Just woke up and after my initial posting on the night i feel more needs to be said as some of you just dont get it yet.

The "rare room" as one of you put it at no time was as you say banging and it really does need to stay in the "other" room and not make it to the main room. The main room last night was the way it was because it stuck to the tried and tested method of playing well known kick ass oldies. I may well be stuck in the past but the thing is the past works!!

You know as well as i do that if anyone DJ last night strayed from the "oldies" path they would have cleared the floor, thats why even Butch never bothered in trying "new" stuff on the main hall. Quality set of quality oldies he played : Al Kent/Tommy Bush the ones for me that really got me movin' and a groovin'.....and you know what?? i know he loved every minute of that main hall. The guy has records and knowledge of records that most could and only ever dream of.......but a simple set of back to the basics worked!!

Dedicated nighters for the rare and underplayed stuff exist for that purpose and IF there is any sounds that are good enough to live in the oldies sets of main stream dj's then spot on, but dont ram them down our throats because a dj has payed X amount of £'s so it must be good.........wrong, yes it may well be rare and yes in a collectors market fetch alot of money but those two factors dont mean that the 45 is any good and even deserve to be played at any nighter.

Kings Hall is what it is and it has tried to cater for all tastes over the years but last night i got a sense that it finally got it as well, proper oldies kick ass and make a venue of its status what it should be everytime it opens its doors, and thats a sweaty culdrum of hundreds of souls having a stormer.

Last night was one of the best nighters i have EVER been to and i been going 27yrs....i know what i like and what i dont like, at the time Stafford struck the same cord with me although i went to most of them purly because the upstairs oldies room was ace, having said that most of the stuff played in that main room Have crossed over into main stream dj's sets and thats because they was still quality dance toons that very easily were able to stand the test of time, but here is the main point about todays "new" stuff, it just has not got that bish bosh wollop you will fookin dance kind of thing going on except the odd one or two unlike Staffords majority of stuff that was played.

I am only trying to be sensible on here these days cause they have made Steve Cato a moderator, and he is my mate.

But...................

It would be nice to be able to get out on the scene more often again and see why every body is so hung up about soul music these days !

Soul music and collecting is something I personally love - I just feel quite sad when I see people chopping up Soul music into different camps.

I just like Soul tunes man !

New things I always listen to with a open ear..............big oldies...I have fooking loads of favourites.

If soul music could talk...........it would have a few things to say about our twisted scene ! IMO

M

indeed Mossy.... i love it all and don't like the different camps but i think its an age thing, as some get older they have less tollerance of things.. I too am guilty of that i guess....

Don't hold back on my account mate..... i am only trying to keep the topics flowing in this section.. I aint the soul police just yet...

indeed Mossy.... i love it all and don't like the different camps but i think its an age thing, as some get older they have less tollerance of things.. I too am guilty of that i guess....

Don't hold back on my account mate..... i am only trying to keep the topics flowing in this section.. I aint the soul police just yet...

Tong in cheek there ........... when I said I was trying to be sensible !

My posts on here about Soul Music tonight are heart felt and honest.

But I will give you loads of shit on here very soon when I am pissed and out of it !

Just ask Mike !

But that's my personal unpredictable problem with alcohol.

M

Tong in cheek there ........... when I said I was trying to be sensible !

My posts on here about Soul Music tonight are heart felt and honest.

But I will give you loads of shit on here very soon when I am pissed and out of it !

Just ask Mike !

But that's my personal unpredictable problem with alcohol.

M

hmmm alcohol !!!

hmmm alcohol !!!

I think we have gone off topic !

hmmm alcohol !!!

Maybe this lot should be called in to sort everyone out

https://www.kevinhealy.co.uk/the_soul_police.html

I think we have gone off topic !

ok i will admit to that (. BUT i had already gave a proper reply

Edited March 9, 201015 yr by Gogs

ok i will admit to that (. BUT i had already gave a proper reply

i know ....... xx

i dont slag people off or abuse them in anyway but please get a brain cell.

Brilliant

and this to someone who has just studied for, and successfully obtained, a Degree.

Sums it up really

Bottom line of what you were saying was that 'Kings hall', for you is how all promoters should run their nighters.

