This may have been covered before but are the copies of Four Tracks that keep coming up for sale definite originals

Also, what's a realistic value on it now

Thanks

yes they are kev. the spivens guy in the states that sold copies in 2008 has started listing them again .1 a week or sometimes 1 every 2 weeks. it does seem to be keeping some sort of value though because it was so rare before and demand is still high. still £350 /400 of anyones money.

lets hope he runs out soon tho eh

dave

yes they are kev. the spivens guy in the states that sold copies in 2008 has started listing them again .1 a week or sometimes 1 every 2 weeks. it does seem to be keeping some sort of value though because it was so rare before and demand is still high. still £350 /400 of anyones money.

lets hope he runs out soon tho eh

dave

NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT ATHA DAVE, STANDS US AT 75 QUID OR SUMMAT LIKE THAT DUNNIT

BRO

NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT ATHA DAVE, STANDS US AT 75 QUID OR SUMMAT LIKE THAT DUNNIT

BRO

OFF TOPIC, STILL NOT HEARD OWT ABART A LIFT T' HORTI T, MORRER

BRO

yes they are kev. the spivens guy in the states that sold copies in 2008 has started listing them again .1 a week or sometimes 1 every 2 weeks. it does seem to be keeping some sort of value though because it was so rare before and demand is still high. still £350 /400 of anyones money.

lets hope he runs out soon tho eh

dave

Anyone know how many he turned up - I remember some saying it was a 25 count box and some said up to 100

Anyone know how many he turned up - I remember some saying it was a 25 count box and some said up to 100

27 of the copies that this seller has sold has showed up on Popsike and Collectors Frenzy, plus he's got one copy on eBay right now, so it's defintiely more than a 25 count box.

Why would anyone wanna that amount of money for an average ballad...one record that truly leaves me cold when spun...

No, surely not Mark? It's brill, I was ecstatic when I bought my copy from Ian Clark in the late 80's at Peterborough. I think it was the princely sum of £25.

I remember hearing Roscoe Shelton-You're The Dream and Benny C. Oliver-Make It Now for the first time on the same night.

TT

27 of the copies that this seller has sold has showed up on Popsike and Collectors Frenzy, plus he's got one copy on eBay right now, so it's defintiely more than a 25 count box.

HE SOLD 70 OR SO COPIES IN 2008 THEN LAST YEAR NEVER SOLD ANY AT ALL UP UNTIL CHRISTMAS. SINCE THEN HE`S LET S DOZEN OR SO MORE OUT. HE MUST HAVE FOUND ALL THE OLD STORE STOCK IN ONE HIT BECAUSE UNLIKE SOME DETROIT GOODIES IT NEVER SOLD OR GOT DISTRIBUTED AT ALL UPON RELEASE

DAVE

No, surely not Mark? It's brill, I was ecstatic when I bought my copy from Ian Clark in the late 80's at Peterborough. I think it was the princely sum of £25.

I remember hearing Roscoe Shelton-You're The Dream and Benny C. Oliver-Make It Now for the first time on the same night.

TT

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fraid so tony ,this ,,panic is on ,,,just dont do it for me it all - and dont even mention romance watson!!! lol

HE SOLD 70 OR SO COPIES IN 2008 THEN LAST YEAR NEVER SOLD ANY AT ALL UP UNTIL CHRISTMAS. SINCE THEN HE`S LET S DOZEN OR SO MORE OUT. HE MUST HAVE FOUND ALL THE OLD STORE STOCK IN ONE HIT BECAUSE UNLIKE SOME DETROIT GOODIES IT NEVER SOLD OR GOT DISTRIBUTED AT ALL UPON RELEASE

DAVE

He must have sold in excess of 100 copies then, as he definately makes second chance offers.

Makes you wonder how many he has exactly ?

I personally wouldn't risk more than I could afford to lose on it, since theres a serious chance of it turning out to be another Danny Moore or Royal Esquires - so $300 would be my top bid.

Why would anyone wanna that amount of money for an average ballad...one record that truly leaves me cold when spun...

Thats because everyone plays it upside down Mark. The flip Voo Doo Man is superb. I do like the topside too just not as good as the so called 'B' side.

Why would anyone wanna that amount of money for an average ballad...one record that truly leaves me cold when spun...

I agree. I can't stand LMLFY.

The other side though... that is a different story.

Voo Doo Man is superb!

