Who coined the term 'newie'? does come from the stafford era or before? what were the first tunes to be turned newies?

any opinions ideas welcomed.

I started going to the casino as a young spotty sprog in mid 80' and it was well in use then.

We were calling Searlings big stuff in 78/79 such as The Group, Vickie Baines etc "newies" as opposed to what such as Dave Evison would be playing. Not sure if the term was used before that cos I was too young

I remember newies being used at Wigan 80/81, especially to differentiate from the Friday oldies nighters. It wasn't until Stafford though that i heard the term '60s newies'

Started to hear the term 60s newies around 84/ 86 i guess at the Warrington all niters... We thought the term was coming froom the sounds at Stafford..

Its the 60s newies as they were called that really took us deep into the soul scene...

I remember newies being used at Wigan 80/81, especially to differentiate from the Friday oldies nighters. It wasn't until Stafford though that i heard the term '60s newies'

The word newie or new=sound was always used to call a new discovery when first pl;ayed, even in 1971 when I first went to a N.S. do.

The 60s newie is from the 80s like Matt says. I never did Stafford, but Guy used to say to me come down and hear some great 60s newies.

When I stopped going to the Casino in 78 it was either "top sounds" or "big sounds" versus "oldies".

I remember Keb being billed as 'Keb och aye the newies' at a Buzzard allnighter circa 1985..

thanks for all ho've responded, fascinating to get a glimpse in tom the language used back in the day, I first heard it used on the old grey whistle test, around 85? when they did a feature on Blackburn allnighters, just a s i was getting into it.

No one on the soul scene coined it though someone obviously brought it in at some point, probably from mainstream DJ culture and before that from general slang.

Merriam-Webster has it meaning "something new" going back to 1834.

https://www.merriam-w...ictionary/newie

Merriam-Webster has it meaning "something new" going back to 1834.

https://www.merriam-w...ictionary/newie

The conversation in that dictionary office 170 years ago probably went something like:

"Hey Ed, I've got a newie to put in."

"What's a newie?"

"I dunno. This is why we need it in."

Attic lads will bear me out on this one, 90-95% of the Mansfield lot stopped attending Wigan around 1976-but when Wigan Oldies nighters started the general talk in the |Swan was Q "Are you going up Wigan" A-"Is it the Oldies or Newies all-nighter" -Q err "Newies" A "Nawww I only like Oldies"--( Dare I say it this included Jim Wensiora, Rob Marriott and Wack-who were regulars at the oldies but never ventured to the Saturday night -until Searling started getting brilliant around late 77/78 !)

Rob

Attic lads will bear me out on this one, 90-95% of the Mansfield lot stopped attending Wigan around 1976-but when Wigan Oldies nighters started the general talk in the |Swan was Q "Are you going up Wigan" A-"Is it the Oldies or Newies all-nighter" -Q err "Newies" A "Nawww I only like Oldies"--( Dare I say it this included Jim Wensiora, Rob Marriott and Wack-who were regulars at the oldies but never ventured to the Saturday night -until Searling started getting brilliant around late 77/78 !)

Rob

I blame Sean Hampsey .....

Malc Burton

I recall that it was a term that used to annoy quite a few folk (Morecambe attendees rather than the more avant-garde Stafford I suspect). 'Newies! What the f*** does that mean?' or 'You can't dance to half of them' were the usual criticisms.

I first herd the tearm as we know it in 74 (a) to describe certain Blackpool Recrds such as Marvin holmes and Justice "You better Keep Her" or the Carstairs, ( as poeple wanted to her some of the great "OLDIES" that did not get played the tearm "OLDIES" was use to describe these sounds and as day follows night? "NEWIES" started to be used so in gen tearms I would say 1974 is the year. however collectors have always used the tearm to tell others of their new find, this leads on to the word "DISCOVERIES" DAVE KIL

Attic lads will bear me out on this one, 90-95% of the Mansfield lot stopped attending Wigan around 1976-but when Wigan Oldies nighters started the general talk in the |Swan was Q "Are you going up Wigan" A-"Is it the Oldies or Newies all-nighter" -Q err "Newies" A "Nawww I only like Oldies"--( Dare I say it this included Jim Wensiora, Rob Marriott and Wack-who were regulars at the oldies but never ventured to the Saturday night -until Searling started getting brilliant around late 77/78 !)

Rob

I didn't know Rob Marriott started out as more a fan of the oldies nights but I think you've nailed it there Rob. Still you do have the advantage of actually having been there.

Oldies in Mr.M's as against newies or even biggies in the main room. "60's newies" was the obvious term to employ toward end of 70's and early 80's to differentiate those sounds from the preponderence of 70's stuff getting plays but the emphasis in that particular phrase was on the "60's" and not really used to contrast 60's oldies with 60's new discoveries or 60's current biggies.

ROD

I first heard the term Newie when I first started out late 78. This was from the older Eastwood lads who had this has a catch all term for anything modern / 70s sounding. Still see comments from Returnees today who left around this era terming 70s / modern as Newies.

60s Newies - stafford. But we all know that.

I didn't know Rob Marriott started out as more a fan of the oldies nights but I think you've nailed it there Rob. Still you do have the advantage of actually having been there.

Oldies in Mr.M's as against newies or even biggies in the main room. "60's newies" was the obvious term to employ toward end of 70's and early 80's to differentiate those sounds from the preponderence of 70's stuff getting plays but the emphasis in that particular phrase was on the "60's" and not really used to contrast 60's oldies with 60's new discoveries or 60's current biggies.

ROD

Rob Marriott had a very good apprenticeship on the Northern scene,he didnt have much choice regarding oldies he was listening to Wheel/Torch & Motown stuff from the age of 11,,, 1970 onwards, much like myself.His brothers Ivor & Chris were bringing into their house new tunes nearly every week at that time.Chris still has alot of those tunes he payed 50pence for in the 70ts all original!.

Rob Marriott had a very good apprenticeship on the Northern scene,he didnt have much choice regarding oldies he was listening to Wheel/Torch & Motown stuff from the age of 11,,, 1970 onwards, much like myself.His brothers Ivor & Chris were bringing into their house new tunes nearly every week at that time.Chris still has alot of those tunes he payed 50pence for in the 70ts all original!.

Yes I knew Chris and Rob well and neither of them were into oldies IMO other than they had oldies from the time they weren't I guess, which is why I was surprised by Rob Wigley's comment. Couldn't imagine either at a predominantly oldies do at the time unless the sales boxes were better.

ROD

Edited July 25, 200916 yr by modernsoulsucks

Yes I knew Chris and Rob well and neither of them were into oldies IMO other than they had oldies from the time they weren't I guess, which is why I was surprised by Rob Wigley's comment. Couldn't imagine either at a predominantly oldies do at the time unless the sales boxes were better.

ROD

I'm in agreement with you there Rod, the only "Oldies" that Rob was into was rare soul and whatever 60's newies were called before they were thus named! Mind you he did love classic stompers..is that another thread.

Who coined the term 'newie'?

I did

Who coined the term 'newie'?

I did

No ya didn't. I did. 4th March 1971. So there!

Ian D