Jump to content
  • Sign Up

Wigan Casino May 1980

Wigan Casino May 1980 magazine cover

Here is a very old review of Wigan Casino I did. We'd stopped going in 1978, and having heard one of Sam's spot's at Bedford, I decided to venture north once more recording the visit in Blackbeat. Usual health warning - please remember I was very young when I wrote this, but I wonder how many cover up's can be uncovered from this article.

From Blackbeat Issue 4

Wigan Casino May 1980 Review

 

My first visit to Wigan for over a year (it costs over 25 on the train for us). Firstly we sussed MP Cyril Smith on the train scoffing sandwiches (is this the Liberals solution to the problem of the EEC food mountains I ask?). By the time we reached Warrington I realized that things ain't what they used to be. In the old days we would have seen about 50 folk board the train complete with baggie trousers, bags covered in patches etc. Today however the soulies wear conventional clothes, just the same as you would see anywhere in the south. This was to be borne out by the fact that in the Casino itself there were only about three people in baggies. Most were wearing jeans, some straight, some zoots.

The next surprise was to be getting in. In the old days it was tightly packed pushing for about an hour and murder. The Casino still opens at 12.30, and there are still two doors open. However the attendance has dropped somewhat and that makes the getting in very easy it took me about five minutes.

They say things don't change and the Casino's atmosphere certainly doesn't. Of course Russ Winstanley was the first spinner. Russ seemed to be playing several pop cover versions of Motown numbers. Worse though was an instrumental of "Sweet talking guy". Unfortunately he played a couple of sounds that resembled Helen Shapiro. I thought we had got over all of that.

One of the most popular stompers for Russ was The Seeds "Pushing too hard" released in this country on Vocallion; it is a rock collectors classic and as such not fit for Wigan. With the upsurge in popularity for 70's dancers, Russ had to play some as well. Included in his spot were The O'Jays "I love music", Isaac Hayes "Disco Connection" and 21st Creation's "Tailgate" a sound I remember Colin Curtis playing back in 1977. "Disco Connection" is a monster at the Casino now. Also big for him were Barnaby Bye, and Johnny Williams "You're something kind of mellow", a Levine sound of a couple of years ago.

At 2.15 Richard Searling took over and the music changed to rare soul. Kick off sound was Frankie Karl and the Chevrons, a very popular record from the 60's, followed by the Delgado(?) cover up, and the now immortal Eddie Holman "Where I'm not wanted". We swung into the 80's with the very popular Skip Mahoney "Janice" and then back into the 70's with what surely is the best sound on the scene at the moment James Mack and The Chicago Gangsters "You're love pushed me over the top" cover up. That really packed the floor as did the Brainstormers c/u. After Al Johnson & The Hit Men's "Just ask me" came Oscar Perry and the very funky Lee More and the Resourceful Ones "You're love keeps me dancing. It was then back to the 60's for more covered sounds, (and non covered sounds) Frank Wilson, Bobby Kennedy, the Nomads incredible "Something's bad" and a great midtempo sound called "Dancing a hole in the world" by the suspect sounding Tony Hestor and the Detroit Delights Orchestra. The spot also included Vicky Baines "Country girl" which has been massive for two years now and the Joe Matthews c/u "I don't like to lose" rumoured to be the Orchid's on Kool Kat. Before retiring to the record bar I heard the other version of "Love slipped through my fingers" which gives Sam Williams a run for it's money. "He's so fine" the Judy Street cover up I didn't like.

Pat Brady was on next playing a mix of 60s and 70s sounds. Included in which were Eddie Jacobs Exchange "Can't seem to get you out of my mind" covered up as Ronnie McNeir, and the same as the 4 Tops, but judging by the ZTSC number it wasn't released until the 70s. The Frank Dell Band cover up, and the Volcanoes "Showstopper cover up; both went down well as did the slowest record of the night the Lou Brown c/u.

At about 4.45 Gary Rushbrooke took over playing The Sweet, which he insists on still calling "Chester Pipkin", Frankie Karl & The Chevrons again, The Salvadors pacey "Come on and love me" cover up and the very popular Velvet Hammer's "Happy" (not a cover up). From the 70's we had James Mack and the CG's again, and Wil Collins and Willpower from 1976 (again not a cover up).