He must have sold in excess of 100 copies then, as he definately makes second chance offers.

Makes you wonder how many he has exactly ?

I personally wouldn't risk more than I could afford to lose on it, since theres a serious chance of it turning out to be another Danny Moore or Royal Esquires - so $300 would be my top bid.

this could certainly be true joe. when i wrote my initial post i put 100 count then changed it to 70. certainly in the first couple of weeks after he surfaced with them with the first copies a handful of people got second chance offers. i myself were party to a 10 count that came over the first week he put them on with a couple of friends of mine but after the first couple of weeks he got greedy and just auctioned one every other week on ebay. the copy that he just sold ended up going for nearly $600 today

dave

Edited April 15, 201015 yr by dave pinch

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fraid so tony ,this ,,panic is on ,,,just dont do it for me it all - and dont even mention romance watson!!! lol

Just goes to show, nobody is perfect!!

I agree. I can't stand LMLFY.

The other side though... that is a different story.

Voo Doo Man is superb!

"Like My Love For You" is total CLASS Detroit Soul and I have thought so for 30 years, but I suppose it would not be good if we all had the same taste in music!

"Like My Love For You" is total CLASS Detroit Soul and I have thought so for 30 years, but I suppose it would not be good if we all had the same taste in music!

To you maybe. But to me it is not even average. Like you say it is all down to taste.

What do you think of the other side?

Anyway, if anyone has a copy that only plays VDM then I'm your girl

"Like My Love For You" is total CLASS Detroit Soul and I have thought so for 30 years, but I suppose it would not be good if we all had the same taste in music!

isn't the group from Toledo, not Detroit, and related to the magnificent opinions on Skippyophonic (who recorded in the 80s)?

He must have sold in excess of 100 copies then, as he definately makes second chance offers.

Makes you wonder how many he has exactly ?

I personally wouldn't risk more than I could afford to lose on it, since theres a serious chance of it turning out to be another Danny Moore or Royal Esquires - so $300 would be my top bid.

I hope it does become another Danny Moore, then I'll get a copy!

Unbelievable that Danny Moore became an unplayable record just because it surfaced in quantity, it is soooo good!

Power to the knob wavers.

I hope it does become another Danny Moore, then I'll get a copy!

Unbelievable that Danny Moore became an unplayable record just because it surfaced in quantity, it is soooo good!

Power to the knob wavers.

Don't get me wrong, I hope that he has 1000 copies so that I can get one when the price plummets.

To you maybe. But to me it is not even average. Like you say it is all down to taste.

What do you think of the other side?

Anyway, if anyone has a copy that only plays VDM then I'm your girl

i agree with you joan , that awful plod plod plod and those annoying repetitive lyrics , rubbish to dance to

the b side is excellent though

Edited April 16, 201015 yr by sarahleen

i agree with you joan , that awful plod plod plod and those annoying repetitive lyrics , rubbish to dance to

the b side is excellent though

Yep LYLFM is an average tune with a underplayed and excellent b side IMHO

Unbelievable that Danny Moore became an unplayable record just because it surfaced in quantity, it is soooo good!

I second that emotion

isn't the group from Toledo, not Detroit, and related to the magnificent opinions on Skippyophonic (who recorded in the 80s)?

The record was recorded and made in Detroit!

I believe it was recorded in the same studio's that Correc-Tone etc, used. It was manufactured by Archer.

Edited April 16, 201015 yr by Perception

rubbish to dance to

Is that why its been played to packed dance floors in all the major venues for the last 25 years, or maybe its just the way you dance!!

Is that why its been played to packed dance floors in all the major venues for the last 25 years, or maybe its just the way you dance!!

* shrugs *

To you maybe. But to me it is not even average. Like you say it is all down to taste.

What do you think of the other side?

After hearing you play records in the DDA etc, I can say I am disappointed in your opinion about this record!

Voodoo Man belongs in some R&B/mod room with Charles Sheffield etc! I'll stick with Northern Soul!

Edited April 16, 201015 yr by Perception

* shrugs *

Edited April 16, 201015 yr by sarahleen

Voodoo Man belongs in some R&B/mod room with Charles Sheffield etc! I'll stick with Northern Soul!

I was gonna risk a Webby type debate but there's no point. You stick with what you define as "Northern Soul". I'd probably never change your mind any way.

