Johnny Scott-Let me be a winner-Portra

Came out twice, originally with long spoken intro, second issue which went straight into the beat. Anyone remeber the story behind this.

Dave

Johnny Scott-Let me be a winner-Portra

Came out twice, originally with long spoken intro, second issue which went straight into the beat. Anyone remeber the story behind this.

Dave

No story issued twice with a long slow intro and a better mix on the first one. The first one is harder.

Johnny Scott-Let me be a winner-Portra

Do adore this track...still needs more airplay IMHO. Mate of mine the late Steve Plimmer in Shrewsbury introduced me to it in the mid 80's....only just got a copy at long last myself...incidentally off you Dave!

Be very interested to hear the vocal intro version...any sound bites?

Edited December 5, 200717 yr by soulechoes

Great record , his "Its over now" is a nice midtempo number , well worth getting

Great record , his "Its over now" is a nice midtempo number , well worth getting

Hi Simon

Also have a nice LP by him somewhere

Johnny Scott-Let me be a winner-Portra

Came out twice, originally with long spoken intro, second issue which went straight into the beat. Anyone remeber the story behind this.

Dave

I don't know the story, Stateside, Dave but I was the first to play the long intro version over here.

Early 80's, Sam and Arthur had been playing the track for a month or two with the 'straight into the beat' mix.

They'd picked up a couple of copies in the states and returned soon after with more. The same night we were on at Rotherham Tiffanys allnighter in the main room and I was following Sam. Before I took over I had a quick furtle through his Sales Box (as you do) and pulled out a copy of Johnny Scott (which only they had copies of until that point).

I gave him about £8 for it and followed Sam, kicking off with my new Johnny Scott 45 at which point we both nearly fell off the stage... and the dancers left the floor... as the slow intro kicked in. They'd bought the stock and never bothered to play 'em.

Frantically Sam took over the spare deck and headphones to see if the other half dozen copies in his Sales Box were the same. As I recall, only one other copy from the six had the long intro, but that was enough for him not to want to buy the copy back from me!

Strange but true!

As to which is the rarest today, I haven't got a clue.

Edited May 24, 201410 yr by Sean Hampsey

I don't know the story, Stateside, Dave but I was the first to play the long intro version over here

Early 80's, Sam and Arthur had been playing the track for a month or two with the 'straight into the beat' mix.

They'd picked up a couple of copies in the states and returned soon after with more. The same night we were on at Rotherham Tiffanys allnighter in the main room and I was following Sam. Before I took over I had a quick furtle through his Sales Box (as you do) and pulled out a copy of Johnny Scott (which only they had copies of until that point).

I gave him about £8 for it and followed Sam, kicking off with my new Johnny Scott 45 at which point we both nearly fell off the stage... and the dancers left the floor... as the slow intro kicked in. They'd bought the stock and never bothered to play 'em.

Frantically Sam took over the spare deck and headphones to see if the other half dozen copies in his Sales Box were the same. As I recall, only one other copy from the six had the long intro, but that was enough for him not to want to buy the copy back from me!

Strange but true!

As to which is the rarest today, I haven't got a clue.

Roundabout this time i wrote to johnny scott and he sent me a couple of copies (without the spoken intro) so maybe they had dropped the long intro for commercial reasons. He never mentioned it in his letter he did say there seemed to be a lot of interest in his single in England and hoped to do something over there, He also sent me a promo photo but although i know i have it somewhere just not sure where- as you do

DJ

Would there be a big price difference between the two versions?

Got one without the spoken intro from you Dave if memory serves me right.

I don't know the story, Stateside, Dave but I was the first to play the long intro version over here

Early 80's, Sam and Arthur had been playing the track for a month or two with the 'straight into the beat' mix.

They'd picked up a couple of copies in the states and returned soon after with more. The same night we were on at Rotherham Tiffanys allnighter in the main room and I was following Sam. Before I took over I had a quick furtle through his Sales Box (as you do) and pulled out a copy of Johnny Scott (which only they had copies of until that point).

I gave him about £8 for it and followed Sam, kicking off with my new Johnny Scott 45 at which point we both nearly fell off the stage... and the dancers left the floor... as the slow intro kicked in. They'd bought the stock and never bothered to play 'em.

Frantically Sam took over the spare deck and headphones to see if the other half dozen copies in his Sales Box were the same. As I recall, only one other copy from the six had the long intro, but that was enough for him not to want to buy the copy back from me!

Strange but true!

As to which is the rarest today, I haven't got a clue.

THINK IT WAS ABOUT THIS TIME MY GOOD BUDDIES THE STEELE BROTHERS FROM BARNSLEY ACCIDENTLY PURCHASED TWO COPIES AND I WAS THE LUCKY RECIPITANT OF THE SPARE ONE WITH THE SPOKEN INTRO .

BRI.