I could not help noticing though how empty the place looked after about 4.00 with Mr M's open and the sleepers asleep parts of the hall were near on deserted with the dancefloor having fewer than 35 people on it at times a very saddening sight as one who can remember the Casino when it used to be packed. Anyway after a while Sam appears on the stage with his box (just about the only thing he has not got covered up), but then goes away again without having done a DJ spot.

Brian Rea then took over with some oldies. Popular were the real James (Jimmy) Mack and "My world is on fire" (which originally came out of a soul pack would you believe!), Billy Arnell, The Appollas "Mr Creator" and of course Billy Prophet. Old father Evison finished off "Burning spear" still proving popular along with the Fife Piper.

The Record bar, a shadow of it's former self, was quite bustling which surprised me. On sale were three E J Chandler's for a fiver each and three copies of Eddie Jacobs Exchange, as well as George Kirby for 5.

Having been round to a friend's that afternoon I heard how some guy had found a UK Hickory demo of "Queen of fools" at a record fair that morning. Well sure enough the same guy was at Wigan that night with the record on sale guess who he sold it too? Yes Keith Minshull for a tidy sum (for a sum reputed to be around 50).

All in all an enjoyable night to be had at the Casino still. The numbers are down on what they used to be, though one guy told me that they were up on what they had been (which makes we wonder the place must have been really empty).

There are spaces on the dancefloor where there never used to be and at times there are mighty big spaces too. With the exception of about five pop records from the oldies jocks and a few from Russ, I am glad to say that the musical content was 100% soul, being split about 65% from the 60s and 35% from the 70s / 80's. The most popular dancefloor packers seemed on the whole to be the newer sounds from the 70's.

The only thing that spoilt my enjoyment was the sadness reflected at how the place had lost so many regulars. Ironic really isn't it, the place is now more soulful than it's ever been, and the sounds played have never been better (nearly all soul), that the attendance is also at it's lowest ever.


More from Soul Source Magazine

  • Up vote 1

  1. 7 Day Lovers

  1. Article Comments

Forum Activity


Source Magazine Comments



Wiganer1 profile photo

Posted

 

 

=========

 

great reading steve

 

just love reading this stuff...

 

i wish id had been able to go that little bit earlier than i did to wigan but i dont think id have been into the sounds as much as i am now if i had

 

well done steve!

 

ps

 

 

 

u didnt tape the night did u lol???

grant profile photo

Posted

very similar to waht i could have written Steve, i stopped going for c12mth period between 79/80 and couldnt believe the emptiness of the place to what it used to be and the fact that i now felt like a stranger...all the faces i knew had gone, give or take the odd one or two...Craig (ginger haired lad cant remember exactly where he came from St Helens I think, he used to hang around with a lad called Pete from St Helens). The music had changed and i remember Frankie Karl being spun and not being too keen on it at the time!

Took my girlfriends cousin with us who was about 13 and got carpeted by Mike Walker in his office for sneaking him in :D ...let hime stay in the end but lectured me on the danger of his drink getting spiked! :(

still loved the place and hardly missed another niter there until it's closure.

Grant

Soulsmith profile photo

Posted

Steve, I'll tell you what Wigan was like empty in winter.........COLD!

Really COLD!

Wiganer1 profile photo

Posted

Steve, I'll tell you what Wigan was like empty in winter.........COLD!

Really COLD!

=======

i think alot of people didnt realise wigan was on every week sometimes twice,,what venue to continue to carry on like that these days?

i still it did well to do what it did and when it did,,and feel its justified with its place in history..

people just cant stop talking about it,,or is it just me????

probably...

lol

  • Up vote 1
Bjorn Nilsson profile photo

Posted

Here is a very old review of Wigan Casino I did...

Really interesting reading!

I love to read stories from old venues (especially Wigan!) that I never had a chance to go to and has taken almost mythical proportions. :D

Thanks Steve!

Guest profile photo

Posted

I stopped going to The Casino in 1975, couldn't stand the fuckin place...however there is no disputing that as a record breaking venue it will never be beaten...

