Ian Levine, Motorcity, Centre City, Blackpool Mecca, And Swons

[Guest posstot]

Come on guys, can we please please please keep it on topic.

Thanks

Nick

i did mentin IL in my post!!

[Mark B]

Right now at least I have a really nice one next to my name. If I listen to something else, it will disappear. I don't want people to think my taste has faltered.

will now be my last played clip, was this played at the mecca ian, i have known it for a long time tape from my brother until i got a copy a few years ago.

mark

[Guest James Trouble]

But if you read this....

https://www.djhistory.com/interviews/ian-levine

Everything that you're asking me is all in there in much greater detail. After you have read it, if you want to ask further questions, after already informing yourself by reading this, then I am happy to concur.

Ok, so the rules of this thread are becoming a little clearer now. Maybe next time you start a thread, could I suggest you post the guidlines at the start of the thread, rather than after all this time.

All contributers have to have read the complete volume of Ian Levine history, including third party interviews, and then I presume answer questions on Your history correctly, to be able to ask you questions, as long as they have not been asked elsewhere in cyber space before? Okay dockey...

There's been a fair bit if interest in this thread, is it worth starting a sub section of the forum. "All About Levine" and then there can be seperate sections within that, a media section, free basing section, family history, psychology, LEvine at The Mecca, LEvine At The Casino, Levine at The Curry Houses, that sort of thing.

I understand GarethX not wanting a sub section for funk, I can see his point, but there is probably a valid case for an "All About The Levine", given the interest in this thread and the sheer depth of knowledge on offer here from it's contributers. A forum sub section would certainly make it easier for anyone wanting to search specific Levine information.

Anyway, I've read it, it's not the best interview in the world. But I'm certainly interested in asking some questions, I just need to make a cup of tea...

Edited August 25, 2008 by James Trouble

[Mark B]

Kev Roberts

thought richard and dave evison attended the mecca a few times.

mark

[Guest JJMMWGDuPree]

Spot on Mark.

I think the confusion over the last few posts is that Ian always talks about 'Northern Soul' as a genre; uptemo, poppy, strings etc... whether it be soul or not. But it's always been a certain sound and a scene, not a musical genre. Those people who think Ian is defending soul music against rock and roll and R&B, you're wrong, he's trying to define what his version of northern soul is (as he always has done to his credit). Great dance music yes but to be honest his version of northern soul has just never been very soulful in my opinion.

As for Shrine recordings, anyone who doesn't like The Prophets - One Gold Piece should have their ears cut off; if they haven't already. It makes me sad that people who criticise what they consider rock and roll or R&B are actually probably not into soul music at all, just uptempo 'northern'. That's how it seems to me anyway.

And herein lies the whole problem that I personally, as a newcomer, have with this scene. No one actually seems to be able to agree on what IS Northern Soul. There is in fact only one person who could have cleared things up for us only he's not with us any more (Actually, is even that true? Wasn't there some kind of argument about who came up the wording, who stuck the label on the box, that kind of thing?).

To me it seems like the whole crux of the thing was that this was the kind of soul that people from the Northern end of England prefer, and that's why, as a musician/arranger/songwriter, I nearly fell off my chair when I read Ian's musical description of Northern soul way back about 15 years ago near the start of this thread. He appears to be dismissing about 75% of what I consider to be Northern Soul i.e. The kind of soul that I, as a northerner, like.

He's not alone. There are those who believe that NS begins and ends in the 60s, others who believe it can incorporate computer generated music without blinking, some think it lives on on the beaches of the Carolinas, others that it is defined by whether or not it's been played in an officially designated Northern Soul club (Joe 90?????), and recently I've found some citizens of a former colony who believe that it actually refers to any soul music created north of the Mason/Dixon line (Which somewhat ironically rules the Carolinas out).

I guess the fact is that we are a seriously fractured band of brothers and sisters who simply respect each others tastes even if we're not in 100% agreement over what it is we're listening to.

