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Hi all, first time poster here, hope I've come to the right place.

 

I have very little information on Moses Smith, other than his short output of great records.

Does anyone know much about him?

 

Here is what I have tracked down so far, if there is anything else PLEASE do let me know :-)

 

Thanks all.

 

The Girl Across the Street - DION 508 (1968)

01.The Girl Across the Street (3.03) - Tom Moulton Mix?

02.Hey Love, (I Wanna' Thank You) (2.55)

 

Keep On Striving - COTILLION 45-44075 (1970)

01.Keep On Striving (2.43)

02.Come On, Let Me Love You (3.10)

 

The Northern Side of Philly Soul (Compilation) - Jaime 4019 (2002)

01.Try My Love (2.15) (1968)

02.Try My Love (Instrumental) (2.15) (1968)

 

I also have this but not sure where it is from?:

The Girl Across the Street (4.12) - Original/Demo Mix?






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Bit more info here http://www.allmusic....98718/biography

"DON`T  PISS UP MY BACK & TELL ME  IT`S  RAINING"


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24 August 2013 - 04:40 PM
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I think that's a different Moses Smith? Also known as Moses 'Whispering' Smith??

 

http://en.wikipedia....ispering"_Smith



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I think that's a different Moses Smith? Also known as Moses 'Whispering' Smith??
 
http://en.wikipedia....ispering"_Smith

Ah right I just clicked on the Songs tab and the releases you listed above were listed.

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24 August 2013 - 04:47 PM
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No worries, most of the stuff I've found online are all miss-matched with the two!

 

Thanks though friend.


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Hi all, first time poster here, hope I've come to the right place.

 

I have very little information on Moses Smith, other than his short output of great records.

Does anyone know much about him?

 

Here is what I have tracked down so far, if there is anything else PLEASE do let me know :-)

 

Thanks all.

 

The Girl Across the Street - DION 508 (1968)

01.The Girl Across the Street (3.03) - Tom Moulton Mix?

02.Hey Love, (I Wanna' Thank You) (2.55)

 

Keep On Striving - COTILLION 45-44075 (1970)

01.Keep On Striving (2.43)

02.Come On, Let Me Love You (3.10)

 

The Northern Side of Philly Soul (Compilation) - Jaime 4019 (2002)

01.Try My Love (2.15) (1968)

02.Try My Love (Instrumental) (2.15) (1968)

 

I also have this but not sure where it is from?:

The Girl Across the Street (4.12) - Original/Demo Mix?

 

The long version of Girl Across The Street is from the same CD as above


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24 August 2013 - 05:24 PM
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Thank you! I wonder if it was some kind of original mix...



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Hi all, first time poster here, hope I've come to the right place.

 

I have very little information on Moses Smith, other than his short output of great records.

Does anyone know much about him?

 

Here is what I have tracked down so far, if there is anything else PLEASE do let me know :-)

 

Thanks all.

 

The Girl Across the Street - DION 508 (1968)

01.The Girl Across the Street (3.03) - Tom Moulton Mix?

02.Hey Love, (I Wanna' Thank You) (2.55)

 

Keep On Striving - COTILLION 45-44075 (1970)

01.Keep On Striving (2.43)

02.Come On, Let Me Love You (3.10)

 

The Northern Side of Philly Soul (Compilation) - JAIME 4019 (2002)

01.Try My Love (2.15) (1968)

02.Try My Love (Instrumental) (2.15) (1968)

 

I also have this but not sure where it is from?:

The Girl Across the Street (4.12) - Original/Demo Mix?

Was this a Mexican-American label?  :lol:  Or just a typo, which should have been spelt: "Jamie"?  I didn't know that Jamie Records was still in operation in 2002.  or, had it been shut down previously, and revived?



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24 August 2013 - 10:13 PM
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Oops! Just a typo Sir. Not sure what year that was released, some state it was 2002, other say it was '01.



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Just found a webpage with some detail of the Dionn label, by all accounts Moses Smith won a local singing contest at the Uptown Theater in Philadelphia as he signed for the label.

 

http://jamguy.com/dionn/

 

I've a feeling it could take a number of years to stick together some kind of history for this artist!



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Just found a webpage with some detail of the Dionn label, by all accounts Moses Smith won a local singing contest at the Uptown Theater in Philadelphia as he signed for the label.

 

http://jamguy.com/dionn/

 

I've a feeling it could take a number of years to stick together some kind of history for this artist!

Jamguy is Frank Lipsius, the son of the original Jamie / Guyden guy who also distributed numerous other labels (Arctic for instance).

He will be in the UK (again) in a few weeks with John Ellison.

He's available for radio / magazine interviews (he's promoting his big Arctic Records CD/ vinyl package still) whilst here.

Anyone interested can make contact with him via me if they like.

Whatever info is still around (from his father's old files or from his Philly contacts) on Moses Smith he will be able to pass along I'm sure.


Edited by Roburt, 25 August 2013 - 07:47 AM.


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25 August 2013 - 08:46 AM
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Thank you! I wonder if it was some kind of original mix...