Over the years lots of folk have sent me things via audio or email, some things that I'd never heard before just stink of 'wigan'

Today someone sent me a file, asking me if I know..Outside The City--The Willows...

The answer was..never heard it before but it has to be Wigan, doesn;t it????

Wiganer1 profile photo

Posted

I stopped going to The Casino in 1975, couldn't stand the fuckin place...however there is no disputing that as a record breaking venue it will never be beaten...

Over the years lots of folk have sent me things via audio or email, some things that I'd never heard before just stink of 'wigan'

Today someone sent me a file, asking me if I know..Outside The City--The Willows...

The answer was..never heard it before but it has to be Wigan, doesn;t it????

============

outside the city was an old allan rhodes spin at the casino paul circa 78/79 on mgm demo

a personal fave of mine,, gr8 track imo

regards

mark

  • Up vote 1
grant profile photo

Posted

I stopped going to The Casino in 1975, couldn't stand the fuckin place...however there is no disputing that as a record breaking venue it will never be beaten...

Over the years lots of folk have sent me things via audio or email, some things that I'd never heard before just stink of 'wigan'

Today someone sent me a file, asking me if I know..Outside The City--The Willows...

The answer was..never heard it before but it has to be Wigan, doesn;t it????

yep wigan Paul - Alan Rhodes spin MGM , one for sale if you want it :rolleyes:

sister dawn profile photo

Posted

Brilliant read that and thanks for posting, Kinda sad in a way too, that the place was in fact dying, sad to hear of pop records being played too.

TONY ROUNCE profile photo

Posted

Brilliant read that and thanks for posting, Kinda sad in a way too, that the place was in fact dying, sad to hear of pop records being played too.

...er. hang on m' dear, pop records were always played at Wigan, why should its policy in the dying days have been any different to its heyday?

This sounds like a night to have missed, though, and by anyone's standards. Thatnkfully Brother Guarnori was there so we didn't have to be :thumbsup:

TONE whistling.gif

Wiganer1 profile photo

Posted

...er. hang on m' dear, pop records were always played at Wigan, why should its policy in the dying days have been any different to its heyday?

This sounds like a night to have missed, though, and by anyone's standards. Thatnkfully Brother Guarnori was there so we didn't have to be :thumbsup:

TONE whistling.gif

======

which venues did u frequent tony?

how did they differ from wigan regards playlists etc?

not being sarky just interested

regards

mark

Guest profile photo

Posted

There was me thinking the casino was great right till the end! I wanted to attend in 1979 but my Dad said no... when I was 16. 1981 came and blow.. it closed.

If your reviews anything to go by it was a pretty sad decline.

Today however the soulies wear conventional clothes, just the same as you would see anywhere in the south. This was to be borne out by the fact that in the Casino itself there were only about three people in baggies. Most were wearing jeans, some straight, some zoots.

You could have been talking about today with that quote.. except for the word zoots.

Oh how I wish I'd been born 10 years earlier.

TONY ROUNCE profile photo

Posted

======

which venues did u frequent tony?

how did they differ from wigan regards playlists etc?

not being sarky just interested

regards

mark

Hi Mark,

I'm pretty much your first generation Northern fan, i.e. bog standard Mecca/Torch/Cats Whiskers/Ritz alldayers type of guy with the occasional Midlands foray thrown in for good measure. I didn't get a lot of pleasure out of my first trip to the Casino, with the result that I didn't have much inclination to go back there more than a handful of times during its entire history.

To be fair, by the time of Wigan's heyday and its eventual demise (and, indeed, by the time of Steve's review especially) I was probably too busy with my own DJing at weekends to want to be entertained too often by the man Winstanley and his merry crew. But a lot of my personal antipathy towards the Casino stems from the fact that it just wasn't, in my eyes at least, a welcoming venue. I never once had anything better than an average time there, and when you'tre not enjoying yourself especially you tend to only remember the bad points. Thus it is that, while I know for a fact that hundreds of great records were broken at the Casino in its lifetime, I tend to only think about the crappy pop stomp that dominated certain playlists back then in the name of soul.