Surely this comes across as a tad disrespectful of those promoters who know how to run their nighters and are aware that they could fill the places by playing 100 mph oldies, but choose not to. They choose to run their nights for the soul they enjoy and to push the boundaries in the sprit of 'Northern Soul' not commercialism.

I agree and i think that the original post was aimed at Sian & Dean who promote Rugby cos he was there the other week and someone dared play something other than 100 mph Oldies and he didnt like it and slagged off the dj and promoters and also the other room that he never even went in and called anything that dont satisfy his needs "Utter Rammel", im just so fooking glad that all soulies are so fooking ignorent and down right rude and offensive as this fella oops sounds like i am now though

Brilliant

and this to someone who has just studied for, and successfully obtained, a Degree.

Sums it up really

I take it it wasn't in English as I assumed the offence was taken because of his illiterate way of putting across his point.

Do they do degrees in rudeness now...

Sorry, no need for me to be bitchy.

Actually Daz, I like the fact that you are obviously passionate but the nastiness leaves a bitter taste in the mouths of the "others" who are trying their best to provide a service to the punters.

I love the fact that their are so many different venues out there, it also means you can choose where to go (if you don't like it, don't go)...

some of you just dont get it yet.

So another topic comes towards its end and we are no closer to finding the meaning of soul ...

One thing that Daz said i think is important... The atmosphere at all niters...

Nothing worse than seeing a room slowly die and nothing like the feeling of seeing a full dance floor at the last record...

Not all niters can offer this anymore for different reasons i guess....

Multi room all niters are the way to keep all happy but its a real shame we can't all be in that same big room sometimes, seeing the huge dancefloor bursting with dancers, thats the kind of magic that cast a spell on me all those years ago...

The problem is finding the music formula that will bring us all together and keep us happy, thats the holy grail and out of reach for many, so we have a mass of different events to cater for all our needs...

This debate is not just a new v old debate though with regards to music and the scene, its a debate about all niters only and how to keep the magic going throughout the night..

As we said before, its good that promoters offer a choice or it would be civil war

Dazdakin I'm glad you had a great night at Stoke so did I.

If your musical journey begins at Wigan and ends in stoke then I can respect that, every one to their own.

I kinda guess every one on this list started their own personal journey at venues like the Casino or similar? My journey started the same way as you but I am still riding this freedom moped baby and I do not know where it is gonna take me! I have no helmet on and I lost one of my socks a mile ago!

Stoke is rammed, smiling faces every were and people having a great time dancing to great music, its kinda like a mobile Northernsoul museum, and I don't mean that in any derogatory way, but it is night of glorious nostalgia.

The Northernsoul Scene, as you know, has progressed, you may not feel comfortable with most of the track and you may not like to dance to stuff you don't know but there is a healthy cadre of soul fans who attend the allnighters up and down the country eager to listen, dance and appreciate those who have dusted off, unearthed or taken a punt on some thing new or underplayed, of course there are certain tacks that don't work but honest mate there are enough allnighters with busy dance floors to show that Northernsoul is alive and very well thank you.

Just so there are no hard feelings please enjoy this clip;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtPBBngxYG0

Edited March 9, 201015 yr by ImberBoy

Just woke up and after my initial posting on the night i feel more needs to be said as some of you just dont get it yet.

The "rare room" as one of you put it at no time was as you say banging and it really does need to stay in the "other" room and not make it to the main room. The main room last night was the way it was because it stuck to the tried and tested method of playing well known kick ass oldies. I may well be stuck in the past but the thing is the past works!!

You know as well as i do that if anyone DJ last night strayed from the "oldies" path they would have cleared the floor, thats why even Butch never bothered in trying "new" stuff on the main hall. Quality set of quality oldies he played : Al Kent/Tommy Bush the ones for me that really got me movin' and a groovin'.....and you know what?? i know he loved every minute of that main hall. The guy has records and knowledge of records that most could and only ever dream of.......but a simple set of back to the basics worked!!

WHY bother hiring Butch then...whats the point of booking a guy who has INCREDIBLE records that you havent heard and would probably like, to play an oldies set that quite a few djs could do...what is the point? Butch must be bored s---tless in the UK..the apathy, same old same old. Ive seen him dj abroad and he does mindblowing sets (stuff you havent heard) and looks like hes having a great time doing it. Thing is in the rest of europe they respect him and his taste and allow him to play what he wants and from that their scene grows. Back to basics? Get a back to basics DJ...theres loads of them and leave Butch alone ...poor guy.