 

Seems it was the original and they just edited it down - same with Pookie Hudson, Rotations and other tracks on that brilliant cd.


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Jamguy is Frank Lipsius, the son of the original Jamie / Guyden guy who also distributed numerous other labels (Arctic for instance).

He will be in the UK (again) in a few weeks with John Ellison.

He's available for radio / magazine interviews (he's promoting his big Arctic Records CD/ vinyl package still) whilst here.

Anyone interested can make contact with him via me if they like.

Whatever info is still around (from his father's old files or from his Philly contacts) on Moses Smith he will be able to pass along I'm sure.

 

WOW, excellent chance! PLEASE see if you can get ANY info on Moses Smith, any other releases? What become of him? Background? Etc...

 

Thanks so much for replying here, the marvel of the internet, can still bring us all together :-)


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25 August 2013 - 05:50 PM
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I always wanted to see a photo of Moses smith, does anyone have one?


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He also cut a version of "Tell It Like It Is" that never made it to vinyl

 

Des


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Evening Lewis!

 

Good to see you on here Fella :D  Must say I was surprised to see the name pop up!

 

Teresa/ Fu


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He also cut a version of "Tell It Like It Is" that never made it to vinyl

 

Des

Hi Des, neat, how do you know this?

Thank you.



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Evening Lewis!

 

Good to see you on here Fella :D  Must say I was surprised to see the name pop up!

 

Teresa/ Fu

HaHa, well well well, small world indeed...!

 

Thought this seemed like the place where the people in the know hung out, so took a plunge :-)

 

Hope all be well with you x


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I was listening to a podcast of Richard Serling doing a radio show on Smooth Radio today. It was a tribute to the Torch, Va Vas and other clubs from the past. He plays records associated with those clubs. In the show he refers to Moses Smith (following playing The Girl Across The Street) as being a white artiste from Philadelphia whom the record companies could recall nothing of. If so, how is it known he was white etc?
Is there now more known about this singer?

Regards.
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Hi there

 

Now, this could be a TOTAL red-herring, but a quick Google search brought me to a recent obituary of a Rev Moses Smith. OK... same name, fair enough.... BUT he was also a singer in The Heavenly Gospel Clouds. 

 

http://obit.funeraln...listing=Current

 

Cheers

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I think it's really unlikely that he was a white guy if he won a talent contest at the Uptown Theatre. Also the way he sings on his Cotillion single, plus the lyrics, makes me sceptical of that particular claim. All the other acts on Dionn would appear to be African-Americans and most of the signings came via the Uptown where George and Gilda Woods (famous Philly DJ and his wife who co-owned owned Dionn) hosted the talent shows.

 

The Woods' were prominent in black life in Philadelphia, including the Civil Rights movement. The idea they would get a white guy to sing "Keep On Striving" seems perverse.


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I think it's really unlikely that he was a white guy if he won a talent contest at the Uptown Theatre. Also the way he sings on his Cotillion single, plus the lyrics, makes me sceptical of that particular claim. All the other acts on Dionn would appear to be African-Americans and most of the signings came via the Uptown where George and Gilda Woods (famous Philly DJ and his wife who co-owned owned Dionn) hosted the talent shows.

 

The Woods' were prominent in black life in Philadelphia, including the Civil Rights movement. The idea they would get a white guy to sing "Keep On Striving" seems perverse.

 

I bow to your knowledge and view sir.

I'm only the messenger as to what Richard Sirling states (on this particular podcast - not holding him to anything here by the way).

Even with my limited ear for picking out the nuances of music, I would have thought Mr Smith was/is an Afican American. He does state he is going to "axe her out on a date" in TGATS.

 

Regards.

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Just found this snippet on the JamGuy site which I presume may be liner notes for the CD

 

http://jamguy.com/Moses_Smith/main.php


Some say it's a sign of weakness for a man to beg

Then weak I would rather be if it means having you to keep, 'cause lately I've been losing sleep


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I think it's really unlikely that he was a white guy if he won a talent contest at the Uptown Theatre. Also the way he sings on his Cotillion single, plus the lyrics, makes me sceptical of that particular claim. All the other acts on Dionn would appear to be African-Americans and most of the signings came via the Uptown where George and Gilda Woods (famous Philly DJ and his wife who co-owned owned Dionn) hosted the talent shows.

 

The Woods' were prominent in black life in Philadelphia, including the Civil Rights movement. The idea they would get a white guy to sing "Keep On Striving" seems perverse.

 

I bow to your knowledge and view sir.

I'm only the messenger as to what Richard Sirling states (on this particular podcast - not holding him to anything here by the way).

Even with my limited ear for picking out the nuances of music, I would have thought Mr Smith was/is an Afican American. He does state he is going to "axe her out on a date" in TGATS.

 

Regards.

Drew.  

 

Having said all of that I simply don't know the definitive answer and Richard Searling has forgotten more about soul music than most of us will ever know! All part of the fun.


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What about that Dionn single "Girl across the street" / "Try my love"?

Was that a legit release, or some sort of bootleg?

There's quite a few copies around, I thought they were from JamGuy records, but I'm not certain now.
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