However, the town of Wigan itself, was still a very pleasant place last time I checked - which was really not so long ago at that...

TONE whistling.gif

grant profile photo

Posted

There was me thinking the casino was great right till the end! I wanted to attend in 1979 but my Dad said no... when I was 16. 1981 came and blow.. it closed.

Dont listen to all the knockers Karen it was great til the end, and very sad to see it go...but as Mark says it is the biggest talked about subject on teh Northern scene, always will be! Dont mind some of these lads like on here that went and didnt like it and express their opinion, that's finer and it's a genuine view, however it makes me laugh when people who didnt go knock it because it played a few 'pop' tunes - pity your folks didnt let you go in 1979 as the music was top!

Grant

Guest profile photo

Posted

I was only 14 Grant whistling.gif I can see why my Dad wouldn't let me travel 300 miles on my own LOL... he could have bloody driven me there though huh! Parents!!

Paul r profile photo

Posted

...er. hang on m' dear, pop records were always played at Wigan, why should its policy in the dying days have been any different to its heyday?

TONE whistling.gif

Thing is Tone, as you know, pop records have always been played on the scene and still are as oldies & new discoveries. Unfortunately at Wigan there were periods when they appeared to be the norm and not the exception.

Paul

Dayo profile photo

Posted

Smashing read. For myself, I missed the latter days at Wigan. Sounded quite sad. I can't imagine it not being rammed.

Col

Soulsmith profile photo

Posted

Smashing read. For myself, I missed the latter days at Wigan. Sounded quite sad. I can't imagine it not being rammed.

Col

The saturday night after the monthly Oldies night on a Friday was dire.

No people, no atmosphere.

  • Up vote 1
in town Mikey profile photo

Posted

I was only 14 Grant ph34r.gif I can see why my Dad wouldn't let me travel 300 miles on my own LOL... he could have bloody driven me there though huh! Parents!!

I was 16 in 79 Karen, and the mates who had introduced me into Northern Soul had stopped going to Wigan 'cos its crap', so to my eternal regret I didnt bother going. Once I had visited Yate in October 1978 I dont think I missed one, and because it was so great I didnt feel I was particularly missing out on anything at the time...hindsight is 20/20 tho isnt it.

We also visited Swanage about that time and Birmingham Locarno? I think. I cant remember when Hinckley started but it must have been around then as well. So there was plenty of other places to get an allnight dose of Northern Soul.

SteveM profile photo

Posted

Hi Mark,

I'm pretty much your first generation Northern fan, i.e. bog standard Mecca/Torch/Cats Whiskers/Ritz alldayers type of guy with the occasional Midlands foray thrown in for good measure. I didn't get a lot of pleasure out of my first trip to the Casino, with the result that I didn't have much inclination to go back there more than a handful of times during its entire history.

To be fair, by the time of Wigan's heyday and its eventual demise (and, indeed, by the time of Steve's review especially) I was probably too busy with my own DJing at weekends to want to be entertained too often by the man Winstanley and his merry crew. But a lot of my personal antipathy towards the Casino stems from the fact that it just wasn't, in my eyes at least, a welcoming venue. I never once had anything better than an average time there, and when you'tre not enjoying yourself especially you tend to only remember the bad points. Thus it is that, while I know for a fact that hundreds of great records were broken at the Casino in its lifetime, I tend to only think about the crappy pop stomp that dominated certain playlists back then in the name of soul.

However, the town of Wigan itself, was still a very pleasant place last time I checked - which was really not so long ago at that...

TONE ph34r.gif

Towards the end, going to Wigan was mainly to hear Richard and Pat ( + Gary Rushbrooke ?). Winstanley and Minshulls playlists were generally dire, poppy and/or second rate.

When Richard became a bit of a fixture in South Yorks, you didn't need to go to Wigan to hear his one offs. Same when he was a regular at Stafford. Why travel when he, and Pat, were on your doorstep ?

grant profile photo

Posted

I was only 14 Grant :shhh: I can see why my Dad wouldn't let me travel 300 miles on my own LOL... he could have bloody driven me there though huh! Parents!!

used to sneak there when i was 15, so in 79 I'd been 17yrs old.....almost old enough to get in!! ph34r.gif

Guest Neil-ok profile photo

Posted

The saturday night after the monthly Oldies night on a Friday was dire.

