TURNTABLE AT ANY COST, I WONDER WHETHER THIS IS A UNIVERSAL ATTITUDE OR IS IT REGIONAL (IE)YOU CAN PLAY XYZ IN LANCASHIRE BUT NOT IN LEICESTERSHIRE?

JUST TO MENTION A FEW:

WHY ARE THE FOLLOWING FROWNED UPON, OR DO I NEVER CATCH THEM WHEN PLAYED?

TAINTED LOVE GLORIA JONES- ONE OF THE BIGGEST RECORDS ON THE SCENE IN 74- IS THIS JUST DOWN TO MARK ALMOND AND FRANK?

YOU NEVER HEAR BENNY CURTIS -DIRTY HEARTS, IS THIS BECAUSE IT WAS DECLARED A SIMON RECORD? EXTREMELY ELUSIVE WEST COAST DANCE CLASSIC- THIS IS THE EPITOME OF NORTHERN SOUL DANCE.

AT THIS POINT MAY I POINT OUT THAT I THINK THERE IS A CONSIDERABLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DANCE CLASSIC AND A CLASSIC SOUL RECORD!

LAST BUT NOT LEAST - THE JOKER THE MILESTONES- UTTERLY SENSATIONAL, PLAYED IT AT THE RITZ AN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, MILES GRAYSON IS A GENIUS HASN'T ANYBODY GOT THE BALLS TO PLAY IT?

THIS IS WHAT NORTHERN SOUL WAS ALL ABOUT-ATMOSPHERIC, DRIVING BEAT, AN INSTRUMENTAL MUSICAL MASTERPIECE-RUINED BY THE JOKER HIMSELF-SIMON?

JUST ONE MORE JUST TO GET YOU GOING - FOOTSEE-WHAT YOU ALL CRY!

EVER PLAYED THE REAL VERSION BY THE CHOSEN FEW ON ROULETTE-CLASS DANCE RECORD COMPLETE WITH BREAK AND NO CAR HORNS, PLAYED THIS ONCE AT THE CASINO WHEN THE OTHER THING WAS A MONSTER, THE LOOK ON PEOPLES FACES WHEN THEY GOT TO THE BREAK AND NO HORNS!!!!

PLEASE NOTE I AM ONLY REFERING TO DANCE RECORDS WHICH HAVE BEEN AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE SCENE..........RIGHT I'LL DUCK NOW............

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..........RIGHT I'LL DUCK NOW............

Then do the jerk, the mashed potato and the temptation walk !

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..........RIGHT I'LL DUCK NOW............

Then do the jerk, the mashed potato and the temptation walk !

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ON CERTAIN OCCASIONS BENNY CURTIS LINE IT UP ALONGSIDE HAYES COTTON,

BACK TO BACK MILES GRAYSON, RESIST RULES..........

MILESTONES YES ON A REUNION AMAZING RECORD NOT ASHAMED TO ADMIT IT,

WOULD PROBABLY PLAY TOMMY RIDGELEY STRAIGHT AFTER TOTAL CONTRAST NO FLAT LINE ROLLERCOASTER PLAY TWO PERIODS OF MY LIFE BACK TO BACK..................

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I WONDER WHETHER THIS IS A UNIVERSAL ATTITUDE OR IS IT REGIONAL (IE)YOU CAN PLAY X.Y.Z. IN LANCASHIRE BUT NOT IN LEICESTERSHIRE?

CAN YOU PLAY S.H.I.T in Lancs and get away with it laugh.gif

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JUST TO MENTION A POSSIBLE NEW THREAD- I FIND IT AMAZING THAT CERTAIN RECORDS ARE NOW FROWNED ON AND SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED ON THE TURNTABLE AT ANY COST, I WONDER WHETHER THIS IS A UNIVERSAL ATTITUDE OR IS IT REGIONAL (IE)YOU CAN PLAY XYZ IN LANCASHIRE BUT NOT IN LEICESTERSHIRE?