Edited April 16, 201015 yr by ged parker

NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT ATHA DAVE, STANDS US AT 75 QUID OR SUMMAT LIKE THAT DUNNIT

BRO

bout all its worth really now Anyone willing to part with 400 quid now needs their head looking at with the copies that have come up for sale. The guy who has them been very shrewd.

bout all its worth really now Anyone willing to part with 400 quid now needs their head looking at with the copies that have come up for sale. The guy who has them been very shrewd.

you're not wrong there...

I'd rather keep the cash in the bank for something rare thant comes along.

I think both sides are cracking and equally as good to dance too

Edited April 16, 201015 yr by JELLYBEAN

bout all its worth really now Anyone willing to part with 400 quid now needs their head looking at with the copies that have come up for sale. The guy who has them been very shrewd.

BUT THE THING IS CHALKS. THERES PROBABLY STILL LESS COPIES IN THE UK THAN SAY FRANK BEVERLY ON SASSY OR FOUR PERFECTIONS ON PARTY TIME AND LOADS OF OTHER 45`S I COULD MENTION. PEOPLE PAY THEIR MONEY AND MAKES THEIR CHOICES I SUPPOSE. I WAS FORTUNATE WITH THIS 45 BUT I WOULDNT PAY WHAT ITS STILL GOING FOR KNOWING THE HISTORY WITH IT. I HOPE THEY DO DRY UP SOON COS I HATE TO SEE GOOD RECORDS CRUCIFIED.

DAVE

BUT THE THING IS CHALKS. THERES PROBABLY STILL LESS COPIES IN THE UK THAN SAY FRANK BEVERLY ON SASSY OR FOUR PERFECTIONS ON PARTY TIME AND LOADS OF OTHER 45`S I COULD MENTION. PEOPLE PAY THEIR MONEY AND MAKES THEIR CHOICES I SUPPOSE. I WAS FORTUNATE WITH THIS 45 BUT I WOULDNT PAY WHAT ITS STILL GOING FOR KNOWING THE HISTORY WITH IT. I HOPE THEY DO DRY UP SOON COS I HATE TO SEE GOOD RECORDS CRUCIFIED.

DAVE

There's examples of records being over priced every day, Gene Toones is another. Yet there was a record listed on here t'other day for £50, Wallace Johnson (or was it a touch more?) Seen more of some of the tiltes you mention in a month than I've seen of Wallace Johnson in 3 years, so why the large price difference?

The seller should sell them now for a fair price and not keep trying to fleece collectors. Surely he has had his moneys worth selling approx 100 copies or so last couple of years?

Good records only get crucified by DJ's with no imagination.

Somone should post up the original thread where we discussed this.

https://www.soul-source.co.uk/forums/topic/86136-four-tracks/page__p__920514__fromsearch__1entry920514

here's the link to the original thread.

There's examples of records being over priced every day, Gene Toones is another. Yet there was a record listed on here t'other day for £50, Wallace Johnson (or was it a touch more?) Seen more of some of the tiltes you mention in a month than I've seen of Wallace Johnson in 3 years, so why the large price difference?

The seller should sell them now for a fair price and not keep trying to fleece collectors. Surely he has had his moneys worth selling approx 100 copies or so last couple of years?

Good records only get crucified by DJ's with no imagination.

this again is true. about 90% of these so called rare soul45`s are overpriced IMO. nobdy can fault anybody for maximizing the potential of records but if something struggles to sell surely the price should come down. a lot of sellers out there carrying records with big price tags on em that maybe shouldn`t have

dave

BUT THE THING IS CHALKS. THERES PROBABLY STILL LESS COPIES IN THE UK THAN SAY FRANK BEVERLY ON SASSY OR FOUR PERFECTIONS ON PARTY TIME AND LOADS OF OTHER 45`S I COULD MENTION. PEOPLE PAY THEIR MONEY AND MAKES THEIR CHOICES I SUPPOSE. I WAS FORTUNATE WITH THIS 45 BUT I WOULDNT PAY WHAT ITS STILL GOING FOR KNOWING THE HISTORY WITH IT. I HOPE THEY DO DRY UP SOON COS I HATE TO SEE GOOD RECORDS CRUCIFIED.

DAVE

WADE FLEMONS - JEANETTE - RAMSEL , AND THE MAJESTICS ON LINDA ARE TWO MORE OVERPRICED ATROCITIES THAT IMMEDIATELY SPRING TO MIND.

BRI PINCH

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