No people, no atmosphere.

Yes it was quiet on the saturdays after the oldies nights but for the few who bothered it was like our own club, i remember one night it was nearly empty but most people knew each other and we made a night of it.

My first night at Wigan was very late 78 ish when i was 14.i though i knew what Northern Soul was(from the youth club scene)but i guess i really didnt.Most of my early days at the casino where spent getting knocked back buy the bouncers and Mrs woods but it really didnt matter i was there and most of the night was spent thinking of ways to get in and if you missed the rush(missing the chance to hide in the middle)it was down to pleading with Mrs Woods(bless her) or the bouncers but it was alway Mr Woods who let me seek in :shhh:

From then on Northern Soul became a big part of my life and and Wigan Casino something i cant forget even if i tried(not that i want to).

Yes it dropped off in the 80s and some djs pushed some dodgey cover versions onto us Al Johnson and the Hitmen,Top Cat and like Soulsmith said Chester pipkin whistling.gif but the soul was still there and it was a base to many.

Thanks for the Memories.

Winsford Soul profile photo

Posted

Yes it was quiet on the saturdays after the oldies nights but for the few who bothered it was like our own club, i remember one night it was nearly empty but most people knew each other and we made a night of it.

My first night at Wigan was very late 78 ish when i was 14.i though i knew what Northern Soul was(from the youth club scene)but i guess i really didnt.Most of my early days at the casino where spent getting knocked back buy the bouncers and Mrs woods but it really didnt matter i was there and most of the night was spent thinking of ways to get in and if you missed the rush(missing the chance to hide in the middle)it was down to pleading with Mrs Woods(bless her) or the bouncers but it was alway Mr Woods who let me seek in :lol:

From then on Northern Soul became a big part of my life and and Wigan Casino something i cant forget even if i tried(not that i want to).

Yes it dropped off in the 80s and some djs pushed some dodgey cover versions onto us Al Johnson and the Hitmen,Top Cat and like Soulsmith said Chester pipkin rolleyes.gif but the soul was still there and it was a base to many.

Thanks for the Memories.

Yes Neil. You and Dunc from Penketh, Causing me Grief with the punks coz i had to look after you KIDS :lol: The Punks picking on Dunc coz he was the little one. The good old days :lol: . Still loved those empty nights though mate as much as i loved the full ones.

Steve

Soulsmith profile photo

Posted (edited)

Ref article Steve, which I omitted to say earlier that I really enjoyed...

Do you have all the old Backbeats?

Assume you wrote this one, but isn't it about time you tracked and un-earthed your old sub-editor, Kev Griifiths?

I remember him being a really big character. He seems to have dropped off the scene entirely....

Edited by Soulsmith
Steve G profile photo

Posted

Ref article Steve, which I omitted to say earlier that I really enjoyed...

Do you have all the old Backbeats?

Assume you wrote this one, but isn't it about time you tracked and un-earthed your old sub-editor, Kev Griifiths?

I remember him being a really big character. He seems to have dropped off the scene entirely....

Yes I have all of the Blackbeats. As for Kev - he was a big ego :lol: if that constitues character :) Yes he lost interest in the scene many years ago.

Other points:

Yes Wigan did die a slow and lingering death numbers wise,

Yes Wigan usually played pop. First off the Soussan instrumentals and US pop records, but from Mid 77 the UK pop crapola from Mr W and Mr M. I think the window between 76-77 may actually have been the most soulful. Up until 1980 that is, as you'll see from the review I was generally enthused by the sounds being played. Russ W started playing things like Prince Buster after that, which is fine except it wasn't northern soul.

Back in that day it was interesting to see how much the fashion played a part. While we were still stomping about in Spencer loon pants in Kent and looking like a bunch of girls, the kids up north were dressing like the kids down south - it was really quite bizarre - hence my comments on the clothing. That was all part of it when we were kids, as was the sense of belonging to a scene.

Anyway glad a number of you liked it.....more anon....!!!