Possible case of soul snobbery ??

People conveniently forgetting what they used to dance to all those years ago.

Although might have to draw the line at R.B. Freeman's "I'm shaft" even though it was massive in it's day !! laugh.gif

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I for one prefer my soul to be far away from that 'dance formula'. It may have been big in 76 but so was Vesta curries!

The vocal to double cooking - faith and understanding. Its awful! If the instrumental is not on the current list of plays why should the vocal. The vocal doesnt make it sound any better, worse if anything so why the fuss?

It would have been massive in the old days but not now. Times have moved on and that sound drags the scene backwards imo.

I prefer my soul to have a bit more class and more of an edge. Not the dreaded wigan poppy sounds. Great then I imagine but things have moved on.

Shane

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You can play S.H.I.T in lancs,is that right,some very jealous people about.None of our southern friends have mentioned last nites soccer results

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Why jealous. Not a dig at you. Not met you.Certain so called big Lancs DJ's play totally safe over here. Putting a playlist in manifesto is one thing. Playing them is another IMO . Look at some of the

playlist posted on this forum, some excellent stuff.

Dean Barlow, Futures, Jerry Fuller, please. laugh.gif

Football, I'm no Arsenal fan. (Hate Wednesday though)

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I for one prefer my soul to be far away from that 'dance formula'. It may have been big in 76 but so was Vesta curries!

The vocal to double cooking - faith and understanding. Its awful! If the instrumental is not on the current list of plays why should the vocal. The vocal doesnt make it sound any better, worse if anything so why the fuss?

It would have been massive in the old days but not now. Times have moved on and that sound drags the scene backwards imo.

I prefer my soul to have a bit more class and more of an edge. Not the dreaded wigan poppy sounds. Great then I imagine but things have moved on.

Shane

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What were you dancing to at Sam's revival then ? laugh.gif

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I for one prefer my soul to be far away from that 'dance formula'. It may have been big in 76 but so was Vesta curries!

The vocal to double cooking - faith and understanding. Its awful! If the instrumental is not on the current list of plays why should the vocal. The vocal doesnt make it sound any better, worse if anything so why the fuss?

It would have been massive in the old days but not now. Times have moved on and that sound drags the scene backwards imo.

I prefer my soul to have a bit more class and more of an edge. Not the dreaded wigan poppy sounds. Great then I imagine but things have moved on.

Shane

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AH, CLOSED MIND THEN................CATHOLIC TASTE IS JUST MORE INTERESTING

NOW GO BACK AND READ IT AGAIN NORTHERN DANCE AND CLASSIC SOUL- A TOTAL CONTRAST........................................

PS IT WAS ONLY FIVE MINUTES AGO WHEN WE TALKING ABOUT DEAN BARLOW, ELVIS PRESLEY AND DOLLY ALL GETTING PLAYED RECENTLY.

DO YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW THE POP CRAP CREPT INTO THE WIGAN SCENE?

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I for one prefer my soul to be far away from that 'dance formula'. It may have been big in 76 but so was Vesta curries!

The vocal to double cooking - faith and understanding. Its awful! If the instrumental is not on the current list of plays why should the vocal. The vocal doesnt make it sound any better, worse if anything so why the fuss?

It would have been massive in the old days but not now. Times have moved on and that sound drags the scene backwards imo.

I prefer my soul to have a bit more class and more of an edge. Not the dreaded wigan poppy sounds. Great then I imagine but things have moved on.

Shane

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My dad's favourate normansoul record is Double Cookin', it makes him get up and dance like a muppet. He hasn't heard Faith and Understanding yet, but if his response to Double Cookin' is anything to go by, that is reason enough not to play it! laugh.gif

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GREAT STORY ABOUT RB FREEMAN, BIG WINNIE BANS IT AT STATION RD, FOLLOWING WEEK, JV EN ROUTE BACK FROM ALLDAYER MAKES DETOUR TO WIGAN RUGBY CLUB DO SUNDAY NIGHT TO SEE OLD MATES RW AND RS, STEPS INTO VENUE BIG WINNIE SPINNING RBF..............HA HA!