So why is everyone picking on Levine? He's hardly the only person on here who could start an argument in a telephone kiosk.

[Guest James Trouble]

Cheggers: And welcome back to Cheggers Plays Pop! We have another caller on the line, and it's, James Trouble again, welcome back James, but you've already been told by Ian 10 pages ago that he won't answer any questions from you unless you've read up on his complete history?

James Trouble: I've done that!

Cheggers: Ok then, so we must ask you a question that has to be answered correctly for us to be able to put through to Ian. So for your first question, at what age did Ian Levine first travel to America with his parents?

James Trouble: Mmmme, that woudl have been a couple of years after he had started to suspress his desires, so I'd have to guess at 15 years old?

Cheggers: Well done, what's your first question James?

James Trouble: Ian, thanks for taking my question, I first just want to tell you what an honour it is to be able to chat on the line with you. You're one of my heros, you're an inspiration to me and the reason I want to become a DJ when I grow up.

There seems to be a bit of a hole in the available history of your life around 1965 and 1968. Can you perhaps give me a bit more detail about your life in these years, which is not covered in the available press? And related to this, can I ask you about comments you made on soul-source, about how you were supressing your desires when you were around 12 and how that was all intertwined with your experience at school? And towards the end of this period, when you travelled to America for the first time, that woudl have been 1968, if I've done my homework, which month would that have been by the way that information is not available in the literature? And did you still have those confusions within about who you were that you mentioned on an earlier post and had you told your parents about them at this time? I guess in the late 60s homophobia was common place. It must have been very tough for you and must have put pressure on your friendships at the time? How did you deal with that? It must have taken some character to get through it?

I'm intersted in these years of your life and what influence they had on your musical direction, your drive and your ambitions. Do you think this difficult period shaped you into the man you are today?

Cheggers: Over to you Ian....

Edited August 25, 2008 by James Trouble

[Guest]

All contributers have to have read the complete volume of Ian Levine history, including third party interviews, and then I presume answer questions on Your history correctly, to be able to ask you questions, as long as they have not been asked elsewhere in cyber space before? Okay dockey...

Not all contributors

Just you.

[Guest]

thought richard and dave evison attended the mecca a few times.

mark

Nowhere near as much as Kev Roberts and Ian Dewhirst did.

[Guest James Trouble]

Not all contributors

Just you.

Okay dockey. I've done that.

So what happens now? Do you ask me a question about your history that is available in the press before I can ask you a question?

You're not changing the rules again, are you? You know we are goign to have get these rules straight once and for all, Ian. It's just not cricket otherwise.

You know, once we set up the "All About Levine" section and the various sub sections of that, we can't go changing forum rules every five minutes otherwise it would decend into chaos!

That woudln't be very constructive

Edited August 25, 2008 by James Trouble

[Guest fryer]

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[Guest]

And herein lies the whole problem that I personally, as a newcomer, have with this scene. No one actually seems to be able to agree on what IS Northern Soul. There is in fact only one person who could have cleared things up for us only he's not with us any more (Actually, is even that true? Wasn't there some kind of argument about who came up the wording, who stuck the label on the box, that kind of thing?).

I met Dave Godin in 1968, when I was fourteen.

I am pictured with him in the 1971 Blues And Soul when he came to Blackpool Mecca.

Whatever he may have decided later, and no matter what Ady Croasdell may say or think to the contrary, I can assure you that in 1970 and 1971 he coined the phrase "Soul Of The North" to basically identify the uptempo Motownesque, basically four on the floor, type of soul which was being played predominantly in clubs in the North of England, as opposed to the funkier James Brown type of soul that predominated the London Clubs.

It was a term to describe a musical genre, and was applied to brand new releases like Esther Phillips, Jackie Moore and Archie Bell, every bit as much as old releases that were being played.

In 1971, Record Corner, who supplied us all with our brand new US imports, created a section of their list called "Northern Soul". Terry Davis used this term to describe those records which sounded like Motown and were uptempo. Just as I use it NOW, thirty seven years later, to describe music that's new that still has that same basic intrinsic sound.