Guest Neil-ok profile photo

Posted

Yes Neil. You and Dunc from Penketh, Causing me Grief with the punks coz i had to look after you KIDS :thumbsup: The Punks picking on Dunc coz he was the little one. The good old days :D . Still loved those empty nights though mate as much as i loved the full ones.

Steve

Ste the mile dash from Wigan North Western to the Casino holds more memories than the Casino itself,it was hood up head down and run :P got caught a few times on the old railway/footbridge bridge next to Wigan North Western and got a kicking.

Dunc was always to pissed or off his head to feel it ste.....he still is :P .

Ste in the article Steve wrote it mentions the people getting on at Warrington bank quay that would have been us lot?(widnes/warrington/north wales crew) and i know what he means about the dress code i think coming into the 80s a lot of the old soulies ditched the old dress code(not just the new/young soulies)in one Casino dvd i have it shows the people in the Casino mainly dressed in 80s new wave gear it probably had somthing to do with the stigma of the 3 star jumper and birmingham bags that people used to ridicule.

Soul Shrews profile photo

Posted (edited)

Ste the mile dash from Wigan North Western to the Casino holds more memories than the Casino itself,it was hood up head down and run
:thumbsup:
got caught a few times on the old railway/footbridge bridge next to Wigan North Western and got a kicking.

Yes Neil-ok it could be a bit dodgy walking from the station to Station Rd.

Also remember hassle on the train from Crewe, travelling with some Wolves crew, some locals thought "Going to Wigan? This time of night ? Must have some cash or gear" so it hit's off.Could also be a bit dodgy in the Mr M's toilets!

Steve M, tried to quote you but for some reason "computer say's no" but yes towards the end we would travel to hear Richard S, Gary Rushbrooke, Pat Brady, and Soul Sam rather than Winstanley and Minshull. Manys the night we stayed in the motorway services(Sandbatch) playing pinball for an extra hour, so we could walk into Casino to the strains of Betty Boo "Say It Is'nt So"

Cheers Paul Woosnam

PS Seem to remember going to Stafford a couple of years later and hearing a blinding soul spot from Mr Minshull.

So good in fact that in the Black Echoes poll that year for "best newcomer" we filled in Kieth Minshull!!!

Edited by soul shrews
Winsford Soul profile photo

Posted

Ste in the article Steve wrote it mentions the people getting on at Warrington bank quay that would have been us lot?(widnes/warrington/north wales crew) and i know what he means about the dress code i think coming into the 80s a lot of the old soulies ditched the old dress code(not just the new/young soulies)in one Casino dvd i have it shows the people in the Casino mainly dressed in 80s new wave gear it probably had somthing to do with the stigma of the 3 star jumper and birmingham bags that people used to ridicule.

Yeah that was us lot mate. I even had a scrap on the train ( Widnes /Warrington shit). I must have been lucky with my punches never got a beating off anyone. I used to wear the pegs n shit like that in the last couple of years because as you rightly say the ridicule that went with the spencers etc, etc.

Steve

Guest Andy.. profile photo

Posted

Yeah that was us lot mate. I even had a scrap on the train ( Widnes /Warrington shit). I must have been lucky with my punches never got a beating off anyone. I used to wear the pegs n shit like that in the last couple of years because as you rightly say the ridicule that went with the spencers etc, etc.

Very sad to see it end at the time, but nothing lasts forever :thumbsup: .

A mate of mine is selling his leather Brouges (hope spelt right)

they have done about 50 odd hours on the Casino dance floor

E-Bay anyone---SIZE 3

Steve

polyvelts profile photo

Posted

I only got into northern in 1980 and only went to the casino for the friday oldies which were rammed, incredible atmosphere and unforgetable, this was with a much older crew who had pretty much reduced their soul outings. Was shocked when I took my girlfriend up to the 500th niter how empty it was compared to the Friday Oldies ! God knows what it was like mid 81 on a Saturday night !