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Why jealous. Not a dig at you. Not met you.Certain so called big Lancs DJ's play totally safe over here. Putting a playlist in manifesto is one thing. Playing them is another IMO . Look at some of the

playlist posted on this forum, some excellent stuff.

Dean Barlow, Futures, Jerry Fuller, please.  laugh.gif

Football, I'm no Arsenal fan. (Hate Wednesday though)

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DEAN BARLOW - NO NEVER

FUTURES BRILLIANT HOT CUT TERMINAL THREE HEATHROW DEPARTURE LOUNGE-NORTHERN SCENE NEVER!

JERRY FULLER YOU GET CARRIED AWAY? THEN CARRY IT AWAY TO THE DUMP IT SITE.

BENNY CURTIS- NORTHERN FIRST AND FOURMOST...................

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Why jealous,Blade,because everybody knows not only do we have the best beer

we also have the best venues.Seriously though i think every part of the country has its fair share of play safe djs.Think the guy you are refering to with the public playlist is from wales,think he also trades spots for reviews as well,definatlet does,nt get booked on merit.

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My girlfriend Jennifer, has loads of tapes from the 80s of bizaar wigan instrumentals that I love to listen to after I've been out dancing all night. But the silly girl never wrote down the names of them. laugh.gif

Although they would sound ridiculous in a club these days, I can only imagine the excitement some of these weird productions would give the hoards of blocked teenagers as they boomed out over the casino's distorted sound system. Cracking stuff! :wicked:

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Why jealous,Blade,because everybody knows not only do we have the best beer

we also have the best venues.Seriously though i think every part of the country has its fair share of play safe djs.Think the guy you are refering to with the public playlist is from wales,think he also trades spots for reviews as well,definatlet does,nt get booked on merit.

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Agree everywhere has play safe DJ's but I'm talking about big names. A guy from Sheffield posted a review saying one of them had played safe at a venue. You can't believe the hassle he's had from the North West over it. Disgusting. Even calling the mag saying sack him. The other one, did two separate venues in South Yorks. On both occaisions someone on before him played motown acetates.

He spit the dummy out. Said they were HIS records and demanded the DJ was sacked. Second time, he sent his wife to complain to the promoter for exactly the same thing. You couldn't make it up. That guy must have a very high opinion of himself. FFS

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I prefer my soul to have a bit more class and more of an edge. Not the dreaded wigan poppy sounds. Great then I imagine but things have moved on.

Shane

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It was a lot more fun in the 70's, I can tell you. A record didn't have to pass a colour test before it got played, we just used to enjoy the music and enjoy the scene. Everyone says that 'soul police' don't exist today - of course they do, take a look at yourselves. How many of you would play Jon Ford or I've Been Hurt Shane Martin nowadays? Why not? They sound great loud and were good to dance to.

As for JV playing the original Footsee - lines have to be drawn somewhere laugh.gif

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Obviously does have a big opinion of himself[think i know him]but at least the promoters will know not to book him again,lots of other good djs from the NW,at the end of the day big name or not,the promoters get the final say.After all its their money on the line.Just realised that after telling you how good NW venues are,my main promotion is sheridans,yorkshire,we are obviously not to bright eithier m8.

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It was a lot more fun in the 70's, I can tell you.  A record didn't have to pass a colour test before it got played, we just used to enjoy the music and enjoy the scene.  Everyone says that 'soul police' don't exist today - of course they do, take a look at yourselves.  How many of you would play Jon Ford or I've Been Hurt Shane Martin nowadays?  Why not?  They sound great loud and were good to dance to.

As for JV playing the original Footsee - lines have to be drawn somewhere  laugh.gif

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hello pete. i am not criticising the 70's. i can imagine they were magical times and i wish i was there mate. the point i was trying to make is that a lot of stuff played in the past does not sound right today. i accept it was a different era with different attitudes but you must agree that some of the stuff might have sounded great then but not so good today. your record sales must reflect the change in times and taste. what you may have sold 20 years ago by the bucketload may be a struggle now. Its not about colour either I am not one of those real deal black soul only types.