Just pondering on how interesting your weekends would be when last weekend sounds the same as the weekend before, and the one 27 years before that.....

Dazdakin I'm glad you had a great night at Stoke so did I.

If your musical journey begins at Wigan and ends in stoke then I can respect that, every one to their own.

I kinda guess every one on this list started their own personal journey at venues like the Casino or similar? My journey started the same way as you but I am still riding this freedom moped baby and I do not know where it is gonna take me! I have no helmet on and I lost one of my socks a mile ago!

Stoke is rammed, smiling faces every were and people having a great time dancing to great music, its kinda like a mobile Northernsoul museum, and I don't mean that in any derogatory way, but it is night of glorious nostalgia.

The Northernsoul Scene, as you know, has progressed, you may not feel comfortable with most of the track and you may not like to dance to stuff you don't know but there is a healthy cadre of soul fans who attend the allnighters up and down the country eager to listen, dance and appreciate those who have dusted off, unearthed or taken a punt on some thing new or underplayed, of course there are certain tacks that don't work but honest mate there are enough allnighters with busy dance floors to show that Northernsoul is alive and very well thank you.

Just so there are no hard feelings please enjoy this clip;

THE CHOSEN FEW - FOOTSEE - PYE ACITATE -

They're all here on soul source Simon.

i will repeat myself !

Every time i go too an OLDIES EVENT they are not playing anything from the later years of the casino etc just the same old same as for playing stafford records again no.. to many sheep djs and punters

its rare it aint played at an oldies doo SO it must be shit

im watching coronation streets september 23rd episode from 1973 for the 3,486 time, its fooking awsome i can talk along to every word

Love that episode - it's the one where Uncle Albert is worried about Ken who went to a nightclub in Wigan & hadn't been seen for two days. His holdall was missing but his pyjamas were still at home. However, Albert was pleased that Ken had the sense to take a couple of vests with him.

im watching coronation streets september 23rd episode from 1973 for the 3,486 time, its fooking awsome i can talk along to every word

That episode is so overbroadcast Beasy if I have to sit through it again I'll vomit!

Why cant they show some episodes from the 80s

It's something I think about on a regular basis Oldies fans and Newies fans. I first went to Kings Hall Stoke in 2000 and went for about 3 years, it is said to be the re-creation of the Casino by some older members of the Northern Soul movement. The back end of the days of the Casino I can remember, I remember the main hall being for newies and the smaller room M's for oldies, Is this gonna be the major turnabout in today's scene for a similar route now?

Paul, I think this is a bit of a Modo Hoc Fallacy to assume that. Unless of course Butch is expansive with an absolute and independent structure, which I don't think he is, he's structure dependent.

Butch is in a tragedy of the commons kind of situation, and thankfully he understands this.

Edited March 9, 201015 yr by James Trouble

Just woke up and after my initial posting on the night i feel more needs to be said as some of you just dont get it yet.

The "rare room" as one of you put it at no time was as you say banging and it really does need to stay in the "other" room and not make it to the main room. The main room last night was the way it was because it stuck to the tried and tested method of playing well known kick ass oldies. I may well be stuck in the past but the thing is the past works!!

You know as well as i do that if anyone DJ last night strayed from the "oldies" path they would have cleared the floor, thats why even Butch never bothered in trying "new" stuff on the main hall. Quality set of quality oldies he played : Al Kent/Tommy Bush the ones for me that really got me movin' and a groovin'.....and you know what?? i know he loved every minute of that main hall. The guy has records and knowledge of records that most could and only ever dream of.......but a simple set of back to the basics worked!!

Dedicated nighters for the rare and underplayed stuff exist for that purpose and IF there is any sounds that are good enough to live in the oldies sets of main stream dj's then spot on, but dont ram them down our throats because a dj has payed X amount of £'s so it must be good.........wrong, yes it may well be rare and yes in a collectors market fetch alot of money but those two factors dont mean that the 45 is any good and even deserve to be played at any nighter.

This is a bit of a hasty generalisation, I feel. I think I understand what you are trying to say but there is unwarranted inference in it. In this situation you can't make strong statements like this about a sample drawn from a broad population.