macca profile photo

Posted (edited)

makes nice reading. I first went up there at the beginning of 1975 & thought it awe inspiring. the beachcomber was open beforehand, so I had the opportunity to watch the older geezers 'warming up', cue mr.donnelly & the spinning leg routine. priceless! :thumbsup: I didn't return till 1977, favouring at that time the all-nighters at st.ives, I'd agree with Tone that wigan wasn't all that a welcoming place, a little on the 'heavy' side & perhaps a little sordid too, but awe inspiring nonetheless. a handful of visits in 1978 confirmed my suspicions about the place. I had a sabbatical in 1979 basically 'cos the girl I was going out with wasn't having any of it. sad git! the things you do for love. I returned in 1980, mainly on oldies nights, finding the place generally as steve described it. further visits, maybe half a dozen, early to mid 1981 closed the chapter for me really. I couldn't face the 'last night' scenario & by that time had thoroughly lost interest in the place, preferring to go down to the smoke, west hampstead & 100 Club. I would sum up wigan by saying that it could be both gobsmacking & downright depressing, sometimes on the same night!! my everlasting memory of the place is heaving in 1975, with people dancing to larry santos & johnny vanelli. pop records? :yes:

Edited by macca
Guest profile photo

Posted

the beachcomber was open beforehand, so I had the opportunity to watch the older geezers 'warming up', cue mr.donnelly & the spinning leg routine. priceless! :yes:

You don;t have to spin a 100mph to be noticed macca, you should know :D though one night according to Steff M i stopped the place cold stone dead... :thumbsup:

macca profile photo

Posted

you're right, it was entrancing, you stood out amigo, among all the clitheroe, st.helens & bolton mafia was PD givin' it some & then some more. memorable stuff. what I couldn't understand was how you could keep up such a pace till the wee wee hours. but then again I was an innocent lamb from stanground in a lime green bowling shirt. s'truth....

Guest Netspeaky profile photo

Posted

Regards the pop tunes played at the casino, I think most people have sellective memories or don't want to admit that they danced/collected them at the time they were being played. I did, I didn't know any better at the time, and to be perfectly honest they sounded great back then maybe not now, but they hit the button back then, anybody who disgrees is not being totally honest with themselves. They had to be popular to be played simple as that, and if you look at weekly play lists and listen to old tapes they come thick and fast. Another fact is that lots of the classics still being played are white pop artists, we just pick and choose what is acceptable a little differently today. :D:yes: Casino member from 73 til close.

soulsalmon profile photo

Posted

Regards the pop tunes played at the casino, I think most people have sellective memories or don't want to admit that they danced/collected them at the time they were being played. I did, I didn't know any better at the time, and to be perfectly honest they sounded great back then maybe not now, but they hit the button back then, anybody who disgrees is not being totally honest with themselves. They had to be popular to be played simple as that, and if you look at weekly play lists and listen to old tapes they come thick and fast. Another fact is that lots of the classics still being played are white pop artists, we just pick and choose what is acceptable a little differently today. :(:yes: Casino member from 73 til close.
Agreed ,innocence of youth and widely available amphetamines.Salmon :D
  • Up vote 1
Mike profile photo

Posted (edited)

This article has just been featured via the front page soul source highlight boxes

Edited by mike
Guest profile photo

Posted

On 18/08/2006 at 10:22, Soulsmith said:

 

 

 

The saturday night after the monthly Oldies night on a Friday was dire.

 

No people, no atmosphere.

They should never of started those Friday oldies allnighters. 

They were popular I know, but they spoiled the rhythm of the weekly Saturday allnighters!

Winsford Soul profile photo

Posted

1 hour ago, solidsoul said:

They should never of started those Friday oldies allnighters. 

They were popular I know, but they spoiled the rhythm of the weekly Saturday allnighters!

Got to disagree. The oldies nighters had a very different buzz about them probably because they where monthly and attracted a different crowd of the slightly older people who had  by then stopped going the regular Saturday night's. Used to love it , once a month two nighters in one weekend and when it was a bank holiday a alldayer on the Sunday. Heaven.

Steve

  • Up vote 1
crazylegs profile photo

Posted (edited)

 

1 hour ago, Winsford Soul said:

Got to disagree. The oldies nighters had a very different buzz about them probably because they where monthly and attracted a different crowd of the slightly older people who had  by then stopped going the regular Saturday night's. Used to love it , once a month two nighters in one weekend and when it was a bank holiday a alldayer on the Sunday. Heaven.