Shane

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You can play S.H.I.T in lancs,is that right,some very jealous people about.None of our southern friends have mentioned last nites soccer results

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Is that the southern Man U fans Andy or the southern Arsenal laugh.gif:wicked:

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AH,  CLOSED MIND THEN................CATHOLIC TASTE IS JUST MORE INTERESTING

NOW GO BACK AND READ IT AGAIN NORTHERN DANCE AND CLASSIC SOUL- A TOTAL CONTRAST........................................

PS IT WAS ONLY FIVE MINUTES AGO WHEN WE TALKING ABOUT DEAN BARLOW, ELVIS PRESLEY AND DOLLY ALL GETTING PLAYED RECENTLY.

DO YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW THE POP CRAP CREPT INTO THE WIGAN SCENE?

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i am far from 'closed mind'. i am not criticising what they played then its about what works nowadays. i am out every week friday and saturday if i can all over the country and i have a good idea about what works now and what doesnt. all i am saying is that some of the stuff played years ago should stay there. i dont mind the pop element but not all of it works nowadays.

i hope your thread wasnt about reviving such sounds for todays dancefloor. i only live a mile from samanthas and i am hoping for better! i think you are half way there john in my opinion and it could be better down there. However i am glad you are getting it going again and i wish you all the best. the first nighter was pretty good but the last soul night over xmas was poor. i will continue to support your events but dont bring back too much of the wigan pop please laugh.gif

I like Steve's playlist and i would recommend Pikeys Dog of Sheffield strongly.

i am not having a rant just trying to be constructive for the future of soul in Sheffield because for a big city we are way behind other smaller towns.

Shane

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WHY ARE THE FOLLOWING FROWNED UPON, OR DO I NEVER CATCH THEM WHEN PLAYED?

TAINTED LOVE GLORIA JONES- ONE OF THE BIGGEST RECORDS  ON THE SCENE IN 74- IS THIS JUST DOWN TO MARK ALMOND AND FRANK?

YOU NEVER HEAR BENNY CURTIS -DIRTY HEARTS, IS THIS BECAUSE IT WAS DECLARED A SIMON RECORD? EXTREMELY ELUSIVE WEST COAST DANCE CLASSIC- THIS IS THE EPITOME OF NORTHERN SOUL DANCE.

AT THIS POINT MAY I POINT OUT THAT I THINK THERE IS A CONSIDERABLE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A DANCE CLASSIC AND A CLASSIC SOUL RECORD!

LAST BUT NOT LEAST - THE JOKER THE MILESTONES- UTTERLY SENSATIONAL, PLAYED IT AT THE RITZ AN A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, MILES GRAYSON IS A GENIUS HASN'T ANYBODY GOT THE BALLS TO PLAY IT?

THIS IS WHAT NORTHERN SOUL WAS ALL ABOUT-ATMOSPHERIC, DRIVING BEAT, AN INSTRUMENTAL MUSICAL MASTERPIECE-RUINED BY THE JOKER HIMSELF-SIMON?

JUST ONE MORE JUST TO GET YOU GOING - FOOTSEE-WHAT YOU ALL CRY

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I personally wouldn't want to hear these too often, but if its a mixed/revival/across the board night why are they any less legitimate than the oldies that get flogged to death (which I would also prefer not to hear too often, but unfortunately do!!)

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i am no authority on soul and have little experience compared to a lot of you but I thought Stafford arrived just in time to destroy all the crap they were playing in the latter days of wigan. Someone correct me if i am wrong as i am speaking from second hand information. I have been fan of rare soul since about 1990 and since then I have noticed an abundance of Wigan revival nights but very little events referring to Stafford. Well it looks like this is changing with the introduction of the Stafford reunion allnighter courtesy of Chris Waterman and the team. I for one am much more excited about this than any wigan revival.