It most certainly NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER was used to describe a record purely because it was played up North, merely to describe an actual sound emanating from the record. Stuff like Dean Barlow and Romance Watson would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS have been referred to as Northern Soul.

And it strikes me that certain members of this list have subverted and twisted the meaning to describe what they want to mean, even to the exclusion of Motownesque uptempo records whose very existence SCREAMS the words Northern Soul.

NOT EVER.

[Guest]

He's not alone. There are those who believe that NS begins and ends in the 60s, others who believe it can incorporate computer generated music without blinking, some think it lives on on the beaches of the Carolinas, others that it is defined by whether or not it's been played in an officially designated Northern Soul club (Joe 90?????), and recently I've found some citizens of a former colony who believe that it actually refers to any soul music created north of the Mason/Dixon line (Which somewhat ironically rules the Carolinas out).

If it sounds like The Four Tops, "I Can't help Myself" or The Isley Brothers "This Old Heart Of Mine" then it's Northern Soul.

That's what it meant.

[Guest James Trouble]

I met Dave Godin in 1968, when I was fourteen.

Am I allowed to ask a question about this meeting?

[chrissie]

1970 and 1971 he coined the phrase "Soul Of The North"

......errrrrrrrrrrrrr, how can you coin a phrase twice i.e. 1970 and again in 1971

QoFxx

[Guest James Trouble]

......errrrrrrrrrrrrr, how can you coin a phrase twice i.e. 1970 and again in 1971

QoFxx

Once for each side of the coin, maybe?

Good question though, interesting.

Ian? Can you shed light on this important piece of history? I think we need to get this spot on. Nip it in the bud now before the confusion causes all sorts of problems in the future.

Edited August 25, 2008 by James Trouble

[Guest]

Can you perhaps give me a bit more detail about your life in these years, which is not covered in the available press? And related to this, can I ask you about comments you made on soul-source, about how you were supressing your desires when you were around 12 and how that was all intertwined with your experience at school? And towards the end of this period, when you travelled to America for the first time, that woudl have been 1968, if I've done my homework, which month would that have been by the way that information is not available in the literature? And did you still have those confusions within about who you were that you mentioned on an earlier post and had you told your parents about them at this time? I guess in the late 60s homophobia was common place. It must have been very tough for you and must have put pressure on your friendships at the time? How did you deal with that? It must have taken some character to get through it?

I'm intersted in these years of your life and what influence they had on your musical direction, your drive and your ambitions. Do you think this difficult period shaped you into the man you are today?

I went to a very old fashioned strict all boys school, the same one as Stuart Bremner.

Gym was called PT because we had an old army guy who took us through it like it was bootcamp. No underwear allowed under shorts, discipline dished out, etc etc

Rugby, again no underwear allowed, was called "Games" and was conducted in long wet muddy and icy cold conditions with the less athletic lads being mixed in with the skilled ones.

The school was exactly like the school in the film "If". I mean pretty near EXACTLY.

My mentor, Stuart Bremner, was a part time DJ at the Twisted Wheel, was fit and blond and sporty and handsome, and a prefect, and was two years older than me, and looked amazing in his white gym shorts. He taught me about Curtis Mayfield, The Fascinations, and Billy Butler when I was only fourteen and I guess I developed a crush on him, and what all this has to do with Northern Soul I have no idea, nor do I imagine anyone else on here is remotely interested in hearing such frank revelations about my schooldays.

In fact I can't believe I've just typed all this for a soul forum. It belongs elsewhere.

But we did all have an amazing school reunion eight and a half years ago, and got to live it all again for one day. It was even on BBC North West in May 2000.

[chrissie]

Once for each side of the coin, maybe?

Good question though, intersting.

Ian? Can you shed light on this important piece of history?

Just shows I am paying attention

QoFxx

[Guest]

You know we are goign to have get these rules straight once and for all, Ian. It's just not cricket otherwise.

No it was PT or rugby. Or cross country running in the summer.