Steve

Me and me boy here wholeheartedly agree!

x

Edited by crazylegs
  • Up vote 1
Carty profile photo

Posted

 Remember the  Saturdays  in 1980 well , and the contrast to the oldies allnighters  which were unmissable ( attended every one from Feb 76 to June 81 ) Never really realised at the time that the place was dying and arguably , the oldies allnighters may have been a factor , as has been commented earlier ( ten years earlier )                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The record bar had become a kind of social club and there were weekly rumours of the place being shut down. Some  sounds  I remember from that time ,  Pacesetters ( Admirations ) You left me , saw several copies for sale  for £25.00 at that time,  The Other Ones ,   The Two Of Us .   Frank Foster , Harlem Rumble .  Arin Demain  Silent Treatment, L  Allen  , Cant we talk it over.  Lockettes  I Love the boy who lives next door ,     They all take me right back to those nights whenever I hear them .                                                                                                                                                                                               A t one point , mid to late 1980 i think , the  Mecca    Highand room had re opened for 8 till 2 sessions on a Saturday night  so that was a regular starting point before Wigan  once again . Remember getting lifts over to  Wigan from Blackpool and arriving at maybe 1.30 to find the outside deserted ,but a warm welcome always awaited inside .  another sound from those days as mentioned earlier     Volcanoes    ( Cashmeres )    Showstopper .     There was a guy that used to go in the record bar round about that time who used to stand on a chair and announce what he had for sale like a market trader , anyone remember him? ( bet hes a regular on here ).    

  • Up vote 1
Dean profile photo

Posted

Joe Matthews c/u "I don't like to lose" rumoured to be the Orchid's on Kool Kat. 

Don't remember that rumour . . . . .  .I think it really is Joe Mathews

Steve G profile photo

Posted

5 hours ago, Dean said:

Joe Matthews c/u "I don't like to lose" rumoured to be the Orchid's on Kool Kat. 

Don't remember that rumour . . . . .  .I think it really is Joe Mathews

Hmmm, must have got that tit-bit from someone, but can't remember who now, presumably some collector at the time, and God knows what the "Delgado c/u" was….must have mis-heard Richard on the mic.  :wink:

 

Tony Smith profile photo

Posted

The Orchids - Kool Kat was a definite "true" rumour, along with it's upcoming release on Grapevine!! 

Jerry Hipkiss profile photo

Posted

7 hours ago, Tony Smith said:

The Orchids - Kool Kat was a definite "true" rumour, along with it's upcoming release on Grapevine!! 

Yes, along with "a missing number from the Impact label"...think it was from an article in New Soul Time...

Tony Smith profile photo

Posted

Dave McCadden may have something to do with it, Richard played along with it for sure....

Chalky profile photo

Posted

Just found a live tape of Richard at Wigan the month before this article which I'm now transferring to the PC.

Mark Soul profile photo

Posted

dave mccadden blast from the past good lad was dave cheers mark

Chalky profile photo

Posted

20 minutes ago, chalky said:

Just found a live tape of Richard at Wigan the month before this article which I'm now transferring to the PC.

The tape has the first ever play on it of No Time "Spyder Turner & The Webs"

soultronic profile photo

Posted

other side not too shabby either [cant get over these memories] went to the Casino as a lanky fourteen year old for round about the last eighteen months. Great revue of the time from Steve . Been to so many clubs in the decades since but the casino holds a special place in my heart for a multitude of reasons.

shorty

  • Up vote 1
Steve G profile photo

Posted

On 1 April 2016 at 09:39, Tony Smith said:

The Orchids - Kool Kat was a definite "true" rumour, along with it's upcoming release on Grapevine!! 

Thanks for confirming. We didn't have anything like the knowledge then that we have now.

  • Up vote 1



Source Magazine - Add Your Take!

Comment on our articles via...

Join Soul Source

A free & easy soul music affair!

Get started now!
Log into Soul Source

Get full use of the magazine feature

Log in now!

Related Soul Music Links



×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.