Just my opinion. I am not knocking what happened in the day as I am just more keen on the future. We have to live the future afterall!

Shane

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i am no authority on soul and have little experience compared to a lot of you but I thought Stafford arrived just in time to destroy all the crap they were playing in the latter days of wigan. Someone correct me if i am wrong as i am speaking from second hand information. I have been fan of rare soul since about 1990 and since then I have noticed an abundance of Wigan revival nights but very little events referring to Stafford. Well it looks like this is changing with the introduction of the Stafford reunion allnighter courtesy of Chris Waterman and the team. I for one am much more excited about this than any wigan revival.

Just my opinion. I am not knocking what happened in the day as I am just more keen on the future. We have to live the future afterall!

Shane

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Shane - this is my opinion, see if anyone else agrees with me. Wigan up to and including most of 1977, I can't say a bad word about the music. The very end of 77, and most of 78 was poor. This is when we had the Sue Lynns, Gene Latters, Helen Shapiro's etc - records that I have nothing against, but there was too much British stomp stomp stuff being played. So I stopped going. Then, at the end of 78, John Anderson hit a purple patch and Richard broke some of the best records ever over the next 18 months, from Cecil Washington to John & The Weirdest to The Lovers to Eddie Daye and so on. Unfortunately, the place was only half full by then except for the oldies allnighter which was always a packer. I never went to a saturday at the Casino again except for the final night which I wouldn't have missed for the world. But, apart from the hideous modern stuff and the playing of modern 12"ers which lasted 20 minutes, the music in the last 2 years of the Casino was as good as anything before or since. It was just that 18 month period before that when the worst of the music was played and unfortunately people now say that we spent our nights dancing to Joe 90 and Tony Blackburn - I personally NEVER heard Joe 90 and Tony Blackburn was played for maybe 2 weeks as a cover up.

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hello pete. i am not criticising the 70's. i can imagine they were magical times and i wish i was there mate. the point i was trying to make is that a lot of stuff played in the past does not sound right today. i accept it was a different era with different attitudes but you must agree that some of the stuff might have sounded great then but not so good today. your record sales must reflect the change in times and taste. what you may have sold 20 years ago by the bucketload may be a struggle now. Its not about colour either I am not one of those real deal black soul only types.

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What you mean Shane is that it "does not sound right today".... to you!

That doesn't give you, me or anybody else the right to say a track shouldn't be played.

Pete's right- it was more straightforward in the 70'S and as you have demonstrated, the soul police are far more active today!

And BTW, got to agree with Steve, you appeared to be enjoying yourself at Sams over Xmas laugh.gif

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My girlfriend Jennifer, has loads of tapes from the 80s of bizaar wigan instrumentals that I love to listen to after I've been out dancing all night. But the silly girl never wrote down the names of them. laugh.gif

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Mark Freeman (wiganer1) is your man for lost Wigan sounds.

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What you mean Shane is that it "does not sound right today".... to you!

That doesn't give you, me or anybody else the right to say a track shouldn't be played.

Pete's right- it was more straightforward in the 70'S and as you have demonstrated, the soul police are far more active today!

And BTW, got to agree with Steve, you appeared to be enjoying yourself at Sams over Xmas laugh.gif

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I always enjoy myself wherever i go. I can enjoy out and out oldie nights as much as the next man. However, the music was poor for long periods in my opinion. I didnt wake up the next day and think how good the music. I remember just having a great night with my friends. The problem is I attend many venues and I find it easy to compare. I am talking about Lifeline/soultown/flipside at sheridans, 100 club, wilton, notts union, new century etc.

You are right though Dave I have no authority on what should be played. Its just that I am spoiled one week and let down the next. Thats life i suppose.