[Guest]

That dx7 style bass is so soulful?

If you think that's a DX7 you're merely showing your ignorance.

[Guest]

I met Dave Godin in 1968, when I was fourteen.

I am pictured with him in the 1971 Blues And Soul when he came to Blackpool Mecca.

Whatever he may have decided later, and no matter what Ady Croasdell may say or think to the contrary, I can assure you that in 1970 and 1971 he coined the phrase "Soul Of The North" to basically identify the uptempo Motownesque, basically four on the floor, type of soul which was being played predominantly in clubs in the North of England, as opposed to the funkier James Brown type of soul that predominated the London Clubs.

It was a term to describe a musical genre, and was applied to brand new releases like Esther Phillips, Jackie Moore and Archie Bell, every bit as much as old releases that were being played.

In 1971, Record Corner, who supplied us all with our brand new US imports, created a section of their list called "Northern Soul". Terry Davis used this term to describe those records which sounded like Motown and were uptempo. Just as I use it NOW, thirty seven years later, to describe music that's new that still has that same basic intrinsic sound.

It most certainly NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER was used to describe a record purely because it was played up North, merely to describe an actual sound emanating from the record. Stuff like Dean Barlow and Romance Watson would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS have been referred to as Northern Soul.

And it strikes me that certain members of this list have subverted and twisted the meaning to describe what they want to mean, even to the exclusion of Motownesque uptempo records whose very existence SCREAMS the words Northern Soul.

NOT EVER.

Where's Tony Rounce ????

He's the only person on your whole list who was around at the same time and in the same places that I was, thirty eight years ago.

[chrissie]

He taught me about Billy Butler

Ahhhhhhhhhhh Mrs Butlers eldest, is he still DJing on Radio Merseyside sorry but I just couldn't resist

Taxi for chrissie

QoFxx

Edited August 25, 2008 by chrissie

[Guest fryer]

I met Dave Godin in 1968, when I was fourteen.

I am pictured with him in the 1971 Blues And Soul when he came to Blackpool Mecca.

Whatever he may have decided later, and no matter what Ady Croasdell may say or think to the contrary, I can assure you that in 1970 and 1971 he coined the phrase "Soul Of The North" to basically identify the uptempo Motownesque, basically four on the floor, type of soul which was being played predominantly in clubs in the North of England, as opposed to the funkier James Brown type of soul that predominated the London Clubs.

It was a term to describe a musical genre, and was applied to brand new releases like Esther Phillips, Jackie Moore and Archie Bell, every bit as much as old releases that were being played.

In 1971, Record Corner, who supplied us all with our brand new US imports, created a section of their list called "Northern Soul". Terry Davis used this term to describe those records which sounded like Motown and were uptempo. Just as I use it NOW, thirty seven years later, to describe music that's new that still has that same basic intrinsic sound.

It most certainly NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER was used to describe a record purely because it was played up North, merely to describe an actual sound emanating from the record. Stuff like Dean Barlow and Romance Watson would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS have been referred to as Northern Soul.

And it strikes me that certain members of this list have subverted and twisted the meaning to describe what they want to mean, even to the exclusion of Motownesque uptempo records whose very existence SCREAMS the words Northern Soul.

NOT EVER.

The meaning of many things/genres changes over time. And for different people it means different things depending when, how and who you got into with. I don't think it means anyone has got it wrong. From where i stand Northern Soul these days refers to a scene rather than a specific type of music. It may have been coined for something specific but does not mean that is set in stone. The person who coined it has the right to control and dictate its meaning it just evolved into something more general.

Edited August 25, 2008 by fryer

[Guest]

Am I allowed to ask a question about this meeting?

My first visit to London was in 1968. I went to the shop "Soul City" in Monmouth Street, and bought a copy of Chris Jackson "I'll Never Forget You" as well as some Motown for my collection. I met Dave Godin, David Nathan, Sylvia Nathan, and a very young Tony Rounce.

