Barry Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 There has always been an underground black music scene with youngsters, stretching back to whenever. Not so now it seems. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 There has always been an underground black music scene with youngsters, stretching back to whenever. Not so now it seems. in chicago there is a pretty big underground "juke" music / dance scene on the south and west sides. mainly high school kids involved with it. the music is like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmIKsjxuzWg and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boMLvbCqlWk&feature=user Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
boba Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 in chicago there is a pretty big underground "juke" music / dance scene on the south and west sides. mainly high school kids involved with it. the music is like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmIKsjxuzWg and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boMLvbCqlWk&feature=user this is what the dancing looks like (I just picked random videos on youtube): and this Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Hunnymon Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 this is what the dancing looks like (I just picked random videos on youtube): and this Back n my youth I remember having a coversation with my mates about what the music of the future would be like. We were thinking how our parents didn't relate to the type of music that we enjoyed. We concluded that it would be some kind of wierd noises that we couldn't relate to either! Looks like we were right!! Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
TOAD Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 WAS THAT MUSIC ? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Byrney Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 this is what the dancing looks like (I just picked random videos on youtube): and this and in Detroit there's the Jit scene: https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedCon...;threadid=54071 Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Spacehopper Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 maybe not with soul but early ska and rocksteady is still very big with the kids....a seller in bristol sells out of his reissues almost as soon as they are in... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest northernsoulboy6 Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 this is what the dancing looks like (I just picked random videos on youtube): and this The dancing is ok and i am sure the music has its merits but apart from being expressive its not my cup off tea. If we are comparing that with the soul scene then soul wins hands down. My son who is 16 went through every genre of music until he found one i didn't like . Its an underground movement when its created by youth and authority and parents don't get it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Little-stevie Posted August 4, 2008 Share Posted August 4, 2008 There has always been an underground black music scene with youngsters, stretching back to whenever. Not so now it seems. Maybe there still is.... Maybe you aint underground anymore and don't see it.... Underground does mean you have to go and find it and not have everything on google search..... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Barry Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 Maybe there still is.... Maybe you aint underground anymore and don't see it.... Underground does mean you have to go and find it and not have everything on google search..... Stevie, I'll let that one pass as you clearly, due to your age or [possibly] your cluelessness, have no idea who you are talking to. ( Bigger WINK than yours) Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Barry Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 maybe not with soul but early ska and rocksteady is still very big with the kids....a seller in bristol sells out of his reissues almost as soon as they are in... I have no doubt that he does, but in the towns (Outside The City), the black music scene (other than pop R& appears to have no bed anymore. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Spacehopper Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 what about drum and bass ?....flirted with the charts but very underground again....originally black music, now loved by all races...although i suppose early 90s when it started isnt 'old' yet Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Beeks Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Hip Hop is Massive with the kids round these parts, and with the samples used in these records, more and more kids are hunting out the original cuts...you'd be surprised Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Hip Hop is Massive with the kids round these parts, and with the samples used in these records, more and more kids are hunting out the original cuts...you'd be surprised Dont the Mint Lounge have Hip Hop nights on?. Jayne.x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Beeks Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Dont the Mint Lounge have Hip Hop nights on?. Jayne.x Yep...my mate runs Nish Nash Nosh which plays all sorts, hip hop/rare groove/funk etc...Manchester music scene is always a bit of a mish-mash hehe Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Yep...my mate runs Nish Nash Nosh which plays all sorts, hip hop/rare groove/funk etc...Manchester music scene is always a bit of a mish-mash hehe And I believe there is a regular night on in Chorlton somewhere too... (I must pay attention more!) Jayne.x. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Barry Posted August 15, 2008 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 I see that I have not been clear enough with my post for some. Hip Hop and D&B and the ilk, I think, drew a different social devotee. In my time, Northern/soul/jazz/funk, all borne of each other, had a following, not so now. The feeling behind the music, our music, drew a certain person, for definate reasons. Likening Hip Hop and D&B to the form of music I believe we love, is like saying that Crass was similar to The Jam, or Jean-Michel Jarre were similar to The Stranglers. Am I to believe that I had to state the above, did you really need my assistance with the question - or were you just being nit-pickers? Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