The slow start onbe is by far the harder...it's a better mix too

Thought i`d reactivate this thread  . Been meaning to check my copy for years,just found it in my to do/  check pile  . Good news mine`s got the spoken intro  .It was more  by luck  then anything i didn`t know at the time there was 2 mixs,had it for years and got it cheap on ebay.

 

Any ideas what year this was released?Checking on line ,Dennis of Greece on his blog mentioned  it could be 1980 which would match what Sean Hempsey said about it first getting spins.

 

Have to say think this 45 could do with a reactivation on radio/early door sets  clubs/pubs.

Thought i`d reactivate this thread  . Been meaning to check my copy for years,just found it in my to do/  check pile  . Good news mine`s got the spoken intro  .It was more  by luck  then anything i didn`t know at the time there was 2 mixs,had it for years and got it cheap on ebay.

 

Any ideas what year this was released?Checking on line ,Dennis of Greece on his blog mentioned  it could be 1980 which would match what Sean Hempsey said about it first getting spins.

 

Have to say think this 45 could do with a reactivation on radio/early door sets  clubs/pubs.

 

 

I agree, been playin' it on the radio, always to a great response, long intro version .............

I agree, been playin' it on the radio, always to a great response, long intro version .............

 

 

Funny enough it was listening to one of your old shows from Solar that made me dig it out    .

 

I will be in touch Dave re the other tracks you played hopefully sometime today which we talked about a month ago at Masters at Soul.I haven`t forgot,it`s just finding time.

Yes it's a cracking mix.

How many LP's has he done, any details of them?

Can't find anything on interweb, thought I had one but not at home at moment so can't check

Okay a bit of googling,

https://www.raresoulman.co.uk/d/138985/SCOTT,_JOHNNY

The Portra one, is there another Portra one? What is this like? Do I have it already?

https://www.cdbaby.com/cd/JohnnyScott11

And a relatively recent one, nice to see him still going, description doesn't really sell but may download it tonight as a thanks for his earlier stuff. Anyone heard this?

Hi Jock

 

I've got one of his LP's somewhere, think it's later than the 45 discussed. But he also had at least one 60's 45 on this label as well, seems like he is a good old trouper.

Johnny Scott "Feeling With Feelings" Portra LP from 1988 featuring the 45 "Its Over Now" and 8 other tracks

 

Cheers Paul

Edited July 30, 201311 yr by soul shrews

I have one somewhere - think its the non spoken intro one. Will check tonight if I can find it.

 

There's one on discogs now - £75!

 

Peter

Edited July 30, 201311 yr by Peter99

How many LP's has he done, any details of them?

Can't find anything on interweb, thought I had one but not at home at moment so can't check

 

i`ve only got another 45 on same label which Simon Mention earlier in previous thread. Mind i can`t remember buying it but it`s  marked in the Jm book as got..

Off to search for it  .

 

Hope your well James.

Edited July 30, 201311 yr by Hammersoul

i`ve only got another 45 on same label which Simon Mention earlier in previous thread. Mind i can`t remember buying it but it`s  marked in the Jm book as got..

Off to search for it  .

 

Hope your well James.

Other Portra 45's are - JUANITA REDDICK - WON'T YOU PLEASE CALL which is a jazzy tune, plus there's at least four 45's by TOM SANDERS

Other Portra 45's are - JUANITA REDDICK - WON'T YOU PLEASE CALL which is a jazzy tune, plus there's at least four 45's by TOM SANDERS

 

Tom Sanders I'll get to that was one

There are quite a few others including one played briefly at Stafford

 

I tracked Johnny Scott down when he was all the rage and covered his work in Blackbeat with a pic....he sent me one of each of the Portra 45s which I still have!

There are quite a few others including one played briefly at Stafford

 

I tracked Johnny Scott down when he was all the rage and covered his work in Blackbeat with a pic....he sent me one of each of the Portra 45s which I still have!

 

You could`t dig out the mag and see what year he released his 45`s could ya Steve?

Quite a few people seem to be getting a bit mixed up on this thread.

 

Just to confirm a few things.

 

The first copy's of said record came into the UK via Dave Raistrick & the first 3 people to play it that very week were Soul Sam, Arthur Fenn & Steve Mannion, all supplied the said disc by Dave.

 

Hope that helps.

Here is the original article I wrote on Johnny Scott, it references when the second version was discovered. Remember talking to Johnny like it was yesterday even though it was over 30 years ago now! There's two pics of Johnny and one of "The singing dentist" OT Sykes....

Steve

Edited August 4, 201311 yr by Steve G

Here is the original article I wrote on Johnny Scott, it references when the second version was discovered. Remember talking to Johnny like it was yesterday even though it was over 30 years ago now! There's two pics of Johnny and one of "The singing dentist" OT Sykes....

Steve

 

 

Thanks Steve. Confirms what I said in 2007. The old memory still intact (or at least it was back then lol).

 

What an absolutely fantastic mag that was. Way ahead of its time.

 

 

Sean