[Guest fryer]

If you think that's a DX7 you're merely showing your ignorance.

i don't know what specific keyboard it was as i'm not a musician. I do know that i dont like it though, id much rather listen to sharon jones and the dap kings or nicole willis or kgf.

[Guest]

......errrrrrrrrrrrrr, how can you coin a phrase twice i.e. 1970 and again in 1971

QoFxx

He did two major Northern Soul articles, Chrissie, and nothing was ever the same again.

The Wheel in October 1970 and The Mecca in the Summer of 1971.

[Guest]

i don't know what specific keyboard it was as i'm not a musician. I do know that i dont like it though, id much rather listen to sharon jones and the dap kings or nicole willis or kgf.

It's not a keyboard at all. It's a real live bass, played by a real live person, but stored on a sophisticated computer program

[Guest fryer]

It's not a keyboard at all. It's a real live bass, played by a real live person, but stored on a sophisticated computer program

what do you think of kings go forth, sharon jones and nicole willis, are you a fan ian?

Edited August 25, 2008 by fryer

[Guest]

The meaning of many things/genres changes over time. And for different people it means different things depending when, how and who you got into with. I don't think it means anyone has got it wrong. From where i stand Northern Soul these days refers to a scene rather than a specific type of music. It may have been coined for something specific but does not mean that is set in stone. The person who coined it has the right to control and dictate its meaning it just evolved into something more general.

Those of us who were there at the time don't like our heritage being subverted into a different meaning by the next generations.

[Guest Nik Mak]

That dx7 style bass is so soulful?

FANTASTIC Vocal, badly produced backing track. Horribley out of date. Shame.

[Guest]

what do you think of kings go forth, sharon jones and nicole willis, are you a fan ian?

Yes to Nicole Willis and the Soul Investigators. Fabulous, if under-arranged.

Absolute no to Sharon Jones. She leaves me cold.

[Guest]

FANTASTIC Vocal, badly produced backing track. Horribley out of date. Shame.

AAAAAAAAAAAARGHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!

Just listen to it and accept it for what it is, not what you want to change it into.

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[chrissie]

He did two major Northern Soul articles, Chrissie, and nothing was ever the same again.

The Wheel in October 1970 and The Mecca in the Summer of 1971.

Forgive me for being a little pedantic on this matter but surely the first article would of been when the phrase was "coined" so to speak and the second time just a re-issue ...

.....unless I mis-understand the meaning of the term "coined the phrase" as per my on line dictionary

coin (INVENT)

verb [T]

to invent a new word or expression, or to use one in a particular way for the first time:

Allen Ginsberg coined the term "flower power".

QoFxx

[Guest Nik Mak]

It's not a keyboard at all. It's a real live bass, played by a real live person, but stored on a sophisticated computer program

Cubase, pro tools or logic?????

[Guest]

Forgive me for being a little pedantic on this matter but surely the first article would of been when the phrase was "coined" so to speak and the second time just a re-issue ...

.....unless I mis-understand the meaning of the term "coined the phrase" as per my on line dictionary

The first time it was called "Soul Of The North".

By the time of the 1971 article it became "Northern Soul" as a term of commonplace use to describe the musical style.

Dave Godin even used to review Northern Soul records in his column in an attempt to educate us. He discovered The Charades as early as 1972. And Sandi Sheldon, but Rob Bellars had already turned it up at The Wheel.

[Guest]

Cubase, pro tools or logic?????

Logic

But we store whole sequences, so it's live, not just regurgitate notes like we did ten years ago.

Edited August 25, 2008 by Ian Levine

[Guest James Trouble]

In fact I can't believe I've just typed all this for a soul forum. It belongs elsewhere.

No, it's good stuff, it's filling in the gaps, thank you for time. In fact, I think there's probably scope for a subsection on your school years in the proposed "All About The Levine" forum.

So this fit lad you fancied, who span a few at the Twisted Wheel, if he hadn't have been cute in the gym shorts, do you think that you would have found the Twisted wheel? Are there any pictures of him from 1968 for the gallery?