Shane

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i am far from 'closed mind'. i am not criticising what they played then its about what works nowadays. i am out every week friday and saturday if i can all over the country and i have a good idea about what works now and what doesnt. all i am saying is that some of the stuff played years ago should stay there. i dont mind the pop element but not all of it works nowadays.

i hope your thread wasnt about reviving such sounds for todays dancefloor. i only live a mile from samanthas and i am hoping for better! i think you are half way there john in my opinion and it could be better down there. However i am glad you are getting it going again and i wish you all the best. the first nighter was pretty good but the last soul night over xmas was poor. i will continue to support your events but dont bring back too much of the wigan pop please laugh.gif

I like Steve's playlist and i would recommend Pikeys Dog of Sheffield strongly.

i am not having a rant just trying to be constructive for the future of soul in Sheffield because for a big city we are way behind other smaller towns.

Shane

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There you go again...all very subjective :shhh:

I cover as many miles as you do and would say that what "works now" in one place will not necessarily work in another.

And you don't see too many of the typical Sheffield crowd at, say, Sheridans, do you? :wicked:

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There you go again...all very subjective :shhh:

I cover as many miles as you do and would say that what "works now" in one place will not necessarily work in another.

And you don't see too many of the typical Sheffield crowd at, say, Sheridans, do you? :wicked:

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i suppose i am ranting tonight mate! laugh.gif

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I've got some of what are generally considered to be 100% soul classics in my own little collection - nor originals - Springers, Cairos, Eddie Parker, Ray Pollard, Del Larks, Magnetics and so on and so on - but I've also got Paula Parfitt, I've got Mark Loyd, I've got Rain Out of my mind - but I love all of them, I don't have separate sections for soul and pop, they're all Northern Soul as far as I'm concerned and thats why I enjoyed the 70's more than any other period, because to grow up at that time with those records was such an experience...Afternoon of the rhino, Hot line, Theres that mountain, Strings a gogo (sic), Tainted love....even then there were shit records though, Marc Copage springs to mind. But if you give me a choice at this point in my life as to what period I could go back to it would have to be 75 to 77.

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Its just that I am spoiled one week and let down the next. Thats life i suppose.

Shane

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I think all of us that go out every weekend suffer this Shane.

I can have a good night at an oldies/ Across the board effort if I know what to expect beforehand...What really pisses me off is if a night is billed as up-front and it turns out not to be, or if I go to hear a certain DJ and he ain't there laugh.gif

BTW, its the new equivalent of the Union this Friday and Mick has said he will play the flip of Margaret Little :wicked: Are you nipping down the M1?

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I think all of us that go out every weekend suffer this Shane.

I can have a good night at an oldies/ Across the board effort if I know what to expect beforehand...What really pisses me off is if a night is billed as up-front and it turns out not to be, or if I go to hear a certain DJ and he ain't there laugh.gif

BTW, its the new equivalent of the Union this Friday and Mick has said he will play the flip of Margaret Little :wicked:   Are you nipping down the M1?

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i will be at soulsville in leeds on friday and sheridans on saturday. will try to get to notts next time.

Shane

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I've got some of what are generally considered to be 100% soul classics in my own little collection - nor originals - Springers, Cairos, Eddie Parker, Ray Pollard, Del Larks, Magnetics and so on and so on - but I've also got Paula Parfitt, I've got Mark Loyd, I've got Rain Out of my mind - but I love all of them, I don't have separate sections for soul and pop, they're all Northern Soul as far as I'm concerned and thats why I enjoyed the 70's more than any other period, because to grow up at that time with those records was such an experience...Afternoon of the rhino, Hot line, Theres that mountain, Strings a gogo (sic), Tainted love....even then there were shit records though, Marc Copage springs to mind.  But if you give me a choice at this point in my life as to what period I could go back to it would have to be 75 to 77.

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Good for you Pete for having the balls to mention Rain, Paula Parfitt etc. They were an integral part of the scene :wicked:

When Cleethorpes took off in 75 I went there instead of Wigan (some people tend to forget the influence Cleggy had) and I sometimes ask for some of "their" oldies.