Just because you do not enjoy 'upfront events', (I assume because you feel the DJs tend to be focused on their record room friends and not on teh dance floor?) does not mean that you can generalise about records played at 'upfront events'.

And to assume that "anyone DJ last night strayed from the "oldies" path they would have cleared the floor, thats why even Butch never bothered in trying "new" stuff on the main hall" is plainly wrong, and specific examples can be used to prove this if needed. He simply has a deeper understanding of the situation than you do, I feel, and that is why he is one of if not the very best at what he does, like most of the other members of The Kings Hall allnighter team, whether DJs, sound men, promoters or venue management.

Edited March 9, 201015 yr by James Trouble

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Paul, I think this is a bit of a Modo Hoc Fallacy to assume that. Unless of course Butch is expansive with an absolute and independent structure, which I don't think he is, he's structure dependent.

Butch is in a tragedy of the commons kind of situation, and thankfully he understands this.

I know James..its a good earner. But i also know he prefers to play abroad and have a bit of freedom to play what he wants. As i said , when ive heard him abroad hes exciting and done brilliant sets that expose people to what is about that we dont know yet! Also at Brixton (while it lasted) he did this. Here people might aswell just hire one of several big name djs who tend to replicate each other. Its just a reflection of the mediocrity that pervades a part of the scene , that they want the 'tried and tested'..what was the 'tried & tested' before they first heard it? New and exciting maybe?

Mike, you should remove and censor some of the crap that's written over and over again mate, it's boring.

no! no! no! mark, it is not boring its the sort of thing that leads us onto weather we should stamp peoples wrist if they go for a ciggie outside. eerm yes mark its boring.oh so bloody tedious.no sorry i have just realised.SHOULD PEOPLE GO FOR A ciggie ??when ?? DURING An OLDIE OR A NEWIE .that has to be the next question at the UN.

Dazdakin I'm glad you had a great night at Stoke so did I.

If your musical journey begins at Wigan and ends in stoke then I can respect that, every one to their own.

I kinda guess every one on this list started their own personal journey at venues like the Casino or similar? My journey started the same way as you but I am still riding this freedom moped baby and I do not know where it is gonna take me! I have no helmet on and I lost one of my socks a mile ago!

Stoke is rammed, smiling faces every were and people having a great time dancing to great music, its kinda like a mobile Northernsoul museum, and I don't mean that in any derogatory way, but it is night of glorious nostalgia.

The Northernsoul Scene, as you know, has progressed, you may not feel comfortable with most of the track and you may not like to dance to stuff you don't know but there is a healthy cadre of soul fans who attend the allnighters up and down the country eager to listen, dance and appreciate those who have dusted off, unearthed or taken a punt on some thing new or underplayed, of course there are certain tacks that don't work but honest mate there are enough allnighters with busy dance floors to show that Northernsoul is alive and very well thank you.

Just so there are no hard feelings please enjoy this clip;

https://www.youtube.c...h?v=NtPBBngxYG0

Spot on.

I know James..its a good earner. But i also know he prefers to play abroad and have a bit of freedom to play what he wants. As i said , when ive heard him abroad hes exciting and done brilliant sets that expose people to what is about that we dont know yet! Also at Brixton (while it lasted) he did this. Here people might aswell just hire one of several big name djs who tend to replicate each other. Its just a reflection of the mediocrity that pervades a part of the scene , that they want the 'tried and tested'..what was the 'tried & tested' before they first heard it? New and exciting maybe?

Not sure 'earning' comes into it, does it?

But DJs are structure dependent.

I agree that there are huge waves of mediocrity washign over the scene in the UK, but they are as much a feature of the so called 'newies' scene as they are a part of the so called 'oldies' scene.

Edited March 9, 201015 yr by James Trouble

I've been to Stoke several times, I enjoyed the first couple but the only way I could ever enjoy it now would be to take a shitload of nighter aids (which I don't do) and thats why I always end up going home at about 3am, can't stand anymore. Little Queenie?

Whatever floats your boat, I'm not saying I wouldn't feel that way about ANY nighter I went to nowadays not just Stoke because my interest level is just so low to be honest, but if I were to go out and seriously try to enjoy myself I'd like to hear maybe 50% good oldies and 50% newies and lesser knowns and no modern. At all.