sister dawn Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Im lovin the comment the kidz wrote under those links....some of em sound sort of familiar to a scene not a million miles away Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Barry Posted August 15, 2008 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 Hip Hop is Massive with the kids round these parts, and with the samples used in these records, more and more kids are hunting out the original cuts...you'd be surprised I'm aware of that having spent 20 years behind a record shop counter dealing with, amongst others, hip hop kids. I believe that anyone attracted to hip hop and it's culture will never attain the level of understanding of it's obvious roots, simply by feeling the need to further their knowledge of hip hop by seeking out the samples that their fave artist utilised. It's a feather in the cap thing for when they speak to other hip hop kids (and why not? I'm not having a go at it), but they aren't going to dig out a Michael Wycoff album cos 'Looking Up To You was sampled on a track they know and sit in with it. I must say that lads that were into hip hop in the early 90's especially, before it became a bling thing, had a tremendous amount of passion for their music and I am in no way deriding the music or their love of it. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Spacehopper Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 There has always been an underground black music scene with youngsters, stretching back to whenever. Not so now it seems. not nit picking at all barry drum and bass,hip hop,reggae...all black music,all liked by youngsters and all underground and watered down whenever entering the charts.....as with northern but other than that not comparing it to the northern scene today or years ago but answering your original post still Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Beeks Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I must say that lads that were into hip hop in the early 90's especially, before it became a bling thing, had a tremendous amount of passion for their music and I am in no way deriding the music or their love of it. They still do...nothing has changed, the 'Bling Bling' thing as you have stated is only applicable to the masses that jumped on P-Diddys wagon...its a big business Hip Hop...and the commercial side of it is very profitable but the people who buy 50 Cent albums are NOT the Hip Hop crowd...they are just the HMV masses...The Underground scene is still alive and well, UK Hip Hop is the biggest it has ever been with the likes of Ty, Roots Manuva, Rodney P and all the West London lot and even Manchester acts such as Broken English are all pushing Boundaries...it's not a case of there is nothing...but where to look... As for your comment about Hip Hop enthusiasts just searching out old records for props with their peers this is unfounded, I have lots of friends who are Hip Hop DJs...but they also have immense soul/funk collections and truelly appreciate the history of what their genre was born out of... Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 In my time, Northern/soul/jazz/funk, all borne of each other, had a following, not so now. Try a night at King George's Hall, B.burn or Richard's Hilton weekenders..... or others that I'm too tired to think of.. Barry, Have you been to seductive Soul recently?... Jayne.x Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Tomangoes Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 I'm glad there are still various underground music and style scenes, it sets the kids up to have some edge in life. Thats the good part, but. Watching most of these young pretenders, I observe that after 2 minutes of scuffling around they are fooked, actually just like me now but not like me when I was 16, so they need to get fitter. Some talc on the floor might help them. None of the music is really as fast as stuff like 'Im coming to your rescue' 'Ton of Dynamite' 'The champion' 'Tune up' 'How can I forget You' 'Manifesto' etc etc. Id love to see these 'young uns' dance through that lot at full pelt and see if they can find time for an encore at the end of it. Ed Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest Biggie G Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Sod the Youth, life is wasted on the youth give me Chicago Steppers anytime, the nearest thing to the northern scene anywere in the world imho. Cheers Gareth Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Kevinkent Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Sod the Youth, life is wasted on the youth give me Chicago Steppers anytime, the nearest thing to the northern scene anywere in the world imho. Cheers Gareth Very nice. And unlike the guy in this threads first clip they could dance for more than 30 seconds. What was with the matching shirts though, they made it seem a rather contrived "dance class" sort of thing. Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 We seem to get lots of RAP ect ect and loads of sugary diet pop/soul they call R&B.....DON'T ANY BLACK AMERICANS want to be singing some good old uptempo stuff (no not 60's style) just some stuff with a bit of GO in it.Every time we see any singers on the t.v they all look manufactured......and whilst a lot of em do have great voices......they sing as i've said DIET CRAP...TEZZA Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
Guest gordon russell Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 this is what the dancing looks like (I just picked random videos on youtube): and this Thats not dancing,just a load of rubbish......who wants to dance in some gym or on the street watched by a load of onlookers.Typical america.....everything about how good you look,how cool you are.......remember more is less,less is more Link to comment Social source share More sharing options...
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