Do you think the percieved adulation of those boys, at least one of whom you desired the affection and lust of, their apparant respect for you and the sensation and inflation of your ego, drove you onto to bigger and ever greater finds in later life as you sort to have this sense of acceptance from those you love and desire, but deepdown inside know that you will never have? Had you not had those early back slaps, the adulation, the ego rubbing at such a young and formative stage in your life, are the historians going to be able to speculate that you may not have had the drive to achieve more of the same throughout your grand history?

Is this the root of you repeat reappearences on the soul scene who's lust and affection you crave but can never achieve again? Perhaps you crave those early sensations, you need to be able to kid yourself that you have achieved the unachievable, finally been accepted for what you are?

I think this is probably the most intersting part of your history, these early years, and how you confused relationships with those you deisred at the time and connection with the early record finds has echoed throughout your life.

Could the historians in the future, perhaps even go so far as to speculate that had it not been for Bremner's tight gym shorts there may never have been a Levine Forum on soul-source and the depth of knoweldge that it is going to provide future generations may never have come to fruition?

Can I ask another question after this one please?

Edited August 25, 2008 by James Trouble

[Koolkat]

Cheggers: And welcome back to Cheggers Plays Pop! We have another caller on the line, and it's, James Trouble again, welcome back James, but you've already been told by Ian 10 pages ago that he won't answer any questions from you unless you've read up on his complete history?

James Trouble: I've done that!

Cheggers: Ok then, so we must ask you a question that has to be answered correctly for us to be able to put through to Ian. So for your first question, at what age did Ian Levine first travel to America with his parents?

James Trouble: Mmmme, that woudl have been a couple of years after he had started to suspress his desires, so I'd have to guess at 15 years old?

Cheggers: Well done, what's your first question James?

James Trouble: Ian, thanks for taking my question, I first just want to tell you what an honour it is to be able to chat on the line with you. You're one of my heros, you're an inspiration to me and the reason I want to become a DJ when I grow up.

There seems to be a bit of a hole in the available history of your life around 1965 and 1968. Can you perhaps give me a bit more detail about your life in these years, which is not covered in the available press? And related to this, can I ask you about comments you made on soul-source, about how you were supressing your desires when you were around 12 and how that was all intertwined with your experience at school? And towards the end of this period, when you travelled to America for the first time, that woudl have been 1968, if I've done my homework, which month would that have been by the way that information is not available in the literature? And did you still have those confusions within about who you were that you mentioned on an earlier post and had you told your parents about them at this time? I guess in the late 60s homophobia was common place. It must have been very tough for you and must have put pressure on your friendships at the time? How did you deal with that? It must have taken some character to get through it?

I'm intersted in these years of your life and what influence they had on your musical direction, your drive and your ambitions. Do you think this difficult period shaped you into the man you are today?

Cheggers: Over to you Ian....

You my friend are a shitstirrer methinks.

[Pete S]

Kev Roberts

Pep as well

[Guest]

Could the historians in the future, perhaps even go so far as to speculate that had it not been for Bremner's tight gym shorts there may never have been a Levine Forum on soul-source and the depth of knoweldge that it is going to provide future generations may never have come to fruition?

You are really sailing close to the wind, and if you think I'm going to let you send me up by using my own personal recollections, you have no idea who you're dealing with.

Do you really think I'm some sort of naive idiot ???

[Pete S]

Rock and Roll "type" records? do you mean earthy, beautifully arranged strings and brass, evoking emotion in your"SOUL" type records...Do you mean where it all began? Give me that, rather than where some people would have it end up!!

It began with rhythm & blues not Dean Barlow style pop crap, don't hold that up as some kind of beacon cos that record and all of it's ilk are a huge stain on the northern scene. Proper R&B is the roots.

[Guest James Trouble]

You my friend are a shitstirrer methinks.

Who you asking? Me, Ian or Cheggers?

Please, as has been said before, please keep this on topic and keep chit chat like this to the PMs. That's what they are there for.

