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Just bought this 'blind' on e-bay and quite like it in a quirky kind of way - does anyone know anything about it - or have an opinion of it as a tune?

Dave

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superb, one of the all-time great NS records IMO. quite an expensive blind buy if its the original on decca?

superb, one of the all-time great NS records IMO. quite an expensive blind buy if its the original on decca?

Glad I'm not alone in liking it - Unfortunately this ones on Champion CHP-101-A, with another nice tune on the B side - I.O.U.

Forgive my ignorance but does that make Champion a re-issue label?

Dave

Just bought this 'blind' on e-bay and quite like it in a quirky kind of way - does anyone know anything about it - or have an opinion of it as a tune?

Dave

It's a brill record that holds many memories of wigan casino, a packed and sweaty dancefloor. When I hear it these days gotta still dance to it!

Carolyn

Glad I'm not alone in liking it - Unfortunately this ones on Champion CHP-101-A, with another nice tune on the B side - I.O.U.

Forgive my ignorance but does that make Champion a re-issue label?

Dave

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it's a bootleg from the 70's

Glad I'm not alone in liking it - Unfortunately this ones on Champion CHP-101-A, with another nice tune on the B side - I.O.U.

Forgive my ignorance but does that make Champion a re-issue label?

Dave

In this case, yes - the Champion issue of Johnny Caswell is a reissue, the only original release was on Decca - however there are originals on Champion, most notably Gloria Jones "Tainted Love"

Just bought this 'blind' on e-bay and quite like it in a quirky kind of way - does anyone know anything about it - or have an opinion of it as a tune?Dave

Talking of which, what happened to the renowed "1986 Tony Worot Remix" of this song ????

Jon Buck

Being a youngster, i associate this with Leicester Oddfellows.

I also thought Look was the original? Dont say I have been happily sat on a boot for 20 odd years?

Is it on Kent as well?

excellant tune

yes also issued on kent, great record :thumbsup:

Being a youngster, i associate this with Leicester Oddfellows.

I also thought Look was the original? Dont say I have been happily sat on a boot for 20 odd years?

Are you thinking of Freddie Chavez on Look "They'll Never Know Why"?

Or should I get back to my drink :thumbsup:

Paul

In this case, yes - the Champion issue of Johnny Caswell is a reissue, the only original release was on Decca - however there are originals on Champion, most notably Gloria Jones "Tainted Love"

Johnny Caswell,You don't love me anymore on Decca,it's been boxed over 20 years played about 3 or 4 times (honestly) whats the asking price for this. Billy

Johnny Caswell,You don't love me anymore on Decca,it's been boxed over 20 years played about 3 or 4 times (honestly) whats the asking price for this. Billy

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great oldie this

one regret not picking this up in the 80s

gone for silly money last year ,,ebay 400+

i wouldnt pay anymore than 300 and thats expensive but what a tune!

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great oldie this

one regret not picking this up in the 80s

gone for silly money last year ,,ebay 400+

i wouldnt pay anymore than 300 and thats expensive but what a tune!

Hi Mark stop copy £300,demo £150,decca let it go for £500,also Sheryle grey female version on HMV australian copy £100 anyone up for bids.

Billy whistling.gif

brilliant tune

Hi Mark stop copy £300,demo £150,decca let it go for £500,also Sheryle grey female version on HMV australian copy £100 anyone up for bids.

Billy whistling.gif

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wot u got demo and an issue and an aussie one?

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wot u got demo and an issue and an aussie one?

Was Johnny caswell released on HMV in australia, what is the connection with Decca.

SHEEEP

Just bought this 'blind' on e-bay and quite like it in a quirky kind of way - does anyone know anything about it - or have an opinion of it as a tune?

Dave

'You don't know this but you like it in a quirky kind of way'.!!

Obviously your not a northern fan, this has been a northern anthem for the past 30 years, where have been.?or what are doing on this site.?

SHEEP

'You don't know this but you like it in a quirky kind of way'.!!

Obviously your not a northern fan, this has been a northern anthem for the past 30 years, where have been.?or what are doing on this site.?

SHEEP

That was a bit of an harsh reply. Just because he doesn't know a certain record doesn't mean he's not a fan of the music, that's the sort of narrow minded "if you don't know/like this you're not one of us" attitude that gives a lot of collectors and DJs a bad name.

'You don't know this but you like it in a quirky kind of way'.!!

Obviously your not a northern fan, this has been a northern anthem for the past 30 years, where have been.?or what are doing on this site.?

SHEEP

Sheep,

We spend hours on this site devising methods of attracting new blood to the scene, and you come out with crass statements like that, a statement that would put any newbie off.

Out of order.

Nick

Was Johnny caswell released on HMV in australia, what is the connection with Decca.

SHEEEP

No no no .... Cheryl Gray (later to become Disco Soul singer Samantha Sang "Emotion" !!!) did a frantic cover version of it in '66, only ever released in Australia on HMV.

I have a nice mint copy for sale @ 100 UK GBP if anyone's interested. First in, best dressed ! Includes P & P !

Johnny Caswell's original was NOT released in Australia.

By the way , Johnny Caswell was a lily-white Italian pop singer, must say IMO I could never understand the record's popularity on the Northen Scene , but then that's what I love about the Northern Scene! To each his own as they say !

But please file Johnny next to the Shakers , August and Deneen , and Bobby Goldsboro !!!!! whistling.gif

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That was a bit of an harsh reply. Just because he doesn't know a certain record doesn't mean he's not a fan of the music, that's the sort of narrow minded "if you don't know/like this you're not one of us" attitude that gives a lot of collectors and DJs a bad name.

Yes, it was a bit harsh, my apologies.

SHEEP

No no no .... Cheryl Gray (later to become Disco Soul singer Samantha Sang "Emotion" !!!) did a frantic cover version of it in '66, only ever released in Australia on HMV.

I have a nice mint copy for sale @ 100 UK GBP if anyone's interested. First in, best dressed ! Includes P & P !

Johnny Caswell's original was NOT released in Australia.

By the way , Johnny Caswell was a lily-white Italian pop singer, must say IMO I could never understand the record's popularity on the Northen Scene , but then that's what I love about the Northern Scene! To each his own as they say !

But please file Johnny next to the Shakers , August and Deneen , and Bobby Goldsboro !!!!! whistling.gif

Did Johnny Caswell come out in any other country, eg spain, italy.?

Also have a near miny copy of Cheryl Gray . HMV aussie, will take a bit less than a £100, offers.

SHEEP

No no no .... Cheryl Gray (later to become Disco Soul singer Samantha Sang "Emotion" !!!) did a frantic cover version of it in '66, only ever released in Australia on HMV.

I have a nice mint copy for sale @ 100 UK GBP if anyone's interested. First in, best dressed ! Includes P & P !

Johnny Caswell's original was NOT released in Australia.

By the way , Johnny Caswell was a lily-white Italian pop singer, must say IMO I could never understand the record's popularity on the Northen Scene , but then that's what I love about the Northern Scene! To each his own as they say !

But please file Johnny next to the Shakers , August and Deneen , and Bobby Goldsboro !!!!! whistling.gif

Thank u could'nt put that any better myself.

Billy

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wot u got demo and an issue and an aussie one?

Do'nt sound suprised just remember i'm 300 years old the records belong to Van Helsing lol speak to u off line.

Billy whistling.gif

Do'nt sound suprised just remember i'm 300 years old the records belong to Van Helsing lol speak to u off line.

Billy whistling.gif

HI ALL

IF ANY ONE WHAT'S A SCAN OF JOHNNY CASWELL I HAVE A BLACK ISSUE

JUST EMAIL ME ian@burt5298.freeserve.co.uk

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Thanks to you all for the information.

Sheep - I am quite new to the 'scene' and have only been collecting records etc. this last year or so. I do buy some stuff 'blind' just for the thrill of it, but most often use the bizarre yardstick of if I like it i'll try and buy it and if I dont I won't - once I've found something I like its then quite nice to track the history.

Thanks again,

Dave

ps since I've got into the music I've bought a s**t load of records, been to quite a few events and now help to run a night in East London - this site has helped me considerably in these endevours.

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Sheep,

We spend hours on this site devising methods of attracting new blood to the scene, and you come out with crass statements like that, a statement that would put any newbie off.

Out of order.

Nick

well said Nick whistling.gif

Thanks to you all for the information.

Sheep - I am quite new to the 'scene' and have only been collecting records etc. this last year or so. I do buy some stuff 'blind' just for the thrill of it, but most often use the bizarre yardstick of if I like it i'll try and buy it and if I dont I won't - once I've found something I like its then quite nice to track the history.

Thanks again,

Dave

ps since I've got into the music I've bought a s**t load of records, been to quite a few events and now help to run a night in East London - this site has helped me considerably in these endevours.

A fabulous blue eyed 45 produced by my good friend John Madara. First played in March 1974 by Ian Levine at Blackpool Mecca. Caswell signed to DECCA as a straight Len Barry sound a like in 1966.

Today, JC is a successful Stage Hire company owner in Las Vegas.

Kev Roberts

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No no no .... Cheryl Gray (later to become Disco Soul singer Samantha Sang "Emotion" !!!) did a frantic cover version of it in '66, only ever released in Australia on HMV.

I have a nice mint copy for sale @ 100 UK GBP if anyone's interested. First in, best dressed ! Includes P & P !

Johnny Caswell's original was NOT released in Australia.

By the way , Johnny Caswell was a lily-white Italian pop singer, must say IMO I could never understand the record's popularity on the Northen Scene , but then that's what I love about the Northern Scene! To each his own as they say !

But please file Johnny next to the Shakers , August and Deneen , and Bobby Goldsboro !!!!! whistling.gif

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youre having a laugh surely?

By the way , Johnny Caswell was a lily-white Italian pop singer, must say IMO I could never understand the record's popularity on the Northen Scene , but then that's what I love about the Northern Scene! To each his own as they say !

But please file Johnny next to the Shakers , August and Deneen , and Bobby Goldsboro !!!!! whistling.gif

Your having a laugh aren't you? Certainly not my bag nowadays but an out and out Northern Classic up there with the best of them as an iconic slab of driving northern soul dance music

Trouty

Thanks to you all for the information.

Sheep - I am quite new to the 'scene' and have only been collecting records etc. this last year or so. I do buy some stuff 'blind' just for the thrill of it, but most often use the bizarre yardstick of if I like it i'll try and buy it and if I dont I won't - once I've found something I like its then quite nice to track the history.

Thanks again,

Dave

ps since I've got into the music I've bought a s**t load of records, been to quite a few events and now help to run a night in East London - this site has helped me considerably in these endevours.

whistling.gif:thumbsup::D:D

Dave

Take no notice of me, I'm just a miserable synic. You are certainly on the right site for getting all the necessary info' on records and the scene. Good luck with the collecting.

SHEEP

Did Johnny Caswell come out in any other country, eg spain, italy.?

Also have a near miny copy of Cheryl Gray . HMV aussie, will take a bit less than a £100, offers.

SHEEP

This must have come out in some other country besides the .US.? Would be interested if anybody knows.

SHEEP

Dave

Take no notice of me, I'm just a miserable synic. You are certainly on the right site for getting all the necessary info' on records and the scene. Good luck with the collecting.

SHEEP

SHEEP

No problem mate - the more I play this track the more I like it - my 'good in a querky kind of way' has been upgraded to abolutely brilliant (I gave it a spin on Saturday night and was a bit suprised as it didn't get many dancers - however I intend to persevere until they see it my way)

Dave

This must have come out in some other country besides the .US.? Would be interested if anybody knows.

SHEEP

US only 99% sure female version very much underrated Australia released only

I'm totally obsessed with "I.O.U." on the flip - the best record the truly great Len Barry never made. I bet there's an unreleased or guide vocal version out there somewhere. Mine's a 'Champion' boot too but I don't care because it's about the music innit ?

Incidently, on the subject of Champion boots, which are the legit releases and which ones aren't?

i don't much care for this record any more (oldies-wise play it next to lou pride, any of ray pollard's stuff, either magnetics (sable or bonnie) or a million others and the reason is obvious) but it will always have a place in my heart from 1983/4 or whenever i first heard it on one of the great early kent albums (along with things like jean carter, the demures etc).

being 15 or 16 and basically a clash/jam/truth fan who thought soul began with needle in a haystack and ended with heard it through the grapevine it was fabulously exciting to hear all these new records.

always used to amuse me how johnny sings 'the sun don't come out much any more...etc', basically a tale of heartbreak, with possibly the most upbeat melody and singing style in northern soul :rolleyes:

Bought the green Champion boot about mid 70s & yes a poperoonie but a bloody good one in a Len Barry sorta way. Personally I love it but those tra la las half way through are very cringe worthy :rolleyes: always liked I.O U. as well

The bottom line (for me) is this:

IT WAS GREAT TO DANCE TO!

I always thought is was Ted Massey who first spinned it,not Levine :wave:

What makes you say that. Some history on this statement would be good.!

SHEEP

What makes you say that. Some history on this statement would be good.!

SHEEP

What condition is your stock in.?

SHEEP

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very fond memories of this track. I think it was the first thing I heard when I passed through the casino's doors for the first time on feb 2nd 1975, either that, or the salvadors, or larry santos, or dena barnes... the old memory doesn't serve me very well, alas... has anybody stopped to think about this song's mariachi flavour? there's definitely a tex-mex feel to it... get the old mescal out & give it some!! a clarion call intro too. they seemed to be so important back then... I remember cheryl gray's version being popular at st.ives circa 1977. ginger used to spin it I think. frantic pace, though marred by an over-white vocal in my opinion...

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