It's quite ironic that some DJs who played Black Nasty, Elusive, Willi J then won't entertain em now, even at "revivals" on the Eastern side of the country laugh.gif

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i am far from 'closed mind'. i am not criticising what they played then its about what works nowadays. i am out every week friday and saturday if i can all over the country and i have a good idea about what works now and what doesnt. all i am saying is that some of the stuff played years ago should stay there. i dont mind the pop element but not all of it works nowadays.

i hope your thread wasnt about reviving such sounds for todays dancefloor. i only live a mile from samanthas and i am hoping for better! i think you are half way there john in my opinion and it could be better down there. However i am glad you are getting it going again and i wish you all the best. the first nighter was pretty good but the last soul night over xmas was poor. i will continue to support your events but dont bring back too much of the wigan pop please laugh.gif

I like Steve's playlist and i would recommend Pikeys Dog of Sheffield strongly.

i am not having a rant just trying to be constructive for the future of soul in Sheffield because for a big city we are way behind other smaller towns.

Shane

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no worries nobody is going to play wigan pop, just to remind you that I left Wigan because of the pop crap that was being played IN 1976 as you have noticed so did Pete and a hell of a lot of others, I was not prepared to listen to Sandie Shaw and Tim Tam and the Jerk offs and bailed out to St Ives AND THAT UNFORTUNATELY WAS DRIVEN BY ANOTHER PROFITEER WHO WAS UNINTERESTED IN THE SCENE.

In fact just for the record I stood up to him and got sacked for it unlike some of the others Soul Sam etc.

Surprised you didnt enjoy Sams at Xmas it was a REUNION basically all the old stuff, we had a big problem getting people to leave at the end.

SAMS ALLNIGHTER TOTALLY DIFFERENT BAG, TALK TO ROB THOMAS WE HAVE THE STRATEGY WORKED OUT, LOADS OF GUESTS THIS YEAR AND A FEW SURPRISES AS WELL. UNDERGROUND NS AT ITS BEST.........

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It was a lot more fun in the 70's, I can tell you.  A record didn't have to pass a colour test before it got played, we just used to enjoy the music and enjoy the scene.  Everyone says that 'soul police' don't exist today - of course they do, take a look at yourselves.  How many of you would play Jon Ford or I've Been Hurt Shane Martin nowadays?  Why not?  They sound great loud and were good to dance to.

As for JV playing the original Footsee - lines have to be drawn somewhere  :wicked:

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Shit Pete I can remember when I played it you danced!!! laugh.gif

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Shit Pete I can remember when I played it you danced!!! laugh.gif

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I would never deny I danced to Footsee but the Roulette version is horrible and I can't remember ever having danced to that...honest!

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i am no authority on soul and have little experience compared to a lot of you but I thought Stafford arrived just in time to destroy all the crap they were playing in the latter days of wigan.

Crap from the latter days of Wigan !!

You are right fancy having to listen to garbage like this lot... laugh.gif

The ideal was to get there at 2am and avoid Russ

Eddie Holman Where I'm not wanted

Ray Agee I'm losing again

Vondells Hey girl you've changed

Combinations Whatcha gonna do

Gene Toones What more do you want

Admirations You left me

Cecil Washington I don't like to lose

Ascots Another day

Imaginations Strange neighborhood

Jackey Beavers I need my baby

Court Davis Try to think what you're doing

John & Wierdest Can't get over these memories

Mr Soul What happened to yesterday

William Powell Heartache souvenirs

Nomads Something's bad

Paris Sleepless nights

Pat Lewis No one to love

Rosey Jones All I need is a half a chance

Nurons All of my life

Four Tracks Like my love for you

Little Ann What should I do

John & Wierdest No time

Vickie Baines Country girl

Damon Fox Packin' up

Don Gardner Cheating kind

Friendly People Ain't got nothing but the blues

Bobby Adams That's the kind of man I am

Caressors I can't stay away

Cashmeres Showstopper

Magnetics I have a girl

Moses Dillard I'll pay the price

Ray Pollard This time

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I would never deny I danced to Footsee but the Roulette version is horrible and I can't remember ever having danced to that...honest!