[chrissie]

You my friend are a shitstirrer methinks.

No, he is just a mischeviously naughty misguided youngun..................ah what a wag that 12 yr old JT is

QoFxx

[Guest James Trouble]

You are really sailing close to the wind, and if you think I'm going to let you send me up by using my own personal recollections, you have no idea who you're dealing with.

Do you really think I'm some sort of naive idiot ???

No, I'm intersted in your character. It facinates me. I think the drive you have is remarkable, super human infact. Where does this come from? Ian, I'm just asking you a question, about what it is that has driven you to your achievements.

I havn't posted it in the wrong section have I? No it's the Ian Levine thread, I can see it at the top of the page.

Edited August 25, 2008 by James Trouble

[chrissie]

The first time it was called "Soul Of The North".

By the time of the 1971 article it became "Northern Soul" as a term of commonplace use to describe the musical style.

Dave Godin even used to review Northern Soul records in his column in an attempt to educate us. He discovered The Charades as early as 1972. And Sandi Sheldon, but Rob Bellars had already turned it up at The Wheel.

So in fact Dave Godin thought the soul scene oooooooop north was "so good he named it twice" and he coined not one but two phrases

QoFxx

[Guest]

Do you think the percieved adulation of those boys, at least one of whom you desired the affection and lust of, their apparant respect for you and the sensation and inflation of your ego, drove you onto to bigger and ever greater finds in later life as you sort to have this sense of acceptance from those you love and desire, but deepdown inside know that you will never have? Had you not had those early back slaps, the adulation, the ego rubbing at such a young and formative stage in your life, are the historians going to be able to speculate that you may not have had the drive to achieve more of the same throughout your grand history?

Since this started I have been warned about you.

I have been warned you see yourself in the role of the young buck challenging the old stag for leadership.

But the reality is that I pose no threat to you, as I have no wish to go back to DJing.

But your deep rooted problem is that you can't bear that, no matter how successful a DJ you may become, your name will never be linked as much in history in connection with Northern Soul, as the names Ian Levine, Colin Curtis, Richard Searling, Kev Roberts, and Russ Winstanley.

And that wrankles you, so you're trying to attack me by using my own recollections to demonstrate how insecure you see me.

But I'm not. I'm perfectly happy with my life and I love the records that I make. A few more chart hits would be nice, but I have sold millions in the past, and I'm much much happier making the music that I love than wasting my talent on some hopeless boy band who don't deserve it.

Enjoy your current DJing role, and show some respect for those who paved the way for you.

[Guest]

You my friend are a shitstirrer methinks.

And I have met some shitstirrers in my time, but never one as conniving as this one.

King of the shitstirrers methinks.

[Guest]

"Soul Of The North" to basically identify the uptempo Motownesque, basically four on the floor, type of soul which was being played predominantly in clubs in the North of England

Hmm a bit like House music you mean

[Guest]

Since this started I have been warned about you.

I have been warned you see yourself in the role of the young buck challenging the old stag for leadership.

But the reality is that I pose no threat to you, as I have no wish to go back to DJing.

But your deep rooted problem is that you can't bear that, no matter how successful a DJ you may become, your name will never be linked as much in history in connection with Northern Soul, as the names Ian Levine, Colin Curtis, Richard Searling, Kev Roberts, and Russ Winstanley.

And that wrankles you, so you're trying to attack me by using my own recollections to demonstrate how insecure you see me.

But I'm not. I'm perfectly happy with my life and I love the records that I make. A few more chart hits would be nice, but I have sold millions in the past, and I'm much much happier making the music that I love than wasting my talent on some hopeless boy band who don't deserve it.

Enjoy your current DJing role, and show some respect for those who paved the way for you.

He sounds too much like Paul "Trouble" Anderson to make it big

[Pete S]

Hmm a bit like House music you mean

Yes I can't help noticing how Motownesque house music is.

[Guest]

Pep as well

Yes indeed, Pete.

Most definitely Pep as well.