Jaco

Right at this very minute on my I-pod the fabulous Lenny Williams/Tower of Power - "Just when we start makin' it". One of my favourite vocalists.

Now I know this will be awesome.

One of the great soul vocalists. As stated above everybody should own "Friction" and "Genesis" by the Soul Children. "Poem on the school house door" remains, for me, a defining moment in gritty, southern soul. A sad loss indeed.

But I do care Russ, but not maybe as much as you. The oldies scene (without congas, okey-cokey,fancy dress) doesn't represent any major part of my soul scene but when it does I try and see it for what it is - a nostalgia scene for those people who want to enjoy themselves in whatever way they see appropriate, meet up with old mates, have a few beers and listen to the sounds of their youth. It doesn't upset me per se to see this scene diluting the ethics of the past scene and the current rare soul scene as I dont want to spend too much energy on the whys and wherefores of our seperate viewpoints. I am glad however that people like yourself and lots of other folk are prepared to stand by those values and continue to push the rare soul scene forward. On that basis I benefit from this continued policy as and when I attend such events for which I am grateful. Unfortunately the world view is likely to be predominately skewed by a 2 and a half minute YouTube clip.

I agree Steve. I was just curious how somebody who is considered to be previously on the fringe of the scene should be excluded from the current day scene, whichever element that is. The clip can be considered to be embarrasing but I'm not sure it represents anything other than a handful of people (on the face of it ) enjoying themselves at the end of one of the most popular weekenders. Had that not taken place Blackpool would have been reviewed by the vast majority of people who attend it as nothing more than a huge success as an oldies fest. Nobody would have mocked it, castigated Richard and Kev nor believed it represented the end of Northern Soul as we know it. Unfortunately that clip now seems to make the two scenes even further apart in their respective ethos.

And that precludes them on what ground?

Per R & B Indies : 1/2 The Lions - "No one (no one but you)/Giggles" 3/4 Frankie Lucas - "So long/Unknown" 3 Little Eddie Love - "There is a flame/Come running to me baby" 104 The Lions - "Til the 13th month/Girl of the world" 105 Margo - "Everyday/Unknown" 111 Hal Fisher - "Oh, what a sad affair/Unknown" 112 The Furys - "Zing! went the strings of my heart/Never more" 113 G Hodge - "Shoulder motion/Unknown" 114 The Furys - "If there's a next time/Another fella" 115 The Furys - "I really feel good/Always" 116 Verneta Lofton - "(You can't let the girl) overpower the woman in you/The power of love" 118 The Furys - "I lost my baby/What is soul"

Which one? There are 8 seperate listings in R & B Indies.

Yes - not to be recommended if an in-depth analysis is sought. It's an homage to a nice bloke by somebody who believes he deserves it.

Yes - well enough packaged and good to look at, but it is no more than a sequence of anecdotes and recollections from a plethora of scene stalwarts including artists, dj's, punters etc That is not a criticism as I really enjoyed it but it is not an in-depth analysis or time-line reference book for the scene. I suspect it was never meant to be, anyhow.

Date : Sometime in 1973 (vague I know) Event : Sale Mecca Thursday night (probably) - Levines first public play of the Carstairs Reason : Siesmic shift in the direction and sensibility of the Northern scene

Bobby Bland - San Diego 1987 Edwin Starr - The Basement Club Bury 1972 Jr Walker - The Stoneground, Manchester 1973? Bobby Womack - The International, Manchester 1992? Marvin Gaye - Manchester Apollo - 1974? Millie Jackson - Manchester Apollo - 1975? Hopeless with years but these all will live long in the memory.

The Shrine stock was lost in a fire in 1968 and is well documented. Google it and you'll get some info.

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Rodd Keith - "Gloria" Rodd Keith - "Like the Lord said" Can't think of another example of the same backing track for a different song by the same artist.

Not been back through all of the thread but has anybody mentioned: Harry Deal Athens Rogue Boston Hitsmen Jimmy Seals

Kev, Rest assured I'm sure the guys (me included) will do the right thing and keep you in the loop. Mike

There's an unknown 3688 (as in possibly not issued) but I bet it's not this one. Doesn't feature in any Jerry Butler discography either.

Bobby Sheen - "Sweet, sweet love" Richard Caiton - "I'd like to get near you" Hermon Hitson "You can't keep a good man down" Johnny Gilliam - Room full of tears" Chuck Cockerham - "Have I got a right"

119 Chuck Reed - "Conscience/Straight from heaven" 122 Roger Bibbinghof - "Over my head/My heart has grown old" 123 Berkeley Kites - "Hang up city/Lets get together" 126 Pat Minter - "Chamber of commerce/Dark roads" 143 Big John Hamilton - "Love comes and it goes/Breaking up is hard to do" 145 Berkeley Kites - "Willow run/Let me treat you like a woman" 153 Today's Children - "What next after the moon/Midnight strangers" 154 Larry and the Greatest of Ease - "High flying Hazel/Sweet savoury Susie" 155 Chelsea Caroll - "Hippie from Mississippi/Lonesome for you" 158 Larry Shell - "Maggie Brown/Unknown" All per R & B Indies.

Sorry - didn't notice "re-issue" in the question. 1974 was initial release date.

Columbia. 1974

"Intimate storm" - Shirley Brown LP if only to be able to hear "This love" for the last time.

Mp3 format - how do I get this from Refosoul?