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It must have been your brother, Pete I need some more records I swapped everything I bought off you recently, for one record.

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Some great stuff played in those last two years at wigan,as good as anything before or after,unfortunatley wigan will always have it knockers,but so what there was crap played at every venue.Look forward to seeing you sat nite shane will lend you some old wigan tapes m8.

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WELL SAID SUMMED IT UP NICELY !!!

LAST TWO YEARS OF WIGAN CASINO WAS A PURPLE PATCH REGARDING TUNES

PLAYED ALL THE 45,S ARE STILL PRIZED 45,S TO HAVE AND TO LISTEN AND DANCE TOO laugh.gif

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Some great stuff played in those last two years at wigan,as good as anything before or after,unfortunatley wigan will always have it knockers,but so what there was crap played at every venue.Look forward to seeing you sat nite shane will lend you some old wigan tapes m8.

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Spot on, some interesting points here, unfortunately my boss has my nose to grindstone these days so cant contribute, have found things I agree and disagree with here, but definitely the point about Wigans last 2 years, I only started going last 2 years and for 18 months before end went nearly every Saturday, some times with half a dozen dancing on main floor, but it set my taste for life, some of the best music ever played (some still getting played) in those times.

Cheers

Jock

Also realise its another thread but are we not missing the point a little having a Stafford revival, was that not the whole point Stafford was against, Having said that, since that was my best years on scene I will go along and reminisce no doubt!!!

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Exactly!

It was painful having to listen to all this muck.

And then there was rubbish like Arin Demain too laugh.gif

Godz

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Oh how dreadful, and as for Al Williams, Chandlers, Billy Wizdom etc... 'twas enough to turn anyone to drink :wicked:

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when i said the latter days of wigan being poor and stafford raising the quality again, i was refering to comments from Keb Darge. When Wigan closed I was 7 years old so as I said I was no authority on the scene. Looking at that list it makes your mouth water and I wish I was there to enjoy it. I hope people didnt take me the wrong way as I was only raising comment with a view for clarification.

Shane

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Some great stuff played in those last two years at wigan,as good as anything before or after,unfortunatley wigan will always have it knockers,but so what there was crap played at every venue.Look forward to seeing you sat nite shane will lend you some old wigan tapes m8.

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nice one andy! laugh.gif

Shane

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Obviously does have a big opinion of himself[think i know him]but at least the promoters will know not to book him again,lots of other good djs from the NW,at the end of the day big name or not,the promoters get the final say.After all its their money on the line.Just realised that after telling you how good NW venues are,my main promotion is sheridans,yorkshire,we are obviously not to bright eithier m8.

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ShaneH keeps telling me how good sheridans is and I've got to get there soon.

Look forward to meting you.

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Oh how dreadful, and as for Al Williams, Chandlers, Billy Wizdom etc...  'twas enough to turn anyone to drink    :wicked:

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Ha Ha. Nice.

I didn't miss many Wigan all nighters / oldies inclusive, '75 til end. I was gobsmacked when you told me years ago that all these "new" oldies I liked had all been first spun at Wigan. :shhh:

Or was every one in Mr. M's keeping away from all the pop

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when i said the latter days of wigan being poor and stafford raising the quality again, i was refering to comments from Keb Darge. When Wigan closed I was 7 years old so as I said I was no authority on the scene. Looking at that list it makes your mouth water and I wish I was there to enjoy it.  I hope people didnt take me the wrong way as I was only raising comment with a view for clarification.

Shane

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Not at all Shane, I think thats the point, people over years have talked about Wigan being pop and its generally accepted Shane, so its good to discuss thatg openly. By the time I started going most of the pop stuff had dissapeared (except for one obvious culprit and even he wasnt too bad all the time) and I was mystified by all the talk of Wigan playing pop.

Cheers, hope to see you sometime.

Jock

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