Not sure 'earning' comes into it, does it?

But DJs are structure dependent.

I agree that there are huge waves of mediocrity washign over the scene in the UK, but they are as much a feature of the so called 'newies' scene as they are a part of the so called 'oldies' scene.

But what you have to realise is that a lot of the new stuff are old rejects that werent good enough to play out at the time and are being played out because they are rare.There's thousands of great soul records out there that are cheap/never been played/rare that are good records.A lot of it is to do with deejays who are playing to impress other deejays and not the most important people on the scene.....the paying punters/dancers.No wonder people who like oldies turn up to a night where newies are played and never return.Lady In Green....thank god it's so rare and places are ovo.It's a bad northern soul record.It might be a great doowop record but a northern soul record for dancing to I don't think so.When do newies become oldies?

Lady In Green....thank god it's so rare and places are ovo.It's a bad northern soul record.It might be a great doowop record but a northern soul record for dancing to I don't think so.When do newies become oldies?

I disagree, it's played on the Northern Soul scene so that makes it a Northern Soul record in the same way that hundreds of other records that don't have the classic Motown 4/4 beat are played.

I find it personally very easy & very enjoyable to dance to.

Simon

I am sick of reading threads like this we should be gratefull that we have a healthy scene still .

As long as the music fits the basic template of what makes a good dancer it doesnt matter what era its from . oldies V newies grow up ffs

But what you have to realise is that a lot of the new stuff are old rejects that werent good enough to play out at the time and are being played out because they are rare.There's thousands of great soul records out there that are cheap/never been played/rare that are good records.A lot of it is to do with deejays who are playing to impress other deejays and not the most important people on the scene.....the paying punters/dancers.No wonder people who like oldies turn up to a night where newies are played and never return.Lady In Green....thank god it's so rare and places are ovo.It's a bad northern soul record.It might be a great doowop record but a northern soul record for dancing to I don't think so.When do newies become oldies?

Is that directed at me? If it is, I don't think I need to realise that.

Besides, I'm not sure you quite understand your own point anyway, it seems a bit of a nonsense.

Some newies used to be oldies that were not good enough and some oldies used to be newies that were good and became well known? Some oldies were never good enough and are still played at oldies events just because they are oldies and some newies are not good enough but are played at newies events just because they are new? Some newies used to be oldies that were forgotten about until the newies scene played them and then they stopped being newies and were oldies again, while some newies are played so many times they become oldies but are too rare to be played at oldies events so are called 'biggies'. What about the newies that are old hat funk oldies played at northern soul oldies venues? And the funk newies that are forgotten oldies that are now played at newies northern venues?

Does this all make newies worse than, better than or the same as oldies?

Personally I don't really care and feel that the scene should forgot about these outdated principles which lost relevence a decade or so ago and get back to basics, concentrating on putting on great parties at the best venues with the best DJs and best sound systems.

Edited March 9, 201015 yr by James Trouble

But what you have to realise is that a lot of the new stuff are old rejects that werent good enough to play out at the time and are being played out because they are rare.There's thousands of great soul records out there that are cheap/never been played/rare that are good records.A lot of it is to do with deejays who are playing to impress other deejays and not the most important people on the scene.....the paying punters/dancers.No wonder people who like oldies turn up to a night where newies are played and never return.Lady In Green....thank god it's so rare and places are ovo.It's a bad northern soul record.It might be a great doowop record but a northern soul record for dancing to I don't think so.When do newies become oldies?

Talkin about individual records won't help this thread.The patient is already critical.

Back to the original posters points....I'm tired of the oldies crew,slagging off the upfront/rare/new scene.

These are the very people who claim to love Wigan,its tunes, and all it stood for."There is ,and never will be a better venue or tunes."

The thing is Wigan broke new stuff week in week out along with Clee,Mecca etc.Ask Kev Roberts,he was there,,bringing new stuff to the table all the time.

So where do the oldies crew get their ideas from regarding accepting new tunes?

Edited March 9, 201015 yr by KevH

Pete if you get bored at a nighter try asking the DJ for stupid stuff I asked one for The Lambrini the other night.

I could ever enjoy it now would be to take a shitload of nighter aids (which I don't do)

Puff.

Talkin about individual records won't help this thread.The patient is already critical.

Back to the original posters points....I'm tired of the oldies crew,slagging off the upfront/rare/new scene.

These are the very people who claim to love Wigan,its tunes, and all it stood for."There is ,and never will be a better venue or tunes."

The thing is Wigan broke new stuff week in week out along with Clee,Mecca etc.Ask Kev Roberts,he was there,,bringing new stuff to the table all the time.

So where do the oldies crew get their ideas from regarding accepting new tunes?

Yeah but those deejays..Roberts/Levine/Chris King/Dewhirst/Searling had an understanding of what could be played and what couldn't and quality control (for the most part) was high. They understood what the kids that visited those venues wanted.They wanted uptempo danceable soul based on the Tamla Motown beat.Maybe it should be a return of back to basics and the drawing board.I think the oldies crowd would accept new sounds. Maybe not ten in a set but they would. What they wont accept are ten newies that are substandard and played just because they are rare or unreleased.Look at the Magic Touch (a great unreleased danceable record that became a classic and was played as a newie) that would go down a storm at any event.Joe Jama (another great danceable record that will become a northern soul anthem).I'm sorry but you can't talk about oldies/newies without picking examples.Oldies fans are perceived as prehistoric dinosaurs living off DILY and newies are tarred with they listen to any old new crap as long as its rare even if its a ballad.Can anyone list a load of newies that are uptempo and have a good production?

Yeah but those deejays..Roberts/Levine/Chris King/Dewhirst/Searling had an understanding of what could be played and what couldn't and quality control (for the most part) was high. They understood what the kids that visited those venues wanted.They wanted uptempo danceable soul based on the Tamla Motown beat.Maybe it should be a return of back to basics and the drawing board.I think the oldies crowd would accept new sounds. Maybe not ten in a set but they would. What they wont accept are ten newies that are substandard and played just because they are rare or unreleased.Look at the Magic Touch (a great unreleased danceable record that became a classic and was played as a newie) that would go down a storm at any event.Joe Jama (another great danceable record that will become a northern soul anthem).I'm sorry but you can't talk about oldies/newies without picking examples.Oldies fans are perceived as prehistoric dinosaurs living off DILY and newies are tarred with they listen to any old new crap as long as its rare even if its a ballad.Can anyone list a load of newies that are uptempo and have a good production?

Alright then.Carstairs,James Fountain,World Column and even Mel Britt.I reckon if these were new today,the oldies crowd would dump them quicker than you could say Shopping Arcade.

All of them aren't your normal dyed in the wool stompers,but were spoon fed at Wigan to such an extent they became Wigan Classics .

Edited March 9, 201015 yr by KevH

Alright then.Carstairs,James Fountain,World Column and even Mel Britt.I reckon if these were new today,the oldies crowd would dump them quicker than you could say Shopping Arcade.

All of them aren't your normal dyed in the wool stompers,but were spoon fed at Wigan to such an extent they became Wigan Classics .

Hang on ..........Ive a picture of an oldies fan about to get on to the new coach to Wigan so he can discover new tunes like the above. Does evolution mean they will be digging Shep I'm Sittin in around 2040.....

The days of umpteen amounts of totally unknown records have long gone.

The records that some people have such an aversion to are not new records at all but more often than not records that have been played for a long time.

I wonder how many people who went to the first nights at Wigan Casino would still have been as enthusiastic if the DJ's had not introduced new records?

My guess would be none!

Hang on ..........Ive a picture of an oldies fan about to get on to the new coach to Wigan so he can discover new tunes like the above. Does evolution mean they will be digging Shep I'm Sittin in around 2040.....

And a newies fan at the same time who has just discovered a rare acetate recorded in Detroit toilet with the same tempo as the funeral march

Puff.

too old for that malarky now mate - I'm 50 tomorrow!

Edited March 9, 201015 yr by Pete S

Hang on ..........Ive a picture of an oldies fan about to get on to the new coach to Wigan so he can discover new tunes like the above. Does evolution mean they will be digging Shep I'm Sittin in around 2040.....

no,digging Shep nowadays is called standing still.I don't think you understood my post at all.

Edited March 9, 201015 yr by KevH

Newies, I assume you don't mean Modern?

I can start with some seventies "Newies", most of them will have bled into the main rooms and into the Psyche of most oldies fans who may not even realise their origins.

This may well be classed as cross over track?

True Image - I'm not over you yet

Brilliant tempo, excellent production and crisp disco

Pep Brown - I am the one who needs you

Nowt wrong with this little badger!

Wilson Williams - I like being in love with you

Crazy mega record that blows the cob webs of any of the tired dancers

Charles Drain - Is this real love

Honest this is just the seventies, there are buckets of brilliant records we hardly hear and contra to popular belief it is not because they are crap! It's because most people on the Northernsoul Scene need their fookin ears pulling through!

I know absolutely nothing about our fantastic scene because I know we are just touching the tip of the ice berg, Northernsoul was never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever about listening to the main stream, we now have a mainstream and I aint fookin swimming in it!!!!!!!!

I'll go to Stoke coz I love the carnival, I'll go to the smaller venues coz I want to hear that stuff that makes me go wow!

too old for that malarky now mate - I'm 50 tomorrow!

That's not old for our scene and you know it!

I'll let you off further ball busting though, as you're a good egg & a family man with young kids.

On the subject of the thread I'd agree with you Pete, a blend of oldies & newies and easy on the modern.

Happy Birthday for the big five o tomorrow mate.

Can anyone list a load of newies that are uptempo and have a good production?

Not 'new' records as such but records that have become big in the last 10-15 years through being played at more progressive clubs & have then gone on to become accepted in 'oldies' clubs.

Charles Sheffield - It's your voodoo working

Marvin Gaye - Love starved heart

Barbara McNair - Baby a go go

Mello Souls - We can make it

September Jones - Give me all your love

Magicians - Faith & understanding

Contours - Jealousy

Swans - Nitty gritty city

Few off the top of my head, if the progressive peeps on the scene hadn't bothered hunting around for new & interesting things to play these would never have seen the light of day at places like Stoke, Kings Hall, people can put the so called 'newies' crowd down all they like but if it wasn't for these nerds who apparently only like mid tempo funeral marches the scene would be a much less richer place imo.

Simon

Not 'new' records as such but records that have become big in the last 10-15 years through being played at more progressive clubs & have then gone on to become accepted in 'oldies' clubs.

Charles Sheffield - It's your voodoo working

Marvin Gaye - Love starved heart

Barbara McNair - Baby a go go

Mello Souls - We can make it

September Jones - Give me all your love

Magicians - Faith & understanding

Contours - Jealousy

Swans - Nitty gritty city

Few off the top of my head, if the progressive peeps on the scene hadn't bothered hunting around for new & interesting things to play these would never have seen the light of day at places like Stoke, Kings Hall, people can put the so called 'newies' crowd down all they like but if it wasn't for these nerds who apparently only like mid tempo funeral marches the scene would be a much less richer place imo.

Simon

I think you misunderstood (I was taking the piss out of both sides newies/and oldies see the Tardis .....!!).I was asking for a list of uptempo northern soul newies that the Stoke crowd/oldies would accept.Re the above list. SPOT ON......but they have taken the best and nothing less..keep serving them up like this and there would be no problems. Every newies event in the Uk would be rammed with old fans listening to new sounds.

Can anyone list a load of newies that are uptempo and have a good production?

Go to an "upfront, uptempo" venue and listen/dance/enjoy/headscratch/ask/penscramble/selftext and weep!

It's f**king brilliant.

Go to an "upfront, uptempo" venue and listen/dance/enjoy/headscratch/ask/penscramble/selftext and weep!

It's f**king brilliant.

Name them!!! Come on Upfront Newies Venues that play uptempo sixties/seventies to the dancefloor without ballads or mid tempo in the middle.

Name them!!! Come on Upfront Newies Venues that play uptempo sixties/seventies to the dancefloor without ballads or mid tempo in the middle.

Well i need the odd midtempo to catch me breath and chat to me fellow soul lovers..instead of dancing in a huddle like some kind of work out.

Hiring Butch to play bog standard oldies? Isnt that like having a Ferrarri and sticking to the speed limit?

Well i need the odd midtempo to catch me breath and chat to me fellow soul lovers..instead of dancing in a huddle like some kind of work out.

Okay you can have one mid tempo newie..........Your Love It Won Me Over-Cookie